California Drought
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Maybe we should grow more proper food crops here in the Fraser Valley.
A few less 'superfoods' and more 'real foods' maybe.
Most of these blueberries and cranberries are exported. Apart from being fairly pointless from a real nutrition point of view.
Yet every field seems to be getting turned into a blueberry field, if it isn't being used for corn or raspberries and every bog is getting turned into a cranberry lagoon.
Then there's all the new vineyards...
Mind you, with all this global warming, we might soon see those clear-cut southern-facing slopes on the north shore being put to new uses....Cypress and Seymour vineyards anyone? lol
A few less 'superfoods' and more 'real foods' maybe.
Most of these blueberries and cranberries are exported. Apart from being fairly pointless from a real nutrition point of view.
Yet every field seems to be getting turned into a blueberry field, if it isn't being used for corn or raspberries and every bog is getting turned into a cranberry lagoon.
Then there's all the new vineyards...
Mind you, with all this global warming, we might soon see those clear-cut southern-facing slopes on the north shore being put to new uses....Cypress and Seymour vineyards anyone? lol
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Suppose the farmers have to grow what brings them the most money per acre since they are largely limited to just 1 season per year.
Can't be easy being a seasonal farm in BC.
California could reduce some crops like Almonds but prices were sky rocket since they produce nearly all of the almonds grown in the US, and something like 80% of the worlds supply.
California has more importance to our food chain then people realize.
"California produces more than 400 crops. Of those, the following are commercially produced
only in California: almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, raisins, kiwifruit, olives, clingstone peaches,
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
Just about 50% of the food supply in the US is from California.
California has been top agriculture state for over 50 years.
60% of California farms are 50 acres or less.
90% are family owned or cooperatives.
https://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
I know these numbers are US numbers and will be less for Canada, but take a look around and just look at how much produce is from California.
Can't be easy being a seasonal farm in BC.
California could reduce some crops like Almonds but prices were sky rocket since they produce nearly all of the almonds grown in the US, and something like 80% of the worlds supply.
California has more importance to our food chain then people realize.
"California produces more than 400 crops. Of those, the following are commercially produced
only in California: almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, raisins, kiwifruit, olives, clingstone peaches,
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
Just about 50% of the food supply in the US is from California.
California has been top agriculture state for over 50 years.
60% of California farms are 50 acres or less.
90% are family owned or cooperatives.
https://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
I know these numbers are US numbers and will be less for Canada, but take a look around and just look at how much produce is from California.
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"California produces more than 400 crops. Of those, the following are commercially produced only in California: almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, raisins, kiwifruit, olives, clingstone peaches,
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
I guess the person who wrote that statement is a member of the Flat Earth Society and thinks that there is nothing to the west or east of the USA coastline other than an abyss...
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Suppose the farmers have to grow what brings them the most money per acre since they are largely limited to just 1 season per year.
Can't be easy being a seasonal farm in BC.
California could reduce some crops like Almonds but prices were sky rocket since they produce nearly all of the almonds grown in the US, and something like 80% of the worlds supply.
California has more importance to our food chain then people realize.
"California produces more than 400 crops. Of those, the following are commercially produced
only in California: almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, raisins, kiwifruit, olives, clingstone peaches,
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
Just about 50% of the food supply in the US is from California.
California has been top agriculture state for over 50 years.
60% of California farms are 50 acres or less.
90% are family owned or cooperatives.
https://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
I know these numbers are US numbers and will be less for Canada, but take a look around and just look at how much produce is from California.
Can't be easy being a seasonal farm in BC.
California could reduce some crops like Almonds but prices were sky rocket since they produce nearly all of the almonds grown in the US, and something like 80% of the worlds supply.
California has more importance to our food chain then people realize.
"California produces more than 400 crops. Of those, the following are commercially produced
only in California: almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, raisins, kiwifruit, olives, clingstone peaches,
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
Just about 50% of the food supply in the US is from California.
California has been top agriculture state for over 50 years.
60% of California farms are 50 acres or less.
90% are family owned or cooperatives.
https://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
I know these numbers are US numbers and will be less for Canada, but take a look around and just look at how much produce is from California.
