Coronavirus
#2296
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Re: Coronavirus
A comparison with Montreal and Toronto is interesting. Montreal's population is about two-thirds that of Toronto.
For population density per km2 Montreal is 3,889 and Toronto 4,334.
Montreal has a slightly smaller population density but has over 28,000 cases as opposed to Toronto's 15,000.
Is a crowded subway to blame? According to wiki, Toronto subway ridership is 1.58m while Montreal's is 1.367m. So even with that Montreal's figure is lower.
What are the reasons for Montreal having nearly twice as many cases?
For population density per km2 Montreal is 3,889 and Toronto 4,334.
Montreal has a slightly smaller population density but has over 28,000 cases as opposed to Toronto's 15,000.
Is a crowded subway to blame? According to wiki, Toronto subway ridership is 1.58m while Montreal's is 1.367m. So even with that Montreal's figure is lower.
What are the reasons for Montreal having nearly twice as many cases?
https://www.amtrak.com/adirondack-train
#2297
#2298
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Re: Coronavirus
I believe Quebec also had their spring break earlier than many parts of Canada just before NY and other places went down the tubes, and saw a fair amount of young people travelling for spring break to places like Florida. I imagine college age students who travelled on spring break also brought back the virus.
By the time spring break for example happened in BC, things were better known, restrictions in place, and non-essential travel discouraged and the border restricted etc etc, so nobody really was able to travel for spring break.
By the time spring break for example happened in BC, things were better known, restrictions in place, and non-essential travel discouraged and the border restricted etc etc, so nobody really was able to travel for spring break.
#2299
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Re: Coronavirus
81 new cases over the weekend, 81 over a 3 day period.
A community outbreak has been declared in Abbotsford at Fraser Valley Packing which pack blueberries, 15 have tested positive so far.
BC at a turning point, residents asked to pull back on social interactions and recommit to social distancing.
Haida Gwaii now up to 14 cases all linked to residents and off island travel. (there were some talk last week it was tourists but appears it was residents leaving the island and returning)
Outbreak in Kelowna continues to grow, cases linked to Kelowna up to 86, over 1,000 people in self isolation province wide.
Okanagan has had 107 positive tests between July 10 and July 23.
During the same period, 58 people were diagnosed south of the Fraser River, 49 in Vancouver and four in Richmond.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-27-1.5663897
Seems this area in Kelowna and related is the hot spot.
A community outbreak has been declared in Abbotsford at Fraser Valley Packing which pack blueberries, 15 have tested positive so far.
BC at a turning point, residents asked to pull back on social interactions and recommit to social distancing.
Haida Gwaii now up to 14 cases all linked to residents and off island travel. (there were some talk last week it was tourists but appears it was residents leaving the island and returning)
Outbreak in Kelowna continues to grow, cases linked to Kelowna up to 86, over 1,000 people in self isolation province wide.
Okanagan has had 107 positive tests between July 10 and July 23.
During the same period, 58 people were diagnosed south of the Fraser River, 49 in Vancouver and four in Richmond.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-27-1.5663897
Seems this area in Kelowna and related is the hot spot.
#2300
Re: Coronavirus
81 new cases over the weekend, 81 over a 3 day period.
A community outbreak has been declared in Abbotsford at Fraser Valley Packing which pack blueberries, 15 have tested positive so far.
BC at a turning point, residents asked to pull back on social interactions and recommit to social distancing.
Haida Gwaii now up to 14 cases all linked to residents and off island travel. (there were some talk last week it was tourists but appears it was residents leaving the island and returning)
Outbreak in Kelowna continues to grow, cases linked to Kelowna up to 86, over 1,000 people in self isolation province wide.
Okanagan has had 107 positive tests between July 10 and July 23.
During the same period, 58 people were diagnosed south of the Fraser River, 49 in Vancouver and four in Richmond.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-27-1.5663897
Seems this area in Kelowna and related is the hot spot.
A community outbreak has been declared in Abbotsford at Fraser Valley Packing which pack blueberries, 15 have tested positive so far.
BC at a turning point, residents asked to pull back on social interactions and recommit to social distancing.
Haida Gwaii now up to 14 cases all linked to residents and off island travel. (there were some talk last week it was tourists but appears it was residents leaving the island and returning)
Outbreak in Kelowna continues to grow, cases linked to Kelowna up to 86, over 1,000 people in self isolation province wide.
