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Old Apr 4th 2016 | 10:37 am
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So I was watching a protest just now on CBC were Wynne was stood amonst "Black Lives Matter" protesters.

Can anyone explain why only black lives matter? Is this not like reverse racism? Sammy Yatim wasn't black what about his life?

I know it's about police v minority's but black people are not the only ones, what about the rest of the comunity!!

Should it not be a "civilian lives matter demonstration" ?

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...rotesters.html
 
Old Apr 4th 2016 | 1:23 pm
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Nothing in BLM says that other lives don't matter too.

From Wikipedia.

"United States President Barack Obama spoke to the debate between Black Lives Matter and All Lives Matter.[138] Obama said, "I think that the reason that the organizers used the phrase Black Lives Matter was not because they were suggesting that no one else's lives matter ... rather what they were suggesting was there is a specific problem that is happening in the African American community that's not happening in other communities." He also said "that is a legitimate issue that we've got to address." "
 
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It's not "Only Black Lives Matter", rather "Black Lives Matter Too".
 
Old Apr 4th 2016 | 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
It's not "Only Black Lives Matter", rather "Black Lives Matter Too".
The hash tag #BLMTO u mean? The TO means Toronto

I do agree tho that Black Lives Matter Too would be a better slogan.
 
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
It's not "Only Black Lives Matter", rather "Black Lives Matter Too".
This.

Originally Posted by magnumpi
I do agree tho that Black Lives Matter Too would be a better slogan.
If you think about the campaign in a positive manner rather assuming the worst about people then the "too" is implicit.

(btw, there's no such thing as reverse racism. It's just racism)
 
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Default Re: Black lives matter

Originally Posted by magnumpi
So I was watching a protest just now on CBC were Wynne was stood amonst "Black Lives Matter" protesters.

Can anyone explain why only black lives matter? Is this not like reverse racism? Sammy Yatim wasn't black what about his life?

I know it's about police v minority's but black people are not the only ones, what about the rest of the comunity!!

Should it not be a "civilian lives matter demonstration" ?

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/...rotesters.html

Its because in the US black lives don’t matter and have never mattered. They've been and continue to be, a brutalized, subjugated and tortured people. Historically white lives have mattered whereas black ones haven't. To even suggest that the two (white and black lives in the US) are comparable shows at best a scant understanding of the reality . . .

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Lets make sure we keep it civilised peeps...

 
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Lets make sure we keep it civilised peeps...

Fair enough. I'm not racist some of my best friends are white.
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
Its because in the US black lives don’t matter and have never mattered. They've been and continue to be, a brutalized, subjugated and tortured people. Historically white lives have mattered whereas black ones haven't. To even suggest that the two (white and black lives in the US) are comparable shows at best a scant understanding of the reality . . .
This actually makes sense, I presumed it's more a response to the US division regarding black and white folks. So why did Wynne came out and agree that Toronto had issues. Is it getting that bad here too?
 
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Surely the problem is that visual and identifiable minorities do matter tremendously as they serve a central role as the ones we wish to vilify and blame for our socio economic woes. I've never spent much time in the warmer near Mexico bits of the States, but I believe the Mexicans are very poorly regarded there and not just by Trump.

I don't like the term 'Black lives Matter' either. 'People Matter' might be adopted in North America gererally, but they don't....'normal' black, white, indigenous men and particularly women are poorly regarded individually unless they have money, or are loud and energetic enough to defend themselves. It's a shame there isn't a magic wand that could homogenize the lot of us, one sex only, and then we'd be bound to get along, wouldn't we

North American policing in general seems appalling, but I suppose we only hear the bad bits, I really hope there might be good bits too?
 
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Originally Posted by MillieF
North American policing in general seems appalling, but I suppose we only hear the bad bits, I really hope there might be good bits too?
My interactions with US law enforcement officers whilst holidaying stateside have been always been very pleasant and they were highly professional and courteous. That being said I am male, pale, middle class and unfailingly polite to armed men. If that was not the case my experience may have been different.
 
Old Apr 5th 2016 | 12:37 am
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Police not happy with our beloved premier

Quote from this mornings Toronto Sun

The premier responded to a woman’s shouts of “anti-black” systematic “racism”
McCormack said police officers want to know which provincial department she is referring to.
“Is it her department?” asked McCormack. “Is the racism in another provincial department? Or does she mean the Toronto Police?”
 
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Police not happy with our beloved premier

Quote from this mornings Toronto Sun

The premier responded to a woman’s shouts of “anti-black” systematic “racism”
McCormack said police officers want to know which provincial department she is referring to.
“Is it her department?” asked McCormack. “Is the racism in another provincial department? Or does she mean the Toronto Police?”
I'm sure she means the Toronto police. That organization is demonstrably systematically racist, as evidenced by McCormack's strong opposition to any reform of the carding rules, and his ludicrous comments after the Forcillo verdict that seemed to indicate that he thought preventing officers from murdering innocent civilians would somehow prevent them from doing their jobs properly. The man's a liability to the Toronto police service, so anything anybody can do to make him look even more of a prick is, IMO, a good thing.
 
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Fair enough. I'm not racist some of my best friends are white.
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Oink is quite correct in his observations. Blunt but true.
When I was young I met with some americans in a pub when I was with some asian friends. Their description of how they had to look after their 'child like' black fellow americans betrayed an unquestioned feeling of superiority ,an unchanged legacy of slavery.
My interpretation of observed events shows that such views haven't changed a great deal since.
 


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