The British Election
May 11th 2015, 3:27 pm
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Re: The British Election
UKIP won't let Nigel Farage resign....
Farage stays as UKIP leader after resignation rejected - BBC News
Farage stays as UKIP leader after resignation rejected - BBC News
May 11th 2015, 3:39 pm
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Re: The British Election
.... or, if you want to speculate based on the history of the parties, the "Blairite" wing of labour could do a quick and dirty amalgamation with the LD (remember where the D came from?) leaving the left fluttering in the wind (of change) like a tattered pennant of despair.
Roy Jenkins remains just about the most engaging public speaker I have ever heard. I went to a public lecture he gave, after the formation of the SDP but before the amalgamation with the Liberals, which kept the 17-year-old Oakvillian absolutely captivated for 90 minutes or so. I can't remember now the detail of what he said, but his style of delivery gave some indication of why he had been so successful in politics.
May 11th 2015, 3:40 pm
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Re: The British Election
But that just kept both out of power. Like it or not Labour isn't naturally a centre-left party, it would take a seismic shift in UK politricks to see the balance shift to where Canada is with a large centre-left part (Liberals) and the NDP where Labour wants to sit.
.... or, if you want to speculate based on the history of the parties, the "Blairite" wing of labour could do a quick and dirty amalgamation with the LD (remember where the D came from?) leaving the left fluttering in the wind (of change) like a tattered pennant of despair.
May 11th 2015, 4:06 pm
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May 11th 2015, 4:15 pm
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May 11th 2015, 4:31 pm
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Re: The British Election
Who will play the part of The Fourth One Who Nobody Remembers? Everybody recalls Williams, Owen and Jenkins, but Rodgers has disappeared into the mire of history.
Roy Jenkins remains just about the most engaging public speaker I have ever heard. I went to a public lecture he gave, after the formation of the SDP but before the amalgamation with the Liberals, which kept the 17-year-old Oakvillian absolutely captivated for 90 minutes or so. I can't remember now the detail of what he said, but his style of delivery gave some indication of why he had been so successful in politics.
Roy Jenkins remains just about the most engaging public speaker I have ever heard. I went to a public lecture he gave, after the formation of the SDP but before the amalgamation with the Liberals, which kept the 17-year-old Oakvillian absolutely captivated for 90 minutes or so. I can't remember now the detail of what he said, but his style of delivery gave some indication of why he had been so successful in politics.
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May 11th 2015, 4:50 pm
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Re: The British Election
.... or, if you want to speculate based on the history of the parties, the "Blairite" wing of labour could do a quick and dirty amalgamation with the LD (remember where the D came from?) leaving the left fluttering in the wind (of change) like a tattered pennant of despair Michael Foot.
If there ever was a politician who personified "a tattered pennant of despair" it was Michael Foot.
May 11th 2015, 5:07 pm
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May 11th 2015, 8:42 pm
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Re: The British Election
I liked Neil Kinnock too. Maybe they we're both a bit tattered but far better than the greasy false fronted apologies we have now who are all hair do's and no substance.I agree this last lot they were a disreputable mob, but what a depressing scenario when we don't even seem to have a proper organized opposition party. Quite a lot of adults questioned on Radio 4 had no idea who the people were who we're representing the parties
Where are the firebrands of yesteryear?
I'm getting old and grumpy.....and NO I don't need you all to agree!
May 11th 2015, 8:46 pm
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May 11th 2015, 11:01 pm
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Re: The British Election
OK, perhaps not Le Pen...
Jean-Marie Le Pen to create new group after suspension from Front National | World news | The Guardian
It's lucky I don't speak Quebec French because I might have confused Le Pen with a rabbit.
Jean-Marie Le Pen to create new group after suspension from Front National | World news | The Guardian
It's lucky I don't speak Quebec French because I might have confused Le Pen with a rabbit.
May 11th 2015, 11:15 pm
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Re: The British Election
By the time he became Labour party leader he was a sad, pathetic old man and utterly ineffectual. Instead of leading a robust opposition and claiming the center ground he took the Labour party off into the wilderness of socialist hard left politics that made the Labour party unelectable for more than a decade.
May 11th 2015, 11:58 pm
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Re: The British Election
By the time he became Labour party leader he was a sad, pathetic old man and utterly ineffectual. Instead of leading a robust opposition and claiming the center ground he took the Labour party off into the wilderness of socialist hard left politics that made the Labour party unelectable for more than a decade.