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peas May 27th 2011 3:54 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by arniedog (Post 9391801)
really ? Where was that

Wivenhoe. :wub:

arniedog May 27th 2011 3:59 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by peas (Post 9391810)
Wivenhoe. :wub:

i live in brightlingsea

peas May 27th 2011 4:07 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by arniedog (Post 9391819)
i live in brightlingsea


I only went there once but I thought Brightlingsea was cute. :)

...though I did have a near panic attack after I climbed the tower bit of that All Saints Church and when I realised I had to climb down. :scaredhair:

gryphea May 27th 2011 4:09 am

Re: Crime in your area
 
I think yobby and crime are too different things

We didn't live in a yobby area and had no problems with drunken youths (more like the drunken adults we had invited round) so its certainly not a problem everywhere (plus none of my UK friends scattered round the country) have these problems either), I am with Jings on this, BUT we did have issues with crime. I won't call them problems and my area was certainly not crime ridden; certainly not enough to make me move.

arniedog May 27th 2011 4:09 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9391805)
Well, I am and I'm not, but what does it actually matter where I live in the UK? There are yobby bits and there are not-yobby bits. I happen to live in a not-yobby bit.

However, if I did live in a yobby bit and wanted to live in a not-yobby bit, I wouldn't necessarily decide that I'd be best off moving to Canada - as you seemed to imply.

ive reread my posts and i Cant see where i implied that i want to move to Canada because of yobs ! Im not stupid i know there are yobs where ever you live in the world i was just pointing out what its like where i live . Im hopefully moving to Canada for many reasons and fingers crossed it will work for me and mine .

Almost Canadian May 27th 2011 5:13 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by gryphea (Post 9391619)
Just like everything south of the Bow is shite?;)

I don't believe I have ever said that;)


Originally Posted by gryphea (Post 9391622)
Should just say the guy who had been stabbed grazing his heart. That was in Kings, London, which is the South

I bet the one doing the stabbing was either born north of the Watford Gap, had lived north of the Watford Gap, or knew people that lived north of the Watford Gap:rofl:

el_richo May 27th 2011 5:13 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by arniedog (Post 9391850)
ive reread my posts and i Cant see where i implied that i want to move to Canada because of yobs.

The quote below implies that you're moving because you're fed up of sweeping glass and hearing the noise from yobs every weekend.

I also think the issue people have with your comment is the part i highlighted. That's probably because it's bullshit ;)


Originally Posted by arniedog (Post 9391850)
When you get up on sat or sun morning and have to sweep up smashed bottles from the lane before you can move your car or have to listen to the shouting and swearing all night from the drunken yobs it does make you think about finding somewhere else to live but the prob does seem to be almost everywhere in the UK


BristolUK May 27th 2011 8:27 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9391805)
However, if I did live in a yobby bit and wanted to live in a not-yobby bit, I wouldn't necessarily decide that I'd be best off moving to Canada - as you seemed to imply.

This is often mentioned and at first it does sound silly. But.....

I'm in Canada by the fluke of meeting and marrying a Canadian. I was perfectly happy with where I lived. But let's suppose I was fed up of where I was or of Bristol itself and wanted to move somewhere better.

In 2005, I was left with £120k after selling my 2 bed, terraced house. Here, my much better, newer, air conditioned, bigger, detached house, cost £56k. I'm not sure I could have done that in the UK. :unsure: Would it have got me somewhere in the posh part of Bristol? Or The Cotswolds? I think not.

