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JonboyE Apr 17th 2013 8:14 am

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 10664644)
Liberals ... If they get in, expect more wasteful spending, lack of any sort of progress, etc.

... Whenever the Liberals get low on money, they always turn to the taxpayer to raise more, instead of first looking to cut the inefficiencies ...

I am not sure anyone in the public sector would agree.

The BC Cons are an irrelevance as a political force. However, they will split the right of centre vote and allow the NDP an even easier victory.

ExKiwilass Apr 17th 2013 8:26 am

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by ArthurBrit (Post 10664864)
Make sure you have your bottle of Stella with you and are wearing your wife beater! Otherwise it's not as effective.

meh, that's more a white trash thing not a Con thing.

He should do it wearing a suit looking like he's just come from a meeting berating minions and earning the wage that keeps the little wife in clothes. That's more how the Cons roll :thumbup:

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 17th 2013 12:41 pm

Re: BC Election
 
If I could vote, I would vote NDP as they are the only party likely to do anything for low income folks.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 17th 2013 12:43 pm

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 10664470)
are you sure you're not eligible to vote? I thought PRs were for provincial elections, it's the just the federal ones we don't want you lot voting in.

I've been on the fence cos none of them appeal, but I've finally decided based on the pipeline.

Nope, gotta be a citizen to vote in provincial elections according to the BC Elections website.

ExKiwilass Apr 17th 2013 1:24 pm

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 10665307)
If I could vote, I would vote NDP as they are the only party likely to do anything for low income folks.

:thumbup:

ExKiwilass Apr 17th 2013 1:24 pm

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 10665310)
Nope, gotta be a citizen to vote in provincial elections according to the BC Elections website.

Ah, maybe it's municipal I'm thinking of.

Aviator Apr 17th 2013 2:47 pm

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 10665307)
If I could vote, I would vote NDP as they are the only party likely to do anything for low income folks.

But in the process damage business as they did last time they were in. If business moves out of BC or does not flourish fewer jobs. Fewer jobs equals a lower tax base, which means less money for social programs or higher taxes for everyone else.

Then there was the $400m the last NDP govt. spent on ferries that did not work (which they were told before they had them built). That's $400m that could have gone to social programs!

Now we'd all be better off if we'd kept HST, but a minority of voters opted to get rid of it and we're all paying higher taxes. Effective rate of 14% on most things we buy than than food. We could have had 10% HST.

adele Apr 17th 2013 3:00 pm

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 10664470)
are you sure you're not eligible to vote? I thought PRs were for provincial elections, it's the just the federal ones we don't want you lot voting in.

I've been on the fence cos none of them appeal, but I've finally decided based on the pipeline.

You have to be a citizen:

http://www.elections.bc.ca/index.php.../#requirements

Inse Apr 17th 2013 4:39 pm

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 10665440)
But in the process damage business as they did last time they were in. If business moves out of BC or does not flourish fewer jobs. Fewer jobs equals a lower tax base, which means less money for social programs or higher taxes for everyone else.

Then there was the $400m the last NDP govt. spent on ferries that did not work (which they were told before they had them built). That's $400m that could have gone to social programs!

Now we'd all be better off if we'd kept HST, but a minority of voters opted to get rid of it and we're all paying higher taxes. Effective rate of 14% on most things we buy than than food. We could have had 10% HST.

This is the first time I am able to vote since I arrived here but have always taken a reasonably keen eye on things political.
I am amazed how much traction is given to "the last time they were in". I admit I was not here then, but have looked at things now, and really can't see the difference between say the $400m spent on ferries and the debacle of the BC Place roof or the willful bankrupting of BC Hydro. I don't honestly see how anyone can say the last ten years or so under the Liberals has turned out any better than the last spell of the NDP.
Times move on and change, as do people.
My politics would put me, probably, in a light blue conservative camp. Encourage business to make a profit and re-invest in their staff etc, but not to the complete detriment of those who genuinely need help to get through life. Most of my working life I have been self employed and often created a few jobs, so I think I have some experience of this.
I totally agree with the HST sentiment. If this had been debated and explained fully at the time I think it would still be in place. The referendum turned into a 'let's give the government a beating' and the outcome was the same as cut of the nose to spite the face. The referendum should have been to change the HST, not to do away with it.
As far as my vote this time, well not entirely sure yet other than to say it will most definitely not be for the Liberals. I think they must be the most corrupt bunch of people ever put in charge of anything, and Christy Clark seems to have no idea at all as to what she is doing, a complete air head if ever there was one. They all, along with the federal Conservatives, don't seem to grasp the concept of democracy at all.

