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She did? how can you be so sure? could you honestly tell me you haven't heard of similar incidents in the past few years?

But who has ever implied that? what's ethnicity got to do with one's religion, which (alas!) can be very militant, aggressive and destructive. I make no distinction between criminals who kill doctors performing abortions in Alabama (or was it Oklahoma? please don't hold this lack of precision against me) and the ones who slit throats shouting "Allahu Akbar". I don't care if they were Southern Baptist or Sunni or Raelians. But I wouldn't hold that back either, if I were to give my account of what happened. That would simply be "accuracy".

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No, not a fascist. Probably a racist against Muslims (technically I suppose that's a religionist rather than a racist). You sound ill suited to Toronto but there's plenty of Canada where you'd be comfortable. Have you looked at northern Alberta?

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I have not heard of anyone shitting in the Sistine Chapel. I'm not an expert on religious affairs, nor or matters related to sewage, but I would think such an event would have made the papers. Have you documentation for this?

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I think he probably has been to America. According to page 2 of this article he lived in Canada for 6 years - so its not far to travel:

http://www.timeout.com/london/comedy/features/2217.html

I personally don't think PC is a ranter - but I'm not saying I agree with him either. I saw a late night tv show with him on which brought him to my attention. Here's the rest of his vids - see what you make of them:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_video...patcondell&p=r

He obviously has an axe to grind with Catholicism and observations of Islam are very brave bearing in mind what happened to Theo Van Gogh.

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Close, but no - whatever the PC term for a cigar might be these days. I do not like aggressive, in-your-face militants of any kind. I speak Arabic, and have many buddies from Algiers, Morocco, Egypt and Syria. You're probably not going to believe this, but those people dislike their militant fellow Muslims even more than I do. Understandably: I wouldn't like to be viewed as being part of the same group as a churchgoer from Kansas who thinks the world was created in six days and Eye-raq represents a proud page of American history, just because we speak (more or less...) the same language and are both "Christians".

Honestly? Been there, didn't like the city. Physically ugly (not that there weren't nice neighbourhoods, but I didn't like it much overall).

Spot on! If someone criticises the PC God or any of its doctrines du jour, then he must be a redneck with dirt on his trousers. Subtle!

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Neither had she. According to the selected quotes you've posted, she had simply wondered if we weren't to expect such things in the future, after witnessing what she had witnessed (and yes, there is logic here: if a yobo doesn't give a damn about desecrating things, a motivated, militant anything, who hates the symbols of what he perceives as "the enemy", finds great programmatic pleasure in doing so; remember Abu Ghraib, where the GIs urinated on prisoners? you don't think a jihadi would do the same thing (or worse) on their (symbolic) enemy?

And, by the way, there actually exists an historic precedent. An Ottoman sultan (one of the Bayezids, if I'm not mistaken), had sworn that he would conquer Rome and make the Pope's altar (or some other religious artifact, I don't really know what those objects are called) his horse's trough.