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Old Jul 26th 2010 | 12:05 pm
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Default Re: Canada census

Originally Posted by Steve_P
and you know it's only used in this way...HOW?

Idiot.
This thread is probably dead but...large-scale social surveys are my professional area of expertise and I can't resist.

Anyone who has ever run such a survey will tell you that different types of people are more or less likely to respond to surveys.

If the long-form is voluntary you will under-represent:
- young people, esp. under 24
- visible minorities
- poor people
- people living in urban areas esp. Toronto

These people will all be less likely to respond.

You will over-represent:
- older people, esp. 55-74 year old
- people on middle incomes
- white unhypenated Canadians
- people in rural areas esp. on the prairies

These are all facts you can easily look up and check.

The result of this means that the census becomes less accurate and makes it difficult to tell where the bias is. How much is due to response, how much is due to changing demographics.

Anyone who works with this type of data is likely to tell you the same thing.

If you are against 'big government', fine. This is your political view and you are entitled to it.
 
Old Jul 26th 2010 | 12:11 pm
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Default Re: Canada census

Originally Posted by Lemonfish
This thread is probably dead but...large-scale social surveys are my professional area of expertise and I can't resist.

Anyone who has ever run such a survey will tell you that different types of people are more or less likely to respond to surveys.

If the long-form is voluntary you will under-represent:
- young people, esp. under 24
- visible minorities
- poor people
- people living in urban areas esp. Toronto

These people will all be less likely to respond.

You will over-represent:
- older people, esp. 55-74 year old
- people on middle incomes
- white unhypenated Canadians
- people in rural areas esp. on the prairies

These are all facts you can easily look up and check.

The result of this means that the census becomes less accurate and makes it difficult to tell where the bias is. How much is due to response, how much is due to changing demographics.

Anyone who works with this type of data is likely to tell you the same thing.

If you are against 'big government', fine. This is your political view and you are entitled to it.
I hope this reply wasn't aimed at me because I agree with everything you said.

Lord Vader is the one who disagrees.
 
Old Jul 26th 2010 | 12:12 pm
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Default Re: Canada census

Originally Posted by Steve_P
I hope this reply wasn't aimed at me because I agree with everything you said.

Lord Vader is the one who disagrees.
Yup, sorry Steve, wrong button.

That one was aimed at the Dark Lord...
 
Old Jul 26th 2010 | 12:21 pm
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Default Re: Canada census

Originally Posted by Lemonfish
Yup, sorry Steve, wrong button.

That one was aimed at the Dark Lord...
perhaps breaking down the content of the 2006 census and giving its usefulness of info and potential gov't use that can't be easily gathered from other sources would be a better start. You might be the first.
 

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