This does back up the earlier point someone made about people living in nicer areas. Even people with limited -;) - resources can do that over here. But there's nowhere in Moncton that's not much nicer than a lot of Bristol. I'd say the worst part is on a par with where I was. I imagine something similar is true of many of the smaller cities/communities in Canada and moving to less yobby places might just be more feasible in Canada than within England - immigration, jobs etc allowing. ;)

Furthermore as a result of previous crime level debates, I did a comparison between Bristol and Moncton a couple of years ago. Violent crime, burglary and car theft rates (the sort of crime likely to be of more concern) in Bristol were 40 to 50 times higher than Moncton. :eek:

It's no wonder I see cars parked here with windows open, sometimes with keys left in the ignition and a lost and found section in the paper featuring keys, wallets and glasses because people do try to get them to their rightful owners. The perception of low crime here is backed by the reality of it.:)



Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9391969)
I also think the issue people have with your comment (that it's everywhere)

is taken too literally.

I think, in this context, it simply means North, South, East and West; In town/out of town; Council Estate/Bedsit land; Deprived area/modern housing estate etc etc. It doesn't literally mean you turn away from a mugging only to see another one around the corner.

Oink May 27th 2011 8:48 am

Re: Crime in your area
 
I got mugged the other day as popped into a local hotel bar for pint and they charged me $10. Thieving bastards. :frown:

el_richo May 27th 2011 8:52 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9392212)
Furthermore as a result of previous crime level debates, I did a comparison between Bristol and Moncton a couple of years ago.

And when comparing Moncton to Wetwang in Yorkshire i'll bet the crime rate is higher in the former ;)




Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9392212)
is taken too literally.

I think, in this context, it simply means North, South, East and West; In town/out of town; Council Estate/Bedsit land; Deprived area/modern housing estate etc etc. It doesn't literally mean you turn away from a mugging only to see another one around the corner.

And you believe this?

Alan2005 May 27th 2011 8:52 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9392212)
is taken too literally.

I think, in this context, it simply means North, South, East and West; In town/out of town; Council Estate/Bedsit land; Deprived area/modern housing estate etc etc. It doesn't literally mean you turn away from a mugging only to see another one around the corner.

Nobody takes everywhere that literally, so what's your point?:confused:

Alan2005 May 27th 2011 8:57 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9392250)
I got mugged the other day as popped into a local hotel bar for pint and they charged me $10. Thieving bastards. :frown:

$10?! Jeez, that's over £6. I hope it was worth it.

el_richo May 27th 2011 8:59 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9392212)
I think, in this context, it simply means North, South, East and West; In town/out of town; Council Estate/Bedsit land; Deprived area/modern housing estate etc etc. It doesn't literally mean you turn away from a mugging only to see another one around the corner.


Originally Posted by arniedog (Post 9391850)
When you get up on sat or sun morning and have to sweep up smashed bottles from the lane before you can move your car or have to listen to the shouting and swearing all night from the drunken yobs it does make you think about finding somewhere else to live but the prob does seem to be almost everywhere in the UK.

So Bristol, do you agree with arniedog with regards to this quote? In what context do you believe this is meant?

Almost Canadian May 27th 2011 9:14 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9392212)
In 2005, I was left with £120k after selling my 2 bed, terraced house. Here, my much better, newer, air conditioned, bigger, detached house, cost £56k. I'm not sure I could have done that in the UK. :unsure: Would it have got me somewhere in the posh part of Bristol? Or The Cotswolds? I think not.

I bet you could have bought somewhere in the Outer Hebrides or some parts of Southern Ireland for that amount.

You moved from a desirable part of a country with highly priced real estate, to a part of a Province with real estate with a low value. The size, to be honest, is irrelevant. How much land would you have been able to buy in Nunavut or the Yukon? How much would your current palace have cost had in been in downtown Vancouver or Toronto. You is comparing apples with oranges.

BristolUK May 27th 2011 9:18 am

Re: Crime in your area
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9392259)
And when comparing Moncton to Wetwang in Yorkshire i'll bet the crime rate is higher in the former ;)

Not so sure. With a population of 672 (if wiki is anything to go by) just one or two crimes probably give a higher rate. :rofl:


Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9392262)
Nobody takes everywhere that literally, so what's your point?:confused:

Don't they? Wasn't that a rather strong response to the comment of it being everywhere in the UK if nobody took it so literally?;)


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