https://www.ec.gc.ca/eau-water/defau...n&n=F77856A7-1

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/wate.../index-eng.php

I think it's true. According to these we have "guidelines" which are not the same as standards. Are they? Guidelines seem a bit softer than standards. Am I making sense, it's been a long day and my kid is doing the highland reel right by my ear

Trying to make sense of the Rosebud situation. Based on the above, there don't seem to be any restrictions or consequences imposed if the water breaches the guideline. Nevertheless, it's hard to believe that Environment Canada would be so relaxed about health issues. There must be some teeth in some legislation somewhere?

I think Fracking was allowed to go wild and there didn't seem to be much regulation.

I don't know about regulation of fracking now.

I do know that Alberta Environment regulate in the Oilsands and its part of the permissions with annual monitoring etc. There are very large controls on process affected water migrating off site via surface water or via groundwater but I do think air pollution has potential to pollute water courses, this has been proven through studies of snow.

I read a book called 'Stupid to the last drop'. Its a worthwhile read , it had a lot on the Rosebud situation, which as I said earlier is tragic.

Quite. Any electronic gizmo that any of us owns probably contains material that was produced under rather unpleasant circumstances. Things like slavery, child-rape and wholesale massacre are trivial compared to the odd deformed fish or water that smells a bit.

Thanks. Just listened to the author on YT video.

the problem is that we rely on this planet to live. if we screw up the food chain that's not very smart. or the water we drink and the air we breathe.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...tion-1.1152629

Basically groundwater contamination around fracking is largely paranoia, the well is way, way deeper than the water table.

Yes, if you screw it up then you can have problems, just as you can with any industrial operation, but it is regulated and Alberta's regulations are apparently among the strictest.

Knock yourself out: http://albertacanada.com/business/in...gulations.aspx

http://aer.ca/rules-and-regulations/acts-and-rules

The CBC article you cite doesn't support your assertion on paranoia.

Well yes it does because they say they're "worried" but then they quote the ERCB explaining why they shouldn't be.

Well it's been around for a very long time.

In this particular case, the ERCB is suggesting that the fracking will not cause problems, but it's fairly clear from the rest of article, the poll, and history that fracking can and does cause contamination. In which case you can hardly assert that people are being "paranoid" in having concerns.

btw thanks for changing my thread title Souxie

At work yesterday they were talking about there being 20 years worth of work remediating/decommissioning the mines that are coming to the end of the lifecycle. One example has been capped already. In principle its no different from mine sites all over Canada and the rest of the world.

No I was talking to a friend with cancer and it was something she had found out sorry. Also have a look at the documentary called Gasland?

oh that's terrible

Ok, will check it out. Cheers.

Just got back from a frac in Saskatchewan yesterday... The media and the people protesting against it really have no idea and are just protesting through ignorance.

If people think fracking is bad, then there are far worse things going on in Canada which they should focus their attention on - any type of mining is far, far worse for the environment. Once a frac is completed all that's left is a small hole in the ground. As others have stated all the talk of gas seepage is pretty much pure BS - does anyone have any hard evidence of this in Canada? 100% of the 'evidence' I have seen is entirely anecdotal and almost certainly coincidental/made up.

TBH I think half the reason most people are against it is because it has a nasty sounding name.