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Old Sep 29th 2009 | 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by Essex_Man
LOL. Good Cause I the only gay out of the village.



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So do you wear the shiny pants and everything?
 
Old Sep 29th 2009 | 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by triumphguy
So do you wear the shiny pants and everything?
He's from Essex...bling!
 
Old Sep 29th 2009 | 9:14 am
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So he is a chav?

How does one pronounce chav - is it shav, or ch-av? I'd never heard that word when I lived over there!
 
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Originally Posted by triumphguy
So he is a chav?

How does one pronounce chav - is it shav, or ch-av? I'd never heard that word when I lived over there!
CH-AV
 
Old Sep 29th 2009 | 9:25 am
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Charv if you're a posh chav.
 
Old Sep 29th 2009 | 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by triumphguy
So do you wear the shiny pants and everything?
In the 80's and had Mk3 escort.

Originally Posted by Kate2112
He's from Essex...bling!
Yes, From 1976 GLC kick out.

Originally Posted by triumphguy
So he is a chav?

How does one pronounce chav - is it shav, or ch-av? I'd never heard that word when I lived over there!
Chav is more a derogative term for working class. But really chav means someone who grew up on the dole. Single parent and lives in a council flat and has no intention of working. Just spending there life on the dole and wear Burbury and only hard when in groups and wants to smash your face for no point. The name chav originates from Chatham kent.

However.

My mother live her whole life on the dole. But not me. I'm Essex man. We have loads of money and drive flash cars and worked hard.

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Originally Posted by Essex_Man



Chav is more a derogative term for working class. But really chav means someone who grew up on the dole. Single parent and lives in a council flat and has no intention of working. Just spending there life on the dole and wear Burbury and only hard when in groups and wants to smash your face for no point. The name chav originates from Chatham kent.
Once more you're talking out of your pitiful little arse.

"Etymology

The word may have its origins in Romani language.[6][7] One suggested etymology for "chav" is that it derives from the Romani word chavo, meaning boy (cf. "yob" - a reversal of boy).[7][8] This is similar to the colloquial Spanish word chaval, meaning "kid" or "guy".[8] The Romani chavo appears to have transferred to the Nonantum, Massachusetts dialect as "chabby", though without the negative connotations of "chav".[9]

An alternative etymology suggests that pupils at Cheltenham Ladies' College and Cheltenham College used the word to describe the young men of the town ("Cheltenham Average").[8][10]

Many folk etymologies have sprung up around the word. These include the backronym "Council Housed And Violent".[3]

The term "chav" has regional variations, such as "charver" in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland, but not all of the North-East of England."
 
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Originally Posted by Essex_Man
In the 80's and had Mk3 escort.



Yes, From 1976 GLC kick out.



Chav is more a derogative term for working class. But really chav means someone who grew up on the dole. Single parent and lives in a council flat and has no intention of working. Just spending there life on the dole and wear Burbury and only hard when in groups and wants to smash your face for no point. The name chav originates from Chatham kent.

However.

My mother live her whole life on the dole. But not me. I'm Essex man. We have loads of money and drive flash cars and worked hard.
It is not a derogative term for the working class..............not all working class people are Chavs. I was raised in a working class family and I most certainly am not now, nor have I ever been "a chav".
 
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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
Once more you're talking out of your pitiful little arse.
Hey I have a nice BUM....Yep It's lovely BUM. Not saddle soar either Cowboy like yours.

Interesting. I was generalizing a bit. But i watch a document on Chavs a few years back and they said the name came from there. Now I'm unsure. Thanks for the infor. Thank goodness I never had the pleasure of meeting a chav.
 
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Originally Posted by dollface
It is not a derogative term for the working class..............not all working class people are Chavs. I was raised in a working class family and I most certainly am not now, nor have I ever been "a chav".
It has been used that way tho. Nothing wrong with being working class I'm proud to be.
 
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Originally Posted by Essex_Man
It has been used that way tho. Nothing wrong with being working class I'm proud to be.
Haven't heard it used in that manner. More of your Vicky Pollard type situation. Certainly not working class.
 
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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
Once more you're talking out of your pitiful little arse.

"Etymology

The word may have its origins in Romani language.[6][7] One suggested etymology for "chav" is that it derives from the Romani word chavo, meaning boy (cf. "yob" - a reversal of boy).[7][8] This is similar to the colloquial Spanish word chaval, meaning "kid" or "guy".[8] The Romani chavo appears to have transferred to the Nonantum, Massachusetts dialect as "chabby", though without the negative connotations of "chav".[9]

An alternative etymology suggests that pupils at Cheltenham Ladies' College and Cheltenham College used the word to describe the young men of the town ("Cheltenham Average").[8][10]

Many folk etymologies have sprung up around the word. These include the backronym "Council Housed And Violent".[3]

The term "chav" has regional variations, such as "charver" in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland, but not all of the North-East of England."
I hate to agree with you , but that's how I understood and used the word. It meant boy, so instead of "alright boy" it was replaced with 'chav'. We also used to wear chav or pikey boots and patterned long cardigans to signify that we belonged to such a social grouping. As fashions changed we started to take symbols and brands of the upper classes, such Aquascutum and Burberry and subvert and re-appropriate the original signifier of exclusion into more stable and relevant forms.

Being a chav, used to mean someone with a sophisticated sense of style and a strong sense of group loyalty. I don't know when and where 'chav' became a pejorative term representing the vulgarization of UK society.
 
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Spot on - the Troll A is the largest structure ever moved by man.
I think I'll skip commentary on the deconstruction of the origins of the chav, but I did wonder why the Troll A was constructed in the centre of Paris?
 
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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
Many folk etymologies have sprung up around the word. These include the backronym "Council Housed And Violent".[3]
I thought it was Council Housed Adult Vermin - same difference
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
I hate to agree with you , but that's how I understood and used the word. It meant boy, so instead of "alright boy" it was replaced with 'chav'. We also used to wear chav or pikey boots and patterned long cardigans to signify that we belonged to such a social grouping. As fashions changed we started to take symbols and brands of the upper classes, such Aquascutum and Burberry and subvert and re-appropriate the original signifier of exclusion into more stable and relevant forms.

Being a chav, used to mean someone with a sophisticated sense of style and a strong sense of group loyalty. I don't know when and where 'chav' became a pejorative term representing the vulgarization of UK society.
Wow!

So what happened to Doc Martins and Donkey Jackets?

Re: working class - I'm proud to be working class too. But we had standards of behaviour (decorum) and realised the need for education. Just because we were working class didn't mean we were "dead common."

Does the working class still exist?
 


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