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Pizzawheel Jan 12th 2016 5:05 am

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Originally Posted by Snowy560 (Post 11834353)
Don't know where you got the idea from ?? Not criticizing, just don't know. But both Canada and the UK permit dual citizenship so you don't have to make a choice and can hold a passport from each. It's up to the individual countries concerned as far as I know. I don't think there can be a "world law". So if Canada permitted it and (say) the UK didn't then you would have to make a choice. You can only renounce (e.g. Canadian) citizenship if you are living outside of Canada and you have another citizenship or will get another citizenship when you are no longer Canadian. I'm sure other countries have similar rules so you cannot be stateless through choice.

Countries that don't permit dual: many e.g. India, China, The Netherlands. Germany used to be but I think may have changed in some circumstances. I think you have to get permission (but I'm unsure).

S

It's triple citizenship I'm talking about- but I suspect its just a misunderstanding, where Canada permits dual citizenship what they really mean is they permit multiple citizenships. We'll find out in 8 years when mini-wheel hits adulthood at 18!

TrishP Jan 12th 2016 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by Pizzawheel (Post 11834346)
Yes, passports. My previous understanding was you were allowed to be a dual national but not, officially, any more. I don't know where I got that from. Under 18s are allowed as many nationalities as they can acrue, but have to cut to two at 18. (so the little wheels who currently have three would cut to two at 18).

But then I was thinking- who does the allowing? Some few countries do not permit dual nationality, but those that do can't have much say in other countries giving citizenship, especially when they're so many countries operating far more informally.

Wondering if anyone else might have any idea where I got my two-only idea from?



I have triple!

Pizzawheel Jan 12th 2016 9:32 am

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*Calls Interpol*

BritInParis Jan 12th 2016 10:21 am

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Already made plans to ensure any future BIP Jr. has at least three at birth.

Novocastrian Jan 12th 2016 7:57 pm

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Originally Posted by TrishP (Post 11835473)
I have triple!

So does my eldest son. I think it is MarylandNed or one of his family who has quadruple.

beckiwoo Jan 13th 2016 2:21 am

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11835591)
Already made plans to ensure any future BIP Jr. has at least three at birth.

Surely more than one is good enough.

JamesM Jan 13th 2016 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11835912)
So does my eldest son. I think it is MarylandNed or one of his family who has quadruple.

Yes Maryland Ned!

Paul_Shepherd Jan 13th 2016 5:14 am

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Originally Posted by orly (Post 11835195)
As I'm from Northern Ireland I don't think I can apply online. Pretty sure I can still register but I'm a bit on the fence as to whether it's ethical for me to vote when I'm not living in the UK and have no plans to in the future.

If I do decide to register I'd vote to leave the EU.

I can see where you are coming from with the ethical viewpoint on this vote, with us not living in the UK anymore.

However I feel this is an important decision whichever way one votes, and will significantly effect the future of the UK. Although i have no foreseeable plans to live there at present, (I feel Canada suits me better), these priorities could change caused by something i cant yet foresee, so I think its important I have a say in its future which could possibly become my own future again.

After all i have spent the majority of my life there, so I wont rule out living there again, for that reason I will definitely be voting..

BritInParis Jan 13th 2016 7:36 am

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 11836164)
Surely more than one is good enough.

Five would be better but my other half is far too broody to arrange all that in time.

beckiwoo Jan 13th 2016 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11836453)
Five would be better but my other half is far too broody to arrange all that in time.

and expensive when it comes to renewing all the passports. I only have one to deal with right now. Two would be ideal. Three or more - a nightmare

BritInParis Jan 13th 2016 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 11836476)
and expensive when it comes to renewing all the passports. I only have one to deal with right now. Two would be ideal. Three or more - a nightmare

Perhaps but a lot less expense and hassle than obtaining these citizenships later in life through migration and naturalisation.

Novocastrian Jan 13th 2016 9:16 am

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Originally Posted by beckiwoo (Post 11836476)
and expensive when it comes to renewing all the passports. I only have one to deal with right now. Two would be ideal. Three or more - a nightmare

Sometimes you don't have a choice. My eldest son has UK citizenship by descent and became a naturalized citizen of Canada about 11 years ago when we did.

That may well be enough, but he happened to be born in California about 6 weeks before we left the USA in 1982 and is therefore a USC as well. He is forced by US law to have a US passport when entering the US, which he has to do on business.

Bloody daft really.

orly Jan 13th 2016 11:01 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11836599)
Sometimes you don't have a choice. My eldest son has UK citizenship by descent and became a naturalized citizen of Canada about 11 years ago when we did.

That may well be enough, but he happened to be born in California about 6 weeks before we left the USA in 1982 and is therefore a USC as well. He is forced by US law to have a US passport when entering the US, which he has to do on business.

Bloody daft really.

Take it he has to file taxes and such like too?

Possibility my wife may end up working in the US in the future and we may end up living there. I've already hinted it would be advisable to make sure any future sprogs are fired out while in Windsor, ON for example.

bc2015 Jan 13th 2016 11:06 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11836599)
Sometimes you don't have a choice. My eldest son has UK citizenship by descent and became a naturalized citizen of Canada about 11 years ago when we did.

That may well be enough, but he happened to be born in California about 6 weeks before we left the USA in 1982 and is therefore a USC as well. He is forced by US law to have a US passport when entering the US, which he has to do on business.

Bloody daft really.

Could he not just renouce his US citizenship?

jimf Jan 13th 2016 12:24 pm

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