Okanagan has had 107 positive tests between July 10 and July 23.
During the same period, 58 people were diagnosed south of the Fraser River, 49 in Vancouver and four in Richmond.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-27-1.5663897
Seems this area in Kelowna and related is the hot spot.
It is clearly difficult to keep people's attention when the numbers are low and people think there is "no risk", so they refuse to take the pandemic seriously, drop their guard, (if it was ever in fact "up" ) and, well, then all this happens. ^
#2301
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Re: Coronavirus
Additional exposures linked to flights.
Aero Mexico 696 Mexico City to Vancouver on July 15 and 17
Air Canada 111 Toronto to Vancouver on July 13
Air Canada 8073 Vancouver to Victoria July 13
Air Canada 311 Montreal to Vancouver July 13
Aero Mexico 696 Mexico City to Vancouver on July 15 and 17
Air Canada 111 Toronto to Vancouver on July 13
Air Canada 8073 Vancouver to Victoria July 13
Air Canada 311 Montreal to Vancouver July 13
#2302
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Re: Coronavirus
I'm sorry to hear that, but really not at all surprised.
It is clearly difficult to keep people's attention when the numbers are low and people think there is "no risk", so they refuse to take the pandemic seriously, drop their guard, (if it was ever in fact "up" ) and, well, then all this happens. ^
It is clearly difficult to keep people's attention when the numbers are low and people think there is "no risk", so they refuse to take the pandemic seriously, drop their guard, (if it was ever in fact "up" ) and, well, then all this happens. ^
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#2303
#2304
Re: Coronavirus
81 new cases over the weekend, 81 over a 3 day period.
A community outbreak has been declared in Abbotsford at Fraser Valley Packing which pack blueberries, 15 have tested positive so far.
BC at a turning point, residents asked to pull back on social interactions and recommit to social distancing.
Haida Gwaii now up to 14 cases all linked to residents and off island travel. (there were some talk last week it was tourists but appears it was residents leaving the island and returning)
Outbreak in Kelowna continues to grow, cases linked to Kelowna up to 86, over 1,000 people in self isolation province wide.
Okanagan has had 107 positive tests between July 10 and July 23.
During the same period, 58 people were diagnosed south of the Fraser River, 49 in Vancouver and four in Richmond.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-27-1.5663897
Seems this area in Kelowna and related is the hot spot.
A community outbreak has been declared in Abbotsford at Fraser Valley Packing which pack blueberries, 15 have tested positive so far.
BC at a turning point, residents asked to pull back on social interactions and recommit to social distancing.
Haida Gwaii now up to 14 cases all linked to residents and off island travel. (there were some talk last week it was tourists but appears it was residents leaving the island and returning)
Outbreak in Kelowna continues to grow, cases linked to Kelowna up to 86, over 1,000 people in self isolation province wide.
Okanagan has had 107 positive tests between July 10 and July 23.
During the same period, 58 people were diagnosed south of the Fraser River, 49 in Vancouver and four in Richmond.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-27-1.5663897
Seems this area in Kelowna and related is the hot spot.
Yet look at the figures for Canada as a whole, 400 odd infections listed today, i'm assuming that a weekend count yet only 11 deaths, out of a country with 37 million people. We must be doing something right no?
#2305
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Re: Coronavirus
I foresee the day when many nations of the world will have permanent isolation/containment camps, each with its own airfield/hospital facilities. Then sufferers of such medical conditions as this virus can be transported home and more easily quarantined and reducing exposure risks to other members of society.
Oh wait, that's the source of the second wave there, sorry.
#2306
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Re: Coronavirus
To be clear, though, Victoria's failing was not from reducing restrictions too early. The VIC state government had gone harder and earlier into lockdown than most of the rest of Australia, and had copped some criticism for that. And when VIC started to lighten up on restrictions, their late-May, early-June new-case counts did actually seem to support that approach.
The VIC government's real failure was setting up the circumstances for a COVID-19 breakout from potentially-infected overseas returnees, inadequately policed by inadequately-trained and supervised contract security workers, within the quarantine hotels.
This same dynamic had occurred before within the "developed" world, e.g. it manifested in Singapore before it occurred in Victoria, Australia. "The government" rushes in to support the incomes of those who were previously in secure work (to be sure, for a good reason in that context, to maintain their consumer demand and avoid tanking that part of the economy) but then does nothing for those in "insecure" work, a.k.a. the "gig economy".
