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Steve_ Sep 13th 2011 3:28 am
Re: Canada to rejoin British Empire?
 
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9616300)
Are you sure about that? Why wouldn't either of the two official languages suffice?
It's a parliamentary rule, I was told. Or a committee rule at any rate, it might depend on the committee. It will end up in the official report of the committee in the evidence section, so they don't want to translate it for you.

Steve_ Sep 13th 2011 3:46 am
Re: Canada to rejoin British Empire?
 
http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/newsletter...arlement_e.htm

Parliamentary policy dictates that written submissions to parliamentary committees must be available in both official languages before they are distributed to committee members, although exceptions can be made with a unanimous vote by the committee in question. However, as Mr. Blaikie pointed out, members are reluctant to use this derogation for fear of creating a precedent for future committees—a slippery slope best avoided. A general respect for the principles of parliamentary bilingualism plays a part in members’ unwillingness to accept documents that are available in only one language. The end result is lost time while the committee waits for the translation of important documents. Depending on the issue at hand, this problem can range from slight annoyance to major legislative slowdowns.
All I know is, I'm not translating something technical into French just to satisfy a couple of awkward sods on a committee and as a result, that means the committee is less informed on the issue.

Almost Canadian Sep 13th 2011 6:15 am
Re: Canada to rejoin British Empire?
 
Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 9618455)
http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/newsletter...arlement_e.htm



All I know is, I'm not translating something technical into French just to satisfy a couple of awkward sods on a committee and as a result, that means the committee is less informed on the issue.
I do not believe that anything in that article mandates that the person making the written submission must do so in both languages, merely that the document must be translated into both before it reaches the committee. I would imagine that this in an internal requirement and, again, I assume that there is an internal procedure to achieve this.

Having said that, nothing would surprise me. While accepting that the ability to read, write and speak both langugages is ideal, one assumes that making that an absolute requirement excludes many on both side of the language debate that would otherwise be excellent candidates to assist Parliament.

Souvy Sep 13th 2011 10:42 pm
Re: Canada to rejoin British Empire?
 
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9618771)
I do not believe that anything in that article mandates that the person making the written submission must do so in both languages, merely that the document must be translated into both before it reaches the committee. I would imagine that this in an internal requirement and, again, I assume that there is an internal procedure to achieve this.

Having said that, nothing would surprise me. While accepting that the ability to read, write and speak both langugages is ideal, one assumes that making that an absolute requirement excludes many on both side of the language debate that would otherwise be excellent candidates to assist Parliament.
That would be illegal. I presume you've heard of the Constitution Act 1982?

The government employs lots of translators, including two of my neighbours.

Almost Canadian Sep 14th 2011 12:35 am
Re: Canada to rejoin British Empire?
 
Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 9620319)
That would be illegal. I presume you've heard of the Constitution Act 1982?

The government employs lots of translators, including two of my neighbours.
Isnt that what I said above? (Not about the neighbours:p)

Souvy Sep 14th 2011 12:50 am
Re: Canada to rejoin British Empire?
 
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9620496)
Isnt that what I said above? (Not about the neighbours:p)
You said something like that. I merely translated it into one of the official languages.:p

Steve_ Sep 17th 2011 3:45 pm
Re: Canada to rejoin British Empire?
 
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9618771)
I do not believe that anything in that article mandates that the person making the written submission must do so in both languages,
I think it depends on the committee. I was going to make a submission to the public safety committee and they told me it must be in both languages. Also depends I think on the urgency of whatever it is they're dealing with. I couldn't really grasp what the rules were so I gave up in the end.


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