Black lives matter
#1
So I was watching a protest just now on CBC were Wynne was stood amonst "Black Lives Matter" protesters.
Can anyone explain why only black lives matter? Is this not like reverse racism? Sammy Yatim wasn't black what about his life?
I know it's about police v minority's but black people are not the only ones, what about the rest of the comunity!!
Should it not be a "civilian lives matter demonstration" ?
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...rotesters.html
Can anyone explain why only black lives matter? Is this not like reverse racism? Sammy Yatim wasn't black what about his life?
I know it's about police v minority's but black people are not the only ones, what about the rest of the comunity!!
Should it not be a "civilian lives matter demonstration" ?
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...rotesters.html
#2
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Nothing in BLM says that other lives don't matter too.
From Wikipedia.
"United States President Barack Obama spoke to the debate between Black Lives Matter and All Lives Matter.[138] Obama said, "I think that the reason that the organizers used the phrase Black Lives Matter was not because they were suggesting that no one else's lives matter ... rather what they were suggesting was there is a specific problem that is happening in the African American community that's not happening in other communities." He also said "that is a legitimate issue that we've got to address." "
From Wikipedia.
"United States President Barack Obama spoke to the debate between Black Lives Matter and All Lives Matter.[138] Obama said, "I think that the reason that the organizers used the phrase Black Lives Matter was not because they were suggesting that no one else's lives matter ... rather what they were suggesting was there is a specific problem that is happening in the African American community that's not happening in other communities." He also said "that is a legitimate issue that we've got to address." "
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If you think about the campaign in a positive manner rather assuming the worst about people then the "too" is implicit.
(btw, there's no such thing as reverse racism. It's just racism)
#6
So I was watching a protest just now on CBC were Wynne was stood amonst "Black Lives Matter" protesters.
Can anyone explain why only black lives matter? Is this not like reverse racism? Sammy Yatim wasn't black what about his life?
I know it's about police v minority's but black people are not the only ones, what about the rest of the comunity!!
Should it not be a "civilian lives matter demonstration" ?
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...rotesters.html
Can anyone explain why only black lives matter? Is this not like reverse racism? Sammy Yatim wasn't black what about his life?
I know it's about police v minority's but black people are not the only ones, what about the rest of the comunity!!
Should it not be a "civilian lives matter demonstration" ?
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...rotesters.html
Its because in the US black lives don’t matter and have never mattered. They've been and continue to be, a brutalized, subjugated and tortured people. Historically white lives have mattered whereas black ones haven't. To even suggest that the two (white and black lives in the US) are comparable shows at best a scant understanding of the reality . . .
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Lets make sure we keep it civilised peeps...
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Its because in the US black lives don’t matter and have never mattered. They've been and continue to be, a brutalized, subjugated and tortured people. Historically white lives have mattered whereas black ones haven't. To even suggest that the two (white and black lives in the US) are comparable shows at best a scant understanding of the reality . . .
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Surely the problem is that visual and identifiable minorities do matter tremendously as they serve a central role as the ones we wish to vilify and blame for our socio economic woes. I've never spent much time in the warmer near Mexico bits of the States, but I believe the Mexicans are very poorly regarded there and not just by Trump.
I don't like the term 'Black lives Matter' either. 'People Matter' might be adopted in North America gererally, but they don't....'normal' black, white, indigenous men and particularly women are poorly regarded individually unless they have money, or are loud and energetic enough to defend themselves. It's a shame there isn't a magic wand that could homogenize the lot of us, one sex only, and then we'd be bound to get along, wouldn't we
North American policing in general seems appalling, but I suppose we only hear the bad bits, I really hope there might be good bits too?
I don't like the term 'Black lives Matter' either. 'People Matter' might be adopted in North America gererally, but they don't....'normal' black, white, indigenous men and particularly women are poorly regarded individually unless they have money, or are loud and energetic enough to defend themselves. It's a shame there isn't a magic wand that could homogenize the lot of us, one sex only, and then we'd be bound to get along, wouldn't we

North American policing in general seems appalling, but I suppose we only hear the bad bits, I really hope there might be good bits too?
#11
My interactions with US law enforcement officers whilst holidaying stateside have been always been very pleasant and they were highly professional and courteous. That being said I am male, pale, middle class and unfailingly polite to armed men. If that was not the case my experience may have been different.
#12
Police not happy with our beloved premier
Quote from this mornings Toronto Sun
The premier responded to a woman’s shouts of “anti-black†systematic “racismâ€
McCormack said police officers want to know which provincial department she is referring to.
“Is it her department?†asked McCormack. “Is the racism in another provincial department? Or does she mean the Toronto Police?â€
Quote from this mornings Toronto Sun
The premier responded to a woman’s shouts of “anti-black†systematic “racismâ€
McCormack said police officers want to know which provincial department she is referring to.
“Is it her department?†asked McCormack. “Is the racism in another provincial department? Or does she mean the Toronto Police?â€
#13
Police not happy with our beloved premier
Quote from this mornings Toronto Sun
The premier responded to a woman’s shouts of “anti-black†systematic “racismâ€
McCormack said police officers want to know which provincial department she is referring to.
“Is it her department?†asked McCormack. “Is the racism in another provincial department? Or does she mean the Toronto Police?â€
Quote from this mornings Toronto Sun
The premier responded to a woman’s shouts of “anti-black†systematic “racismâ€
McCormack said police officers want to know which provincial department she is referring to.
“Is it her department?†asked McCormack. “Is the racism in another provincial department? Or does she mean the Toronto Police?â€
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#15
Oink is quite correct in his observations. Blunt but true.
When I was young I met with some americans in a pub when I was with some asian friends. Their description of how they had to look after their 'child like' black fellow americans betrayed an unquestioned feeling of superiority ,an unchanged legacy of slavery.
My interpretation of observed events shows that such views haven't changed a great deal since.
When I was young I met with some americans in a pub when I was with some asian friends. Their description of how they had to look after their 'child like' black fellow americans betrayed an unquestioned feeling of superiority ,an unchanged legacy of slavery.
My interpretation of observed events shows that such views haven't changed a great deal since.



