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JonboyE Jun 8th 2009 6:03 am

European Elections
 
I did a search on nazi scum but nothing came up.

So, what do we think about our countrymen and women / ex-countrymen and women electing a couple of BNPers to represent the UK in the European Parliament.

Can you imagine it ever happening in Canada.

dbd33 Jun 8th 2009 6:10 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7645770)

Can you imagine it ever happening in Canada.

Sure, Jason Kenney has already been elected.

Almost Canadian Jun 8th 2009 6:19 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7645770)
I did a search on nazi scum but nothing came up.

So, what do we think about our countrymen and women / ex-countrymen and women electing a couple of BNPers to represent the UK in the European Parliament.

Can you imagine it ever happening in Canada.

It's a democracy and the electorate have spoken - what more is there to say?

You may not like their policies but then, by voting for one party, aren't you rejecting the policies of the other parties?

Butch Cassidy Jun 8th 2009 6:20 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7645794)
Sure, Jason Kenney has already been elected.

So was Rob Anders

newshoney Jun 8th 2009 6:24 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7645770)
I did a search on nazi scum but nothing came up.

So, what do we think about our countrymen and women / ex-countrymen and women electing a couple of BNPers to represent the UK in the European Parliament.

Can you imagine it ever happening in Canada.

(a) It's shameful.
(b) Yes.

All it takes is ignorance, moral relativity and unscrupulous politicians manipulating self-interest. Oh and proportional representation distorting the result.

livermanl Jun 8th 2009 6:26 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7645770)
I did a search on nazi scum but nothing came up.

So, what do we think about our countrymen and women / ex-countrymen and women electing a couple of BNPers to represent the UK in the European Parliament.

Can you imagine it ever happening in Canada.

Just before I came over I said it wouldn't be long before the BNP started getting a foothold in the politics of the UK. The recession has only gone and strengthened their campaign.

It's a really sensitive subject and I am not a supporter of the BNP but due to how the UK is run right now it makes sense that they are gaining a lot of voters. Is it good for the Country? Yes I believe it is. Is it good for the Countries representation of itself? Not one bit.

I am personally interested to know your views of the BNP I can take a guess by the way you worded the question that you are not overly keen on them, I support that view but at the same time I really do think that having a balance of government is ultimately more important than having a good majority government.

dbd33 Jun 8th 2009 6:30 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by livermanl (Post 7645840)
Just before I came over I said it wouldn't be long before the BNP started getting a foothold in the politics of the UK. The recession has only gone and strengthened their campaign.

Steady on. It's only a European election and, according to the BBC this morning, they got less votes in the well publicised constituencies than at the last European election. It's just a protest vote, the Canadian parliament still contains more hard right nutters than the British one.

Brownstar Jun 8th 2009 6:31 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by livermanl (Post 7645840)
I am personally interested to know your views of the BNP I can take a guess by the way you worded the question that you are not overly keen on them, I support that view but at the same time I really do think that having a balance of government is ultimately more important than having a good majority government.

Racist scum who are hiding their true identity...........if people really want to support a party that promotes Englishness without voting for a holocaust denier then they should vote for the English Democrats who are still nuts but at least they are not Nazi's.

Personally I don't believe Democracy works as the majority of people do not necessarily follow politics and the policies of the parties they vote for, they either vote for who their parents voted for or vote for 'the other lot' as they become bored with the ruling party.

JonboyE Jun 8th 2009 6:32 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7645794)
Sure, Jason Kenney has already been elected.

As odious an individual Kenney may be, even he might find these a bit over the top:

Nick Griffin

On Race: "Without the White race nothing matters [other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create "Black Britons", while we affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land."

On Nazi leader Adolf Hitler: 'Yes, Adolf went a bit too far. His legacy is the biggest problem that the British nationalist movement has to deal with. It just creates a bad image."

On Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler's autobiography: "At 13, I read Mein Kampf, making notes in the margins… I remember thinking, are the Jews really that bad? The chapter I most enjoyed was the one on propaganda and organisation there are some really useful ideas there."

On democracy: “[BNP voters backed] what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan ‘Defend Rights for Whites’ with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate.”

On the Holocaust:

“I am well aware that the orthodox opinion is that 6 million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lamp shades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat … I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie and latter witch-hysteria. It's well known that the chimneys from the gas chambers at Auschwitz are fake, built after the war ended."

On Sir Oswald Mosley, leader of the British Union of Fascists: "'There is a strong, direct link from Oswald Mosley to me."

On the Soho pub bombings: “The TV footage of dozens of ‘gay’ demonstrators flaunting their perversions in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive.”

On why the two countries that sponsored terrorism should be supported: “Common interest must be turned into practical cooperation. Those involved must work to nail the media lies which are used by our enemies to try to divide us and make us afraid to be seen standing side by side with Third Way nations such as Libya and Iran.”

Almost Canadian Jun 8th 2009 6:40 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by Brownstar (Post 7645852)
Personally I don't believe Democracy works as the majority of people do not necessarily follow politics and the policies of the parties they vote for, they either vote for who their parents voted for or vote for 'the other lot' as they become bored with the ruling party.

So what alternative then?

fledermaus Jun 8th 2009 6:40 am

Re: European Elections
 
Journalist Sarah Ditum writes coherently on the subject- here.

Can it happen here? Yes, it can happen anywhere. Maybe the elections to the EU parliament will stop the complacency that lets this happen, and people will go out and vote in the next general election.

rwin Jun 8th 2009 6:44 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 7645872)
So what alternative then?

Living in North Korea?

newshoney Jun 8th 2009 6:47 am

Re: European Elections
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7645849)
Steady on. It's only a European election and, according to the BBC this morning, they got less votes in the well publicised constituencies than at the last European election. It's just a protest vote, the Canadian parliament still contains more hard right nutters than the British one.

That's the problem - fewer votes but because of the low turnout it resulted in two seats. Personally I am against extremists wherever they fall on the spectrum. I'm not sure the BNP qualifies as 'nazi' but they are appealing to the ignorant underclass who think all their problems can be attributed to 'incomers' of various hues. As for hard-right nutters in Canada - which is the party that says you can only join if you are white?

immichaelcaine Jun 8th 2009 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7645770)
I did a search on nazi scum but nothing came up. . . . Can you imagine it ever happening in Canada.

I was told by Chris Vâ–¬ (workmate) that Harper was once the leader of a particularly nasty fascist-styled party here in Canada. I now believe him after seeing the photographic evidence.

dbd33 Jun 8th 2009 6:50 am

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Originally Posted by newshoney (Post 7645894)
As for hard-right nutters in Canada - which is the party that says you can only join if you are white?

I'm not aware of any such party but I put it to you that two Canadian MPs have been named on this thread who are to the right of anyone in the British parliament.


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