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John_B Jul 9th 2010 4:55 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8689475)
John Fardell did the best stuff in viz (Modern parents and the critics were my favourites).
I forgot about the Critics. I think that may have been the first time I saw the word 'Juxtaposition' used. For a while my friends and I would try to get it into a sentence whenever possible. It made us sound like incredible knobs.

Oink Jul 9th 2010 4:56 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by John_B (Post 8689477)
Agreed. But the study is suggesting that any parent, regardless of their level of education can make a positive impact on their child's education by promoting reading in the home. Of course the likelihood of this is probably far lower amongst the lesser educated parents.
And we know this too. It's not a shocker.

John_B Jul 9th 2010 4:59 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8689484)
Which leads to problems of causation vs correlation. Though I'm sure the people doing the stats on this kind of thing know how to factor that out.
Yes the old Correlation vs Causation chestnut. I haven't read the studies well enough to know if established any actual causation. But as you say, the boffins doing the study should have factored all of that in the report.

John_B Jul 9th 2010 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8689500)
And we know this too. It's not a shocker.
Doesn't the outcome of most of these studies just confirm what common sense already suggests.

Oink Jul 9th 2010 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by John_B (Post 8689510)
Yes the old Correlation vs Causation chestnut. I haven't read the studies well enough to know if established any actual causation. But as you say, the boffins doing the study should have factored all of that in the report.
There's little to no evidence of causation in any social science research. What one must guard against is enticing but spurious correlations.

Alan2005 Jul 9th 2010 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by John_B (Post 8689514)
Doesn't the outcome of most of these studies just confirm what common sense already suggests.
Probably. But it's useful to prove what are 'obvious facts', and you always get the occasional counter-intuitive result.

Oink Jul 9th 2010 5:05 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by John_B (Post 8689514)
Doesn't the outcome of most of these studies just confirm what common sense already suggests.
Common sense suggests that common sense is a load of bollox and is mostly a concept used to justify opinions that are not supported by research.

dthomas Jul 9th 2010 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 8689420)
Ahem. I think we have a glass house/stone interface situation.

<and a coat moment>
lawlz no miztake homeslice :shades_smile: waz tryin 2 ryde onna coattailz ov de preeveooz IRE-ON-EE talkin :tounge_smile: i isnt no playa tho............................. chew wit dis 1:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lazyness

Yelkcub Jul 9th 2010 5:32 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8689410)
Irony eh? Do reactionary rants about liberals and "doo gooders" get counted as that now-a-days?
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8689526)
Common sense suggests that common sense is a load of bollox and is mostly a concept used to justify opinions that are not supported by research.
The problem with common sense is that it isn't common enough!

Steve_P Jul 9th 2010 5:35 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8689591)
The problem with common sense is that it isn't common enough!
It's been re-named rare sense haven't you heard? ;)

Alan2005 Jul 9th 2010 5:36 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8689591)
The problem with common sense is that it isn't common enough!
You seem to have loads of it.

Yelkcub Jul 9th 2010 5:38 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8689604)
You seem to have loads of it.
Now that's using your commonsense! Thanks for the compliment! :rofl:

Alan2005 Jul 9th 2010 5:39 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8689606)
Thanks for the compliment! :rofl:
I thought you understood irony. Ah, that's only when it's explained to you.

dthomas Jul 9th 2010 5:43 am
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http://www.raj-enterprises.in/full-images/688086.jpg

Alan2005 Jul 9th 2010 5:45 am
Re: English Spelling
 
Originally Posted by dthomas (Post 8689618)
Ah, but that's steely.


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