COVID is making me hate Canada
 

Honestly, the amount of misinformation, lies and garbage shared on Facebook by Canadians about the COVID vaccine is making me sick.

People share news from fake news sites, chastise others for vaccinating their kids (“oh those poor babies!”) bring up unverifiable data points like VAERS and overall the attitude is childish spoilt and bratty. Basically finding any excuse to not do their part and get vaccinated.

The worst seems to be people from rural or suburban areas. It’s like the suburbs turn people into adult children. Not just in this case either but whining about all sorts of things.

I know it’s not all Canadians but it’s sickening seeing other countries that have more of a social/collective conscience getting it dealt with while individualistic selfish Canada people just chant “my rights!” while this nightmare pandemic drags on.

Apologies for the rant, but man, it’s super frustrating. We’re going to need booster shots every year if this carries on.

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Are you sure they are Canadians that are doing this? We see it here in NZ too, every news article and pro-vax posts are being bombarded by more than a reasonable share of this nonsense in comments; Facebook and other Social media platforms have been inundated with orchestrated attacks and floods of posts from anti-vax 'influencers'.

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Same in France, weekly marches against the 'vax passports' over here. So seems it is a common thread now days.

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It’s everywhere, not just specific to Canada. I think in general Canada is pretty good for vaccine uptake. I do live in a white rural enclave in Ontario, and I think there is a feeling that COVID isn’t that bad, mainly because it hasn’t impacted us much. Although the reason that it hasn’t impacted us much seems lost on people..

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Same sh1t everywhere. Definitely in the UK. Maybe we also get more anti-vaxer sentiment bleeding across from the US. Best is to ignore it/don't engage.

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That's good advice generally. Alas, I recently discovered that a someone I work with isn't vaccinated (she was unable to attend a corporate event) and now I a) question her judgement in other areas and b) assume she's on borrowed time in her position and is to be worked around. It's the same feeling I had with colleagues who were charged with serious criminal offences or became religious to the point of no longer speaking to women in the workplace; clock ticking for them. Not getting vaccinated is an extreme anti-team position, I don't see how an employer can live with that even if there's a technical legal loophole allowing it.

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It is a dilemma for certain. I'll accept those that cannot be vaxed but have little interest in those that will not. It's not been a problem at work thus far but I have deleted connections off LI who have espoused/promoted antivaxer views. If you wont do a) whats right for you as an individual and b) what's right for society as a whole and you are unswayed by science but swayed by facebook and you auntie Beryl, then perhaps your judgement in matters of business is less than sound,

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Same here in the US. I have to live with a man, who is also Canadian, who refuses to the vaccine and will pontificate about the medical hazards of it and government conspiracy involved. And it isn't just him. My son-in-law is not vaccinated and he will not allow the kids to be vaccinated. A good friend is so vocal about her anti-vax theories that she's been banned from FB. And these are just personal experiences.

And yes, I have been fully vaccinated and will get the booster when available. I can think for myself.

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Quite. The world isn't short of accountants, the way that business seems to go is that big firms are always shedding new ones who've done their five years of post-university slog and now want a living wage. They're highly replaceable, so it's an odd trade for boat rocking.

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Well we will have to see if the Provinces will stick to their guns or keep extending deadlines to get vaxxed. Quebec has already extended their date for healthcare and social workers.

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I suppose one kind of accepts it on Facebook - not that I go there - although FB says they try to do something about it. But it's other places that annoy me.

On the CBC site at the end of each update, you can look over the comments and while they're not full of rabidly anti-vax comments there's a lot of no worse than flu, this year's flu, natural immunity better than vaccine, they are not vaccines, masks do nothing and so on.

People will mention a study for example that contrasted a masked mandated area with a non mask mandated area to show that Covid cases were little different. But it turns out that research has long been scrapped because at the time there was so little covid about in those areas that people could have been breathing all over each other without it making a difference.

Or you'd read that Professor someonerother has found whatever the claim is with an instruction to google it.
So I've googled it and that is indeed the claim going around under that name. But then you notice the name is wrong. Someone hasn't done "their own" research on it after all, they've simply read something - probably on FB - and they've done a copy/paste, including getting the name wrong, and just spread it aroud on their own account or blogged it somewhere else.

The second thing is that Professor correctname is already on record saying that was not his conclusion at all.

Now I find out with a bit of simple googling in a minute or so that this is misinformation. After a couple of days you see the same old familiar names making the same sorts of comments. I really don't see why someone at CBC isn't checking themselves - there is a reporting system - and not warning the culprit, removing the comments or identifying them as false and ultimately blocking the poster of those comments.

If the comments were identified as false, other readers on the site could see that and not only discover the truth without putting their own effort in but they could also see who the liars were and pay them no attention the next time they claim something.

In a perfect world the host of such comments could advise people to double check and be wary of claims made that are only sourced on social media.

It's really not much different to warnings about email/telephone scams.

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I know it’s not all Canadians but it’s sickening seeing other countries that have more of a social/collective conscience getting it dealt with while individualistic selfish Canada people just chant “my rights!” while this nightmare pandemic drags on.


Try living in Italy right now when protests are all over because we have a Green Pass. First it was Green Pass to get into inside places likes bars and restaurants ...... now it's' about keeping your job open and getting suspended from work.

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I got vaccinated to get the green pass to travel and go about my life...I don't think covid is as bad as "they" say, and clearly given Ontario's numbers the vaccine is not as effective as claimed. I support the vaccine but clearly it is not a fix-all solution, and I don't agree with it being mandated. People should have the right to choose. I chose to get vaccinated but I support people's choice to not get vaccinated also.

People can whine about how it's not a mandate but if people are being threatened with losing their jobs, and therefore their livelihood, if they do not get it then to me that is a mandate / use of force.

As said, anti-vax people are everywhere, not just Canada. If random people's opinions are making you hate a country then you should really re-evaluate your priorities. I have people in my life who are not vaccinated and it has no bearing on whether I hang out with them or associate with them. I really just don't care. Get vaccinated, don't get vaccinated...it doesn't affect me. I have my opinions and hunches but i'm not really qualified to say what is and isn't, and I don't really care to research the piss out of it. Keep calm and carry on and all that. And besides, I don't think it is mine or anyone else's business to ask people whether they are vaccinated or not. It's private information.

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An argument referencing "They" is on par with "do your own research, sheeple".I won't engage with you on your position except to say the the selfishness and ignorance is at least outweighed by your decision to get vaccinated. I do agree that antivax opinions are no reason to hate a country through.

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There are people worldwide spouting the same.. it's not only in Canada.