So the insecure workers keep working, regardless of their immediate health status. And they branch out into new insecure work opportunities, like security work at quarantine hotels. And they come home to households in high-rise public housing, and to family members who have equally insecure work in aged-care facilities.
And then the second wave starts happening, with everyone from the Victorian premier on down blaming those who live hand-to-mouth for going to work when they're sick.
The VIC government's real failure was setting up the circumstances for a COVID-19 breakout from potentially-infected overseas returnees, inadequately policed by inadequately-trained and supervised contract security workers, within the quarantine hotels.
This same dynamic had occurred before within the "developed" world, e.g. it manifested in Singapore before it occurred in Victoria, Australia. "The government" rushes in to support the incomes of those who were previously in secure work (to be sure, for a good reason in that context, to maintain their consumer demand and avoid tanking that part of the economy) but then does nothing for those in "insecure" work, a.k.a. the "gig economy".
So the insecure workers keep working, regardless of their immediate health status. And they branch out into new insecure work opportunities, like security work at quarantine hotels. And they come home to households in high-rise public housing, and to family members who have equally insecure work in aged-care facilities.
And then the second wave starts happening, with everyone from the Victorian premier on down blaming those who live hand-to-mouth for going to work when they're sick.
#2307
Re: Coronavirus
To be clear, though, Victoria's failing was not from reducing restrictions too early. The VIC state government had gone harder and earlier into lockdown than most of the rest of Australia, and had copped some criticism for that. And when VIC started to lighten up on restrictions, their late-May, early-June new-case counts did actually seem to support that approach.
The VIC government's real failure was setting up the circumstances for a COVID-19 breakout from potentially-infected overseas returnees, inadequately policed by inadequately-trained and supervised contract security workers, within the quarantine hotels.
This same dynamic had occurred before within the "developed" world, e.g. it manifested in Singapore before it occurred in Victoria, Australia. "The government" rushes in to support the incomes of those who were previously in secure work (to be sure, for a good reason in that context, to maintain their consumer demand and avoid tanking that part of the economy) but then does nothing for those in "insecure" work, a.k.a. the "gig economy".
So the insecure workers keep working, regardless of their immediate health status. And they branch out into new insecure work opportunities, like security work at quarantine hotels. And they come home to households in high-rise public housing, and to family members who have equally insecure work in aged-care facilities.
And then the second wave starts happening, with everyone from the Victorian premier on down blaming those who live hand-to-mouth for going to work when they're sick.
The VIC government's real failure was setting up the circumstances for a COVID-19 breakout from potentially-infected overseas returnees, inadequately policed by inadequately-trained and supervised contract security workers, within the quarantine hotels.
This same dynamic had occurred before within the "developed" world, e.g. it manifested in Singapore before it occurred in Victoria, Australia. "The government" rushes in to support the incomes of those who were previously in secure work (to be sure, for a good reason in that context, to maintain their consumer demand and avoid tanking that part of the economy) but then does nothing for those in "insecure" work, a.k.a. the "gig economy".
So the insecure workers keep working, regardless of their immediate health status. And they branch out into new insecure work opportunities, like security work at quarantine hotels. And they come home to households in high-rise public housing, and to family members who have equally insecure work in aged-care facilities.
And then the second wave starts happening, with everyone from the Victorian premier on down blaming those who live hand-to-mouth for going to work when they're sick.
#2308
Re: Coronavirus
What we need is a bunch of these specially trained COVID detector dogs at the arrival hall of all major intl airports.
Apparently they had a 94% detection rate, here is one of the little buggers in action
https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.c...79-020-05281-3
These preliminary findings indicate that trained detection dogs can identify respiratory secretion samples from hospitalised and clinically diseased SARS-CoV-2 infected individuals by discriminating between samples from SARS-CoV-2 infected patients and negative controls. This data may form the basis for the reliable screening method of SARS-CoV-2 infected people.
Apparently they had a 94% detection rate, here is one of the little buggers in action
https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.c...79-020-05281-3
These preliminary findings indicate that trained detection dogs can identify respiratory secretion samples from hospitalised and clinically diseased SARS-CoV-2 infected individuals by discriminating between samples from SARS-CoV-2 infected patients and negative controls. This data may form the basis for the reliable screening method of SARS-CoV-2 infected people.
#2310
Re: Coronavirus
Just following loosely. So in BC, the cases are starting to rise, but the hospitalized are currently low. Is that the status?