Hawk13 Apr 18th 2013 3:02 am

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10664424)
Usually it's just rhetoric when people say that they are all shit. But in this case I think it's actually true. I'm not eligable to vote, but if I was I couldn't see myself voting for any of them.

Agreed and I am allowed to vote.

I'll start voting again when there is a party I'd like to see win instead of voting for to keep a party out of power. They are all a bunch of lying wankers.

Liberals & Christy = simply incompetent
NDP & Dix = there's goes the economy and seriously you make that guy the leader of your party
Green Party & ?? = a little too much tree hugging for me
Conservatives & ?? = the lesser of the other wankers?

Former Lancastrian Apr 18th 2013 3:15 am

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10666342)
Agreed and I am allowed to vote.

I'll start voting again when there is a party I'd like to see win instead of voting for to keep a party out of power. They are all a bunch of lying wankers.

Liberals & Christy = simply incompetent
NDP & Dix = there's goes the economy and seriously you make that guy the leader of your party
Green Party & ?? = a little too much tree hugging for me
Conservatives & ?? = the lesser of the other wankers?

So basically BC is ****ed then;)

ExKiwilass Apr 18th 2013 3:30 am

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 10665440)
But in the process damage business as they did last time they were in. If business moves out of BC or does not flourish fewer jobs. Fewer jobs equals a lower tax base, which means less money for social programs or higher taxes for everyone else.

Then there was the $400m the last NDP govt. spent on ferries that did not work (which they were told before they had them built). That's $400m that could have gone to social programs!

Now we'd all be better off if we'd kept HST, but a minority of voters opted to get rid of it and we're all paying higher taxes. Effective rate of 14% on most things we buy than than food. We could have had 10% HST.

That was a long time ago.

Libs have spent plenty of money on useless shit too.

Londonuck Apr 18th 2013 4:15 am

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 10664644)
Liberals have been in power too long, so their becoming lazy and incompetent. If they get in, expect more wasteful spending, lack of any sort of progress, etc.

The NDP are in the pockets of the unions, if they get in power expect more strikes, more union actions. I have no idea what their policies are as Adrian Dix never makes it clear.

For the Conservatives, they're the only party I agree with the most when it comes to most of their policies. Whenever the Liberals get low on money, they always turn to the taxpayer to raise more, instead of first looking to cut the inefficiencies, and the Conservatives have been criticizing that approach, in addition to much of the Liberals other wasteful spending. Also, one of their candidates is Ian Tootill, who I am familiar with as he runs SENSE BC, an organization that campaigns to raise the speed limits to international standards, which I think most people on here will agree is something that needs to be done. I don't feel like they are particularly backwards, not sure why people have gotten that impression - the federal cons are definitely a bit backwards when it comes to social policy but I'm not sure if the BC cons would be the same way.

Even though the NDP are riding high in the polls right now, it's pretty much a negative-vote against the Liberals. I expect when people get in that voting booth, they are going to go "what am I voting for again?" and just fall back to the Libs.

Thats NDP for me then. :)

Oink Apr 18th 2013 4:19 am

Re: BC Election
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 10665307)
If I could vote, I would vote NDP as they are the only party likely to do anything for low income folks.

Is that the role of a provincial/state government?

JonboyE Apr 18th 2013 4:38 am

Re: BC Election
 
Welfare, access to healthcare, and social and community services are all delivered by the provincial government.


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