Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
#16
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
I don't think this example works around here. One must decide to drive to work or to take transit for a month, not a day, because driving requires investments (parking pass, insurance for commuting, perhaps a fuel efficient car) that provide a sensible return only when used consistently. Similarly, taking transit at the single trip fare is economically infeasible.
This thread is the first I've seen of this program. Will I get a larger tax rebate if I bring the V12 car to work every day?
This thread is the first I've seen of this program. Will I get a larger tax rebate if I bring the V12 car to work every day?
Mr. Trudeau took away the ability for one to claim their public transit costs on their tax returns to reduce their taxable income, so it appears that he wasn't that concerned about persuading people to use public transit.
I can only buy my electricity and the gas that I need to heat my home and operate electrical things from a single provider. Again, that my be as a result of a choice I made to live outside of a City. However, I am not aware of any suppliers in Alberta that use a form of energy that the others don't use. So, Albertans at least, have no choice to use a less carbon producing method to run their homes.
Now I am fortunate as I have been able to afford to install "zero carbon emissions" methods of electricity generation at our place. I did this prior to the carbon tax being imposed upon Albertans and, due to my income, I have no chance of qualifying for any form of rebate, at least until I retire. However, the rebate that I may receive at that time, while welcome, will not incentivise me to use less carbon than I am now.
If any form of government really wants to reduce carbon emissions, I believe that there are far more immediate, any far more betterer, ways to do so. Ban drive thrus, stop all downtown office buildings having their lights on 24/7, get pipelines built so that the things that travel through the pipes do not need to travel by train/road, do the things I proposed above. Of course, this won't happen.
#17
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
Imagine the administration costs involved in everyone having to identify their individual carbon tax - be it the extra costs of gas, groceries, heating etc - and then having their rebates assessed accordingly so everyone gets a different amount.
Instead, an average is calculated.
Instead, an average is calculated.
I appreciate that something needs to be done. I simply don't believe the proposed method, or the ones that are currently operating, will make any difference at all.
In Alberta, they were using the system to give lightbulbs to people. One can also obtain grants for installing thing such as solar panels. However, in the case of solar panels, one had to use the government approved manufacturer and installers, who charged more than rebate one would receive from doing so that one could find other manufacturers/installers to install the exact same product. Of course, the government administrators had to be paid to administer the scheme as well - more money lost.
#19
Formerly known as Hangman
Joined: Jun 2014
Location: Calgary
Posts: 519
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
Most people are missing the point of a carbon tax if they believe it is aimed at them. Yes they can do their part by using LED light bulbs, purchasing a high efficiency furnace if the they don't already have one. Improving the insulation in their homes, buying a more efficient vehicle when it's time to replace the current one etc. etc. That's why they get rebates to help fund these items even if it is in a minor way.
The main targets of the carbon tax are the big emitters, major industries. By taxing them it gives them an incentive to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions on a much larger scale than the average Canadian.
My two cents worth, possibly totally out to lunch but I don't think so.
The main targets of the carbon tax are the big emitters, major industries. By taxing them it gives them an incentive to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions on a much larger scale than the average Canadian.
My two cents worth, possibly totally out to lunch but I don't think so.
#20
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
Great potential benefits all around. Fewer cups strewn across the countryside, A small step against obesity. Fewer vehicles swerving across the road because the fat **** at the wheel can't steer and shove stodge at the same time. This is a wonderful idea.
#21
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
Most people are missing the point of a carbon tax if they believe it is aimed at them. Yes they can do their part by using LED light bulbs, purchasing a high efficiency furnace if the they don't already have one. Improving the insulation in their homes, buying a more efficient vehicle when it's time to replace the current one etc. etc. That's why they get rebates to help fund these items even if it is in a minor way.
The main targets of the carbon tax are the big emitters, major industries. By taxing them it gives them an incentive to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions on a much larger scale than the average Canadian.
My two cents worth, possibly totally out to lunch but I don't think so.
The main targets of the carbon tax are the big emitters, major industries. By taxing them it gives them an incentive to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions on a much larger scale than the average Canadian.
My two cents worth, possibly totally out to lunch but I don't think so.
Again, regulation is the only way to punish them and the issue with that is: What if they decide to stop producing? Look at the balancing pool fiasco that resulted from the implementation of the carbon tax here. What if the manufacturers decided to relocate to another jurisdiction?
I appreciate that something has to be done, I am just not sure that this is it.
#22
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,982
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
There are rebates for various energy saving home projects. Fewer than there were as Ford has cancelled some.
#23
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
Everything will be hit, food will cost more as transportation cost will rise. Truck drivers can’t use the bus !!
people die every year because they can not afford to heat their homes, maybe more dead people will help with the climate change
How do taxi drivers, couriers, delivery drivers, surveillance operatives, etc use less? To them it’s just a tax.
meanwhile big factories still polute on a massive scale while China and the US fill the air with shite
the elections are looming, this will be a factor and my guess is the Liberal stupidity will end soon.
people die every year because they can not afford to heat their homes, maybe more dead people will help with the climate change
How do taxi drivers, couriers, delivery drivers, surveillance operatives, etc use less? To them it’s just a tax.
meanwhile big factories still polute on a massive scale while China and the US fill the air with shite
the elections are looming, this will be a factor and my guess is the Liberal stupidity will end soon.
#24
Re: Carbon Tax - can someone please explain it to me?
Everything will be hit, food will cost more as transportation cost will rise. Truck drivers can’t use the bus !!
people die every year because they can not afford to heat their homes, maybe more dead people will help with the climate change
How do taxi drivers, couriers, delivery drivers, surveillance operatives, etc use less? To them it’s just a tax.
meanwhile big factories still polute on a massive scale while China and the US fill the air with shite
the elections are looming, this will be a factor and my guess is the Liberal stupidity will end soon.
people die every year because they can not afford to heat their homes, maybe more dead people will help with the climate change
How do taxi drivers, couriers, delivery drivers, surveillance operatives, etc use less? To them it’s just a tax.
meanwhile big factories still polute on a massive scale while China and the US fill the air with shite
the elections are looming, this will be a factor and my guess is the Liberal stupidity will end soon.
Maybe it's time to change the way deliveries are done. Perhaps organised from a central point instead of a whole bunch of people driving everywhere desperately trying to get their 'load' and having 10 journeys where two might suffice. Or is that too much like nationalisation?