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As I said, it is in relation to what is grown within the US, not elsewhere so it's factually correct.
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Now if you have a house and land to grow enough, might work.
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"I know these numbers are US numbers"
It is factually correct.
Now if you like Almonds you will be up the creek if California stopped producing them.
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Suppose the farmers have to grow what brings them the most money per acre since they are largely limited to just 1 season per year.
Can't be easy being a seasonal farm in BC.
California could reduce some crops like Almonds but prices were sky rocket since they produce nearly all of the almonds grown in the US, and something like 80% of the worlds supply.
California has more importance to our food chain then people realize.
"California produces more than 400 crops. Of those, the following are commercially produced
only in California: almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, raisins, kiwifruit, olives, clingstone peaches,
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
Just about 50% of the food supply in the US is from California.
California has been top agriculture state for over 50 years.
60% of California farms are 50 acres or less.
90% are family owned or cooperatives.
https://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
I know these numbers are US numbers and will be less for Canada, but take a look around and just look at how much produce is from California.
Can't be easy being a seasonal farm in BC.
California could reduce some crops like Almonds but prices were sky rocket since they produce nearly all of the almonds grown in the US, and something like 80% of the worlds supply.
California has more importance to our food chain then people realize.
"California produces more than 400 crops. Of those, the following are commercially produced
only in California: almonds, artichokes, dates, figs, raisins, kiwifruit, olives, clingstone peaches,
pistachios, dried plums, pomegranates, sweet rice, ladino clover seed, and walnuts. "
Just about 50% of the food supply in the US is from California.
California has been top agriculture state for over 50 years.
60% of California farms are 50 acres or less.
90% are family owned or cooperatives.
https://www.agclassroom.org/kids/stats/california.pdf
I know these numbers are US numbers and will be less for Canada, but take a look around and just look at how much produce is from California.
California has Title 22 regulations which is pretty much the standard for equipment to reuse water (ie reuse treated sewage).
https://www.watereuse.org/government...epa-guidelines
I don't know what the per capita water usage in California is but in Alberta it's approx double what it would be in the UK.
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They need (more) large-scale desalination plants, just like most other desert state/countries have. I'm not sure if they've got any in California?
They have large areas of desert to construct wind farms or solar farms to get the energy to operate the desalination plants.
Thames Water even have an operational a desalination plant in London now.
They have large areas of desert to construct wind farms or solar farms to get the energy to operate the desalination plants.
Thames Water even have an operational a desalination plant in London now.
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Welcome to Canada.
The resource will be given away. Used to produce a good or service then sold back to us at a huge premium by a US Retailer via a minimum wage shop assistant or a highly paid Sales rep from the US who pops up on the airline occasionally.
Canada can't be the 53rd state because we have none of the benefits of freedom of movement with the US.
The resource will be given away. Used to produce a good or service then sold back to us at a huge premium by a US Retailer via a minimum wage shop assistant or a highly paid Sales rep from the US who pops up on the airline occasionally.
Canada can't be the 53rd state because we have none of the benefits of freedom of movement with the US.
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Don't like almonds. Most overrated nut on the planet.
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They need large-scale desalination plants, just like most other desert state/countries have.
They have large areas of desert to construct wind farms or solar farms to get the energy to operate the desalination plants.
Thames Water even have an operational a desalination plant in London now.
They have large areas of desert to construct wind farms or solar farms to get the energy to operate the desalination plants.
Thames Water even have an operational a desalination plant in London now.
There are 13 other potential sites under consideration currently as well.
Water use has dropped in San Diego ( too many regions to get an accurate number for every region.) 20% drop since 2007, and water use per capita per day per person is down to 150 gallons. Water use in 2014 was less then in 1990 despite a population increase of 30%.
Problem is there is only so much water that can be conserved before households just can't cut back any more.
Farms use most of the water by a large chunk and that is the hurdle.
For the previous 12 months ending in Feb, water use was down 4.2%.
Water Use | San Diego County Water Authority
More can still be done, but people do understand the need to conserve.



