Coronavirus
#2132
Re: Coronavirus
Some people buy their eggs by email payment which is auto-deposited to an account I can use for contactless payment to the car wash so that nearly works Unfortunately the bank charges for the auto-deposit exceed the price of the eggs so it's not a financially attractive option unless you're the bank.
#2133
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Joined: Jan 2006
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Re: Coronavirus
A couple of times when we sold something and they paid with cash, but we haven't made an effort to go the an ATM to get cash, we sometimes do cash back at Wal-Mart for $10 to get some coins though mainly for parking meters.
#2134
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Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,982
Re: Coronavirus
I disagree with you both. Sometimes judgements need to be made for the greater good. It would not be the healthcare system making the judgement, but the police and likely, the judicial system. In any case, the mere imposition is such a protocol would send a clear signal to violators that their action is deemed wrong by society.
I don't see why healthcare workers need to be put at mortal risk by people who willfully transmit an infectious disease. It's very different from the examples you cite.
I don't see why healthcare workers need to be put at mortal risk by people who willfully transmit an infectious disease. It's very different from the examples you cite.
Turning someone away from Emergency or appointnentbbecause they are not wearing a mask is acceptable because the non masked are making a choice.
not treating someone because of their foolish decision is patently wrong. I certainly couldn't participate in a system that followed those rules. How can such callous behaviour be for the greater good? Woukd you have them coughing and sputtering and dying? Maybe the ditches littered with people ejected from MVAs who hasn't worn seatbelts or helmets? Oh and those smokers, just let them die.
infectious disease treatment benefits society regardless of how the infected acquired the disease.
#2135
Re: Coronavirus
I disagree with you both. Sometimes judgements need to be made for the greater good. It would not be the healthcare system making the judgement, but the police and likely, the judicial system. In any case, the mere imposition is such a protocol would send a clear signal to violators that their action is deemed wrong by society.
I don't see why healthcare workers need to be put at mortal risk by people who willfully transmit an infectious disease. It's very different from the examples you cite.
I don't see why healthcare workers need to be put at mortal risk by people who willfully transmit an infectious disease. It's very different from the examples you cite.
#2136
Re: Coronavirus
Come along to our hospital here in Kelowna and there is no mandate to wear a mask, that's in the hospital! Majority of staff are wearing one especially when treating people but i saw many people without, there is no sign asking you to put one on and i saw some staff members around the building not wearing them, albeit they were in hallways or offices BUT clearly if there is no specific requirement even in a hospital you can see why some people get a bit pissy about different rules in a store for example. There is currently, in BC anyway, no clear and concise agreement from all parties, even one of our glorious MP's was seen in airport without one. I don't think the rules in UK are any better either.
Costco management should run the country. Better health policies than BC hospitals, done more for the middle class standard of living than any government.
#2137
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Re: Coronavirus
I haven't gone anywhere yet in Vancouver area where masks are required. The urgent care clinic yesterday I was at 90% of the workers had a mask on, but no sign mandating it, although the sign did say they recommend a mask be worn if possible. I was the only patient in the waiting room, so no idea if patients listen to the recommendation.
This is the BC CDC stance on masks for healthy people.
"If you are healthy, wearing a non-medical or cloth mask or face covering is a matter of personal choice and it might help to protect others. This is because some people can spread the virus when they have very mild symptoms or may not know that they are infected. In this case, wearing a mask can help protect others by containing your own droplets when talking, laughing, singing, coughing, or sneezing. Wearing a cloth mask might not protect you from COVID-19, but it is a good option in situations where you cannot keep a safe distance from others for an extended period of time, such as when you are on transit, getting a haircut or visiting someone indoors.
Any mask, no matter how good it is at catching droplets or how well it seals, will have minimal effect if it is not used together with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand washing and physical distancing.
It is important to treat people wearing masks with respect."
This is the BC CDC stance on masks for healthy people.
"If you are healthy, wearing a non-medical or cloth mask or face covering is a matter of personal choice and it might help to protect others. This is because some people can spread the virus when they have very mild symptoms or may not know that they are infected. In this case, wearing a mask can help protect others by containing your own droplets when talking, laughing, singing, coughing, or sneezing. Wearing a cloth mask might not protect you from COVID-19, but it is a good option in situations where you cannot keep a safe distance from others for an extended period of time, such as when you are on transit, getting a haircut or visiting someone indoors.
Any mask, no matter how good it is at catching droplets or how well it seals, will have minimal effect if it is not used together with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand washing and physical distancing.
It is important to treat people wearing masks with respect."
#2138
Re: Coronavirus
I haven't gone anywhere yet in Vancouver area where masks are required. The urgent care clinic yesterday I was at 90% of the workers had a mask on, but no sign mandating it, although the sign did say they recommend a mask be worn if possible. I was the only patient in the waiting room, so no idea if patients listen to the recommendation.
This is the BC CDC stance on masks for healthy people.
"If you are healthy, wearing a non-medical or cloth mask or face covering is a matter of personal choice and it might help to protect others. This is because some people can spread the virus when they have very mild symptoms or may not know that they are infected. In this case, wearing a mask can help protect others by containing your own droplets when talking, laughing, singing, coughing, or sneezing. Wearing a cloth mask might not protect you from COVID-19, but it is a good option in situations where you cannot keep a safe distance from others for an extended period of time, such as when you are on transit, getting a haircut or visiting someone indoors.
