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Old Jul 9th 2010 | 4:55 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
John Fardell did the best stuff in viz (Modern parents and the critics were my favourites).
I forgot about the Critics. I think that may have been the first time I saw the word 'Juxtaposition' used. For a while my friends and I would try to get it into a sentence whenever possible. It made us sound like incredible knobs.
 
Old Jul 9th 2010 | 4:56 am
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Agreed. But the study is suggesting that any parent, regardless of their level of education can make a positive impact on their child's education by promoting reading in the home. Of course the likelihood of this is probably far lower amongst the lesser educated parents.
And we know this too. It's not a shocker.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Which leads to problems of causation vs correlation. Though I'm sure the people doing the stats on this kind of thing know how to factor that out.
Yes the old Correlation vs Causation chestnut. I haven't read the studies well enough to know if established any actual causation. But as you say, the boffins doing the study should have factored all of that in the report.
 
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And we know this too. It's not a shocker.
Doesn't the outcome of most of these studies just confirm what common sense already suggests.
 
Old Jul 9th 2010 | 5:02 am
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Yes the old Correlation vs Causation chestnut. I haven't read the studies well enough to know if established any actual causation. But as you say, the boffins doing the study should have factored all of that in the report.
There's little to no evidence of causation in any social science research. What one must guard against is enticing but spurious correlations.
 
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Originally Posted by John_B
Doesn't the outcome of most of these studies just confirm what common sense already suggests.
Probably. But it's useful to prove what are 'obvious facts', and you always get the occasional counter-intuitive result.
 
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Originally Posted by John_B
Doesn't the outcome of most of these studies just confirm what common sense already suggests.
Common sense suggests that common sense is a load of bollox and is mostly a concept used to justify opinions that are not supported by research.
 
Old Jul 9th 2010 | 5:29 am
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Old Jul 9th 2010 | 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Irony eh? Do reactionary rants about liberals and "doo gooders" get counted as that now-a-days?
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Common sense suggests that common sense is a load of bollox and is mostly a concept used to justify opinions that are not supported by research.
The problem with common sense is that it isn't common enough!
 
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Originally Posted by Yelkcub
The problem with common sense is that it isn't common enough!
It's been re-named rare sense haven't you heard?
 
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Originally Posted by Yelkcub
The problem with common sense is that it isn't common enough!
You seem to have loads of it.
 
Old Jul 9th 2010 | 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
You seem to have loads of it.
Now that's using your commonsense! Thanks for the compliment!
 
Old Jul 9th 2010 | 5:39 am
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Originally Posted by Yelkcub
Thanks for the compliment!
I thought you understood irony. Ah, that's only when it's explained to you.
 
Old Jul 9th 2010 | 5:43 am
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Ah, but that's steely.
 


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