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BC Election
I'm guessing there might be around 2 people who care.
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Usually it's just rhetoric when people say that they are all shit. But in this case I think it's actually true. I'm not eligable to vote, but if I was I couldn't see myself voting for any of them.
Christy = incompetent Dix = slimey crook Cummins = arsehole Green Party Lasy whose name I've forgot = god no. |
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Im not one of them :lol: The residents of BC will decide the rest of us dont give a rats ass. BTW what choices do you have and which previous parties have done well in BC?
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I'd vote Conservative mainly because they'd be a lot funnier and might do something about the liquor control board if pressed. But they don't have a hope in hell getting in out here on the looney left coast.
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10664424)
Usually it's just rhetoric when people say that they are all shit. But in this case I think it's actually true. I'm not eligable to vote, but if I was I couldn't see myself voting for any of them.
Christy = incompetent Dix = slimey crook Cummins = arsehole Green Party Lasy whose name I've forgot = god no. I've been on the fence cos none of them appeal, but I've finally decided based on the pipeline. |
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Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10664449)
I'd vote Conservative mainly because they'd be a lot funnier and might do something about the liquor control board if pressed. But they don't have a hope in hell getting in out here on the looney left coast.
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 10664427)
Im not one of them :lol: The residents of BC will decide the rest of us dont give a rats ass. BTW what choices do you have and which previous parties have done well in BC?
NDP - terrifying but the only real option for change Green - a nice idea but never gonna happen Conservatives - terrifying and never gonna happen. |
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So how does BC plan on eliminating the 57 BILLION in debt it currently has?
Answers on the back of a postage stamp please. |
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664473)
Libs - corrupt, been in power too long, everyone's sick of them
NDP - terrifying but the only real option for change Green - a nice idea but never gonna happen Conservatives - terrifying and never gonna happen. |
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Libs - corrupt, been in power too long, everyone's sick of them - Probably wouldn't get too much worse
NDP - terrifying but the only real option for change - If you think death by a thousand taxes is bad now, then just naffing wait if them a mandate. Green - a nice idea but never gonna happen - Stop hugging things ffs Conservatives - terrifying and never gonna happen. - Loonies |
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Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10664483)
Libs - corrupt, been in power too long, everyone's sick of them - Probably wouldn't get too much worse
NDP - terrifying but the only real option for change - If you think death by a thousand taxes is bad now, then just naffing wait if them a mandate. Green - a nice idea but never gonna happen - Stop hugging things ffs Conservatives - terrifying and never gonna happen. - Loonies BTW, the cbc has a good link where you can see where your political beliefs stack up against the party platforms. Allegedly I'm 78% Green. :blink: |
Re: BC Election
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 10664478)
So how does BC plan on eliminating the 57 BILLION in debt it currently has?
Answers on the back of a postage stamp please. |
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10664481)
What are they all campaigning on?
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664488)
I don't care about taxes. I know people get all whipped up about it, but I couldn't give a shit. I'm all for a bit of the old distribution of wealth :thumbup: It's other stuff I get worked up about - yeah, like liquor, drugs, pipelines...
BTW, the cbc has a good link where you can see where your political beliefs stack up against the party platforms. Allegedly I'm 78% Green. :blink: |
Re: BC Election
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10664481)
What are they all campaigning on?
Libs - keep us in cos all the alternatives suck NDP - vote for us cos we're not the Libs Green - pipelines and tankers booo Conservatives - the 1950's were the high point of civilisation, let's bring them back. |
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Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10664490)
For a start, raise the class sizes to at least 38 and cut a third of the teachers, all of the school counsellors, all the VP's, all the teacher aides and make parents pay for the extra services for their special needs children [watch how many kids miraculously disappear off "the spectrum", then].
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Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10664497)
Fair enough, tax the rich but they take the piss with all their hidden sales taxes which disproportionally target the poor.
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 10664478)
So how does BC plan on eliminating the 57 BILLION in debt it currently has?
Answers on the back of a postage stamp please.
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664488)
I don't care about taxes. I know people get all whipped up about it, but I couldn't give a shit. I'm all for a bit of the old distribution of wealth :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 10664603)
It doesn't need to. Eliminating the deficit is important, the debt not so much.
Me too. The difficulty is in creating the wealth to distribute. We are in a region of low tax jurisdictions so if we