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-   The Maple Leaf (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/)
-   -   Bizzare Tragedy in New Brunswick (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/bizzare-tragedy-new-brunswick-805155/)

chris955 Aug 10th 2013 12:29 am
Re: Bizzare Tragedy in New Brunswick
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10843825)
Ah, it's UtopianChris...I didn't recognise you (in the Maple Leaf). G'day. It does seem that there is more to the snake story than at first glance. Is the cause of childrens' death known? Do you think the python did anything at all or was it just placed in the room?
Obviously Im not privvy to exact details of the case but at worst I would have thought the boys could have been bitten by the snake as the species can be aggressive but to constrict 2 'animals' and not bite is virtually unheard of.

bats Aug 10th 2013 12:36 am
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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10844019)
Obviously Im not privvy to exact details of the case but at worst I would have thought the boys could have been bitten by the snake as the species can be aggressive but to constrict 2 'animals' and not bite is virtually unheard of.
The post mortems say the children were asphyxiated,, no bites.

chris955 Aug 10th 2013 12:41 am
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Originally Posted by bats (Post 10844028)
The post mortems say the children were asphyxiated,, no bites.
Yes, no bites which is just not possible. A constrictor holds its prey with its teeth to subdue it and then wraps around it to kill it. I really hope this isnt just accepted as death by snake because it just doesnt add up.

Shard Aug 10th 2013 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10844038)
Yes, no bites which is just not possible. A constrictor holds its prey with its teeth to subdue it and then wraps around it to kill it. I really hope this isnt just accepted as death by snake because it just doesnt add up.
One thing that certainly does not add up is that there were two kids. A double constriction seems unlikely.

bats Aug 10th 2013 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10844038)
Yes, no bites which is just not possible. A constrictor holds its prey with its teeth to subdue it and then wraps around it to kill it. I really hope this isnt just accepted as death by snake because it just doesnt add up.
One account said that the snake might just have been curled up on them in a warm place with no intent to make them diNner. The children would not have been strong enough to get out.

I have no idea, as a snake phobic this gives me the heeby jeebies.

chris955 Aug 13th 2013 8:05 pm
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No surprise to me.
http://www.fox.com.au/fox-news-feed/...investigation/

BristolUK Aug 14th 2013 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10849973)
No surprise to me.
A cover up for something else came to mind quite early, but there is absolutely zero in that report to justify the heading.

Nothing on CBC to suggest it yet.

caretaker Aug 14th 2013 2:48 am
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Just because it's on Fox News, and the story is coming from the other side of the world while the 2 major Canadian news services don't have anything like that in their current updates for Atlantic Canada news yet, I'm sceptical. Fox news is famous for sensationalism and sometimes just making things up.
I just checked foxnews.com and it still says 'Boys Killed By Python' - slow news day in Oz. Never believe Fox, and take CNN with a grain of salt, they've both been caught fabricating news in the past.

caretaker Aug 14th 2013 5:31 am
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My apologies, I've been quite distracted lately and didn't look at the link closely. Dodgey Fox FM radio station somewhere in Australia made this up, not dodgey Fox News. They don't even bother trying to give a source. The family should sue this station big time.

allegra Aug 14th 2013 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 10841854)
Reading the most recent article (which i think is what you are referring to), it seems the authorities took their eye off the ball when the place reverted to a pet shop.

They didn't check that the animals which had formed the collection were assessed and any which were not suitable for a private individual or for public sale were suitably relocated.

Had they done so, this wouldn't have happened.
Good to read your very well put posts. You seem to have a great love for animals.

Nobody has mentioned what a dump the place looked. The exterior was bad enough, one has to wonder what the interior was like and what conditions these poor animals were kept in. The interior was described as "cluttery". Think that was a euphemism.

AllyS Aug 14th 2013 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 10837909)
Such creatures are highly dangerous and there should be a country wide ban on selling and/or breeding them. While such situations are few and far between, thank goodness, just once is once too many. On this morning's news the town's mayor said the council has looked at the existence of such a store before and it looked like it would need to revisit the situation.
Too little too late for two little boys and their parents.
+1 Auld Yin - I also think its absolutely crazy to keep these kind of reptiles. I have watched so many programs/documentaries about them, and seen them in snake farms (Far East and Africa) and they frighten the life out of me.

chris955 Aug 14th 2013 5:16 pm
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So you are saying because they frighten the life out of you then it is crazy to allow others that arent frightened by them and are knowledgable and responsible to keep them? Those of us who understand how these animals work know that the chances of that snake having done what is suggested are practically zero.

Tramps_mate Aug 14th 2013 6:59 pm
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My friend has 7-8 constrictors. The largest is about 12 feet long. Frightening what they could do to a child!

Buuuut, it's looked well questionable since the story broke. No bites, no screams etc etc..


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