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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
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Revin Kevin Jan 18th 2021 6:42 am
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12960671)
Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105
That BBC report says Cambodia has zero cases of covid out of a population of 16 million - surely can't be right🤔

BristolUK Jan 18th 2021 6:43 am
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12960669)
UK currently has highest daily death rate per person in world :eek:
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12960671)
Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.
I can't speak for everyone but I think I can only die once.
I'm trying not to find out yet though. :lol:

Danny B Jan 18th 2021 6:53 am
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12960720)
That BBC report says Cambodia has zero cases of covid out of a population of 16 million - surely can't be right🤔
Thailand did it right, those stats are absolutely amazing considering their population.

Shard Jan 18th 2021 9:53 am
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12960726)
Thailand did it right, those stats are absolutely amazing considering their population.
Indeed. It's a virus elimination strategy (zero tolerance) rather than a virus control strategy. Even China has frankly done a far better job of handling the virus than many Western countries. The issue seems to be that they treated it like a SARS virus (which they experience before) whereas Western countries assumed it was a flu-like virus. Also, Trump didn't help, he introduced so much doubt and disorder into the debate, that virus was able to establish itself strongly in the US and countries that take note of the US (Canada, UK). Australia has done fairly well too.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 18th 2021 11:14 am
Re: Coronavirus
 
So how did it boom in Italy, Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal etc?

Shard Jan 18th 2021 11:35 am
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12960824)
So how did it boom in Italy, Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal etc?
Transmission between individuals who are not taking adequate precautions or keeping social distance. Not rocket science.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 18th 2021 4:07 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12960830)
Transmission between individuals who are not taking adequate precautions or keeping social distance. Not rocket science.

scrubbedexpat142 Jan 18th 2021 8:56 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12960671)
Not according to the BBC data, which uses Johns Hopkins as its source. It's near the top though.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105
Just wait until the data comes in tonight & tomorrow, picking up the weekend's missing data.

scrubbedexpat142 Jan 18th 2021 9:02 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
Deaths per million, whole pandemic -

UK: 1341
US: 1212
EU27/EEA: 892

scrubbedexpat142 Jan 18th 2021 9:19 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
CNN also use John Hopkins data, which is often different to the CDC data which is different to the Worldometer data...

UK data is within 28 days of positive test, ie up to 23:59 on D28, should you die 2 minutes later at 00:01 on D29, tough, and if your D28 falls on a weekend equally tough.

Which is why I am a tad cynical about the vaccination rate (but hope to be wrong).

scrubbedexpat142 Jan 18th 2021 9:36 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
USA data, this morning -

Worldometer: 24,626,441 & 408,623

CNN (JHU): 24,078,593 & 399,003

NYT: 24,126,100 & 399,052

I use the latter's data.

Shard Jan 18th 2021 10:11 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12960958)
USA data, this morning -

Worldometer: 24,626,441 & 408,623

CNN (JHU): 24,078,593 & 399,003

NYT: 24,126,100 & 399,052

I use the latter's data.
US infectons/deaths ?

scrubbedexpat142 Jan 18th 2021 10:12 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12960969)
US infectons/deaths ?
Sorry, yes.

Shard Jan 18th 2021 10:23 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12960950)
Deaths per million, whole pandemic -

UK: 1341
US: 1212
EU27/EEA: 892
It's shockingly bad performance (UK). We tend to regard the US as having a more chaotic and ineffective pandemic response, but the stats pain a very differnt picture. Amazingly, the UK media does not dwell on it.

Jingsamichty Jan 18th 2021 10:28 pm
Re: Coronavirus
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12960974)
It's shockingly bad performance (UK). We tend to regard the US as having a more chaotic and ineffective pandemic response, but the stats pain a very differnt picture. Amazingly, the UK media does not dwell on it.
Nothing amazing about it. Most of the UK media views any serious criticism of a Tory government as an act of Marxist insurrection.


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