Any mask, no matter how good it is at catching droplets or how well it seals, will have minimal effect if it is not used together with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand washing and physical distancing.
It is important to treat people wearing masks with respect."
This is the BC CDC stance on masks for healthy people.
"If you are healthy, wearing a non-medical or cloth mask or face covering is a matter of personal choice and it might help to protect others. This is because some people can spread the virus when they have very mild symptoms or may not know that they are infected. In this case, wearing a mask can help protect others by containing your own droplets when talking, laughing, singing, coughing, or sneezing. Wearing a cloth mask might not protect you from COVID-19, but it is a good option in situations where you cannot keep a safe distance from others for an extended period of time, such as when you are on transit, getting a haircut or visiting someone indoors.
Any mask, no matter how good it is at catching droplets or how well it seals, will have minimal effect if it is not used together with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand washing and physical distancing.
It is important to treat people wearing masks with respect."
#2139
Re: Coronavirus
Someone commented on our local forum that she found that mask wearers don't seem to keep their distance like is recommended and she felt they were under the assumption that it was ok to stand on top of you so long as they had a mask on. Our doctors will not let anyone in without a mask but they seem to be in the minority as you say.
#2140
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Joined: Jan 2006
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Re: Coronavirus
Someone commented on our local forum that she found that mask wearers don't seem to keep their distance like is recommended and she felt they were under the assumption that it was ok to stand on top of you so long as they had a mask on. Our doctors will not let anyone in without a mask but they seem to be in the minority as you say.
Wal-Mart mostly took down their one way aisles, they left the floor stickers but took down all the barriers they had that forced you to go one way, at self check out there is 0 distancing, even their employees come right up 2 feet away and try to sign you up for their stupid credit card, Canadian Tire isn't any better, their employees and vast majority in the store do not distance, Home Depot today was the same.
I notice less and less distancing by the day, just saw 3 city workers cram into the cab of a truck, so doesn't seem that they are social distancing.
Those are the only stores I have been to recently, but that has been my experience the last couple weeks.
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#2141
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Re: Coronavirus
Slowly recovering job wise in BC, unemployment fell 0.4% in June from 13.4% to 13%.
Gains in employment in May and June bring back about 40% of the total jobs lost since this started in March.
Youth unemployment at 29%
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...2020-1.5644843
Gains in employment in May and June bring back about 40% of the total jobs lost since this started in March.
Youth unemployment at 29%
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...2020-1.5644843
#2142
Re: Coronavirus
Slowly recovering job wise in BC, unemployment fell 0.4% in June from 13.4% to 13%.
Gains in employment in May and June bring back about 40% of the total jobs lost since this started in March.
Youth unemployment at 29%
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...2020-1.5644843
Gains in employment in May and June bring back about 40% of the total jobs lost since this started in March.
Youth unemployment at 29%
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...2020-1.5644843
This is going to be even more of an issue in a country like Canada where immigration routes are still fairly liberal compared with most other similar economies.
#2143
Re: Coronavirus
I have noticed the same, a good chunk of people wearing masks do not distance even though its possible to do so, in general things in Vancouver are back to normal, the only precautions super store has now is a bottle of hand sanitizer at the door, and they still space you at check out, but the rest of the store is crowded free for all.
Wal-Mart mostly took down their one way aisles, they left the floor stickers but took down all the barriers they had that forced you to go one way, at self check out there is 0 distancing, even their employees come right up 2 feet away and try to sign you up for their stupid credit card, Canadian Tire isn't any better, their employees and vast majority in the store do not distance, Home Depot today was the same.
I notice less and less distancing by the day, just saw 3 city workers cram into the cab of a truck, so doesn't seem that they are social distancing.
Those are the only stores I have been to recently, but that has been my experience the last couple weeks.
Wal-Mart mostly took down their one way aisles, they left the floor stickers but took down all the barriers they had that forced you to go one way, at self check out there is 0 distancing, even their employees come right up 2 feet away and try to sign you up for their stupid credit card, Canadian Tire isn't any better, their employees and vast majority in the store do not distance, Home Depot today was the same.
I notice less and less distancing by the day, just saw 3 city workers cram into the cab of a truck, so doesn't seem that they are social distancing.
Those are the only stores I have been to recently, but that has been my experience the last couple weeks.
#2144
Re: Coronavirus
If there was a place where I would expect to see people without masks, it would be WalMart. I'd also go there if I wanted to see people without covering for their butt crack. Any windowless building signed "Tavern" would also be a good bet for both along with vape shops and motels offering rooms by the hour. I suggest that during a pandemic is not the time to visit any such places.
#2145
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Joined: Jan 2006
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Re: Coronavirus
Youth unemployment was a massive issue in most of the western world before the pandemic unfortunately and Covid has likely only made things worse. In most industries, experience means much more than qualifications these days so unless you've been educated in medicine or a high demand STEM subject, post graduation career opportunities are usually few and far between.
This is going to be even more of an issue in a country like Canada where immigration routes are still fairly liberal compared with most other similar economies.
This is going to be even more of an issue in a country like Canada where immigration routes are still fairly liberal compared with most other similar economies.
The company I was working for at the airport, while I left before COVID ever came into reality, so far they have only brought back 5 out of the 200 they laid off, but 50 flights a day average to now 7 which is up, but a long ways to go before they will ever need to have full staffing levels again.