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Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by beckiwoo
Not according to the Canadians I have spoken to about the USA. They have no interest in living there. Even less so right now with the presidential election stuff going on.
Well if you have quick look it would suggest there are more Canadian migrants in the US than Brit migrants
Some rough numbers suggested they made up 10% of the US migrant population
or 2.5 x the number of Americans who moved north
Then factor in the relative population sizes .
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by not2old
James Skinner from a web search. Is this what he is all about?

Is he going from country to country on a working holiday visa?

Makes you wonder if was doing this in all the other countries that he lived in?

https://typicalbritto.wordpress.com/...james-skinner/

c&p'd from that link

This is something that happened to James on two separate occasions. He lived and worked in Melbourne (Australia) for over a year, and despite wanting to stay, his options for continuing his work permit and applying for permanent residency were not viable.

He now lives in Vancouver (Canada), and just recently, he found out that despite living in the Pacific coast city for nearly 2 years, working in an established law firm with a good salary, contributing taxes to the government and integrating within Canadian society with a clean record, his chances of actually staying and receiving permanent residency are exceptionally slim due to new immigration rules, effective as of January 2015.
Basically his contribution at his law firm is not valuable enough for them to get him a work permit.

Just another entitled white kid. We have enough of those in Canada.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by JamesM
Basically his contribution at his law firm is not valuable enough for them to get him a work permit.

Just another entitled white kid. We have enough of those in Canada.
After he leaves Canada in the next short while & gets back to Wales, I'm guessing unless he can find another 'short work permit' somewhere, that his website will die a quick death.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by MikeUK
Well if you have quick look it would suggest there are more Canadian migrants in the US than Brit migrants
Some rough numbers suggested they made up 10% of the US migrant population
or 2.5 x the number of Americans who moved north
Then factor in the relative population sizes .
There are certain professions where you can obtain a visa and head south if you are a Canadian Citizen.

A friend of mine is a graphic designer and was able to relocate to San Fran with not too much hassle.

The list of professions is small but it does cause a brain drain in Canada in those professions because wages in Silicon Valley and NYC are 50 to 100% better.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by MikeUK
Well if you have quick look it would suggest there are more Canadian migrants in the US than Brit migrants
Some rough numbers suggested they made up 10% of the US migrant population
or 2.5 x the number of Americans who moved north
Then factor in the relative population sizes .
Good for them then!!!
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by not2old
After he leaves Canada in the next short while & gets back to Wales, I'm guessing unless he can find another 'short work permit' somewhere, that his website will die a quick death.
He'll be at the pub wondering why he can't jump the queue to get served at the bar.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by JamesM
He'll be at the pub wondering why he can't jump the queue to get served at the bar.


When no one at the bar will give a toss about who he is or where he has been, then when he gets blathered, his next adventure will be running as an MP, all because he has a world of experience, one year at a time
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by JamesM
There are certain professions where you can obtain a visa and head south if you are a Canadian Citizen.

A friend of mine is a graphic designer and was able to relocate to San Fran with not too much hassle.

The list of professions is small but it does cause a brain drain in Canada in those professions because wages in Silicon Valley and NYC are 50 to 100% better.
Well with the introduction of NAFTA that made it easier for citizens of Mexico and Canada to seek work in the USA or each others countries. The TN visa for the US is very popular but is limited to the following professions
http://canada.usembassy.gov/visas/do...-by-nafta.html
Graphic Designer
Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 4:05 am
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Originally Posted by RickD
Easy enough for you to say maybe, but some people who were otherwise eligible for PR (myself included) have been unfairly affected by the red tape surrounding the immigration process.
It's not like any person would be able to just move between the countries and place a burden on their destination country's infranstructure, there would still be eligibility criteria to pass
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It's my understanding is that the proposed freedom of movement idea would be for everyone of the participating countries. Is this not the case? If it is the case, then for someone like my FIL to move here sure as hell would be a burden. Isn't having eligibility criteria what we have at the moment? It just seems some people don't meet them. That isn't the fault of the current system.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by rivingtonpike
It's my understanding is that the proposed freedom of movement idea would be for everyone of the participating countries. Is this not the case? If it is the case, then for someone like my FIL to move here sure as hell would be a burden. Isn't having eligibility criteria what we have at the moment? It just seems some people don't meet them. That isn't the fault of the current system.
This. It seems the whole "commonwealth freedom of movement" thing is a whinge-fest dreamt up by this James Skinner fellow. It's not actually a real thing, it is so completely flawed as a concept that it has no hope of ever becoming a real thing, and is really not worth getting exercised over.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by Oakvillian
This. It seems the whole "commonwealth freedom of movement" thing is a whinge-fest dreamt up by this James Skinner fellow. It's not actually a real thing, it is so completely flawed as a concept that it has no hope of ever becoming a real thing, and is really not worth getting exercised over.
You're absolutely right of course. But for me this is a bit like a wobbly tooth that I just can't leave alone. It's the hypocracy of trying to give this some sort of veil of official mandate. What they actually mean is - I can't get in and I want to, so we should change the rules so I can.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by beckiwoo
OK calm down Mr. 'I think America is the best country ever'.

Where is your proof that Canada ranks lower then the USA?
I never said that Canada ranks lower than the US, I said it ranks low among OECD countries, which it does.

I also never said America is the best country ever, but the reality is that Canadians own a huge amount of real estate in the sunbelt in the US and if there was freedom of movement, a lot of retirees at least would decamp to the US. Regardless of the healthcare situation.

Great, Canada ranks 30th and the US ranks 37th. There's an incentive for an American to put up with a Canadian winter if ever there was one, not.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
"Look, your country has a low ranking....yes I know we're even lower but your country is still low"
Well exactly, this is what gets up my nose when people say how great the healthcare is. Well, better access to it perhaps and less paperwork to plough through compared to the US but really the care itself is no better and saying the Canadian healthcare system is better than the US is really damning with faint praise.

Anyway I have to say I've taken to going to the US to see the dentist because I've found one who is far better than anyone I could find in Calgary and he charges less to boot.
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Well with the introduction of NAFTA that made it easier for citizens of Mexico and Canada to seek work in the USA or each others countries. The TN visa for the US is very popular but is limited to the following professions
http://canada.usembassy.gov/visas/do...-by-nafta.html
Graphic Designer
Baccalaureate or Licenciatura Degree; or Post-Secondary Diploma or Post-Secondary Certificate, and three years experience
TN-1 though is a non-immigrant status and CBP in recent years seem to be taking the approach that you can't maintain non-immigrant status past one or two "renewals" (more accurately, re-applications). Not unless you've actually lived in Canada at some point during that period.

It varies with the inspector you get obviously and what mood s/he is in but really do you want the future direction of your life decided by a CBP inspector at a POE once every three years?

I remember talking to a Canadian engineer who had been on TN-1 for 15 years (back when it had to be renewed annually) and he gave up and moved back to Canada because after his kids grew up his wife was bored senseless because spouses are not allowed to work. The company he worked for was a small outfit so LPR status was apparently not on the cards.

Yes Canadians have freer movement into the US than other nationalities do, but I wouldn't call it "free" movement.

U.S. border guards bar skilled Canadian from his job - British Columbia - CBC News
 
Old Jan 5th 2016 | 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_
...I've taken to going to the US to see the dentist because...he charges less to boot.
Is that a novel, albeit painful, tooth extraction method?
 


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