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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
I'm not a fan of ice hockey. I've tried to watch it on TV, I even saw a game live in the UK once and I've tried to play video game versions of the sport. I just never got into it. Also, I couldn't understand how there were so many physical fights between rival players and how they seemed to go unpunished.
What with the condoned fighting, should I/we be surprised that a riot took place following defeat at a cup final? According to the internet, the number of "Hockey fights per NHL season is:- Season # of fights 2010-11 645 2009–10 714 2008–09 734 2007–08 664 2006–07 497 2005–06 466 " Hockey leading by example, perhaps the NHL should pay for damages caused by the rioters? |
Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 9437714)
Also, I couldn't understand how there were so many physical fights between rival players and how they seemed to go unpunished.
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 9437760)
Fighting is always punished. Both participants get a minimum of five minutes of penalties. If one participant is deemed to have started it rather than the fight coming spontaneously from play then they are assessed additional roughing penalties that will put their team short-handed.
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 9437714)
I'm not a fan of ice hockey. I've tried to watch it on TV, I even saw a game live in the UK once and I've tried to play video game versions of the sport. I just never got into it. Also, I couldn't understand how there were so many physical fights between rival players and how they seemed to go unpunished.
I also have an EA Sports NHL game and its really really boring. :thumbdown: |
Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9437765)
I also have an EA Sports NHL game and its really really boring. :thumbdown:
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 9437766)
So, highly realistic then?
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 9437479)
I think it is a rather silly comment by McCown. I have seen plenty of football games where one team plays the other off the park but fails to score, only for the other to score on a breakaway in the last 10 minutes. Edit out that goal and you'll pick the wrong winner.
What he's getting at is that there is no correlation between e.g. possession of the puck, positional advantage on the rink, successful passing, dumping it in and changing on the fly etc. with the result of the game. Yes, you can watch the odd football game where one team dominates but loses to a breakaway goal, but even then you can decide which team is the better one. Hockey games are deciding by random deflections and bounces of the puck. Boring. |
Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 9437760)
Fighting is always punished. Both participants get a minimum of five minutes of penalties. If one participant is deemed to have started it rather than the fight coming spontaneously from play then they are assessed additional roughing penalties that will put their team short-handed.
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 9437791)
I may have garbled McCowan's comment. Perhaps "Can you tell which is the better team"? is more precise.
What he's getting at is that there is no correlation between e.g. possession of the puck, positional advantage on the rink, successful passing, dumping it in and changing on the fly etc. with the result of the game. Yes, you can watch the odd football game where one team dominates but loses to a breakaway goal, but even then you can decide which team is the better one. Hockey games are deciding by random deflections and bounces of the puck. Boring. Random deflections and bounces do occur in hockey, like football, but they are not the cause of that many goals. Of course there is luck involved. This is no different to any other sport. And, like any other sport, the good teams tend to be the luckiest. |
Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 9437760)
Fighting is always punished. Both participants get a minimum of five minutes of penalties. If one participant is deemed to have started it rather than the fight coming spontaneously from play then they are assessed additional roughing penalties that will put their team short-handed.
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 9437820)
I greatly enjoy watching both football and hockey. As sports, I find many more similarities between them than differences. Both combine tactics, team play and individual skills and the team that marries these three qualities best will win more times than not.
Random deflections and bounces do occur in hockey, like football, but they are not the cause of that many goals. Of course there is luck involved. This is no different to any other sport. And, like any other sport, the good teams tend to be the luckiest. <not that I watched it> |
Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by Greenhill
(Post 9437714)
I'm not a fan of ice hockey. I've tried to watch it on TV, I even saw a game live in the UK once and I've tried to play video game versions of the sport. I just never got into it. Also, I couldn't understand how there were so many physical fights between rival players and how they seemed to go unpunished.
What with the condoned fighting, should I/we be surprised that a riot took place following defeat at a cup final? According to the internet, the number of "Hockey fights per NHL season is:- Season # of fights 2010-11 645 2009–10 714 2008–09 734 2007–08 664 2006–07 497 2005–06 466 " Hockey leading by example, perhaps the NHL should pay for damages caused by the rioters? |
Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by Lord Vader
(Post 9437874)
lol, so when did fighting become legal in soccer and what is their excuse?
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by PeterF
(Post 9437802)
That's not really a punishment though is it. If a fight occurs in football match then both would be off, the teams would be short a player for the rest of the game and the players would be banned for 3 games plus probably fined.
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Re: Canucks lost - vancouver riots!
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 9437713)
It's not recognition I was thinking about. There are some horrible football shirts, but there are some nice ones.
http://www.soccerworldcupjerseys.com...03/image73.png Are there any nice Hockey tops? Aside from the design, they are somewhat large aren't they? http://www.acasports.co.uk/images/pr...ston-_Home.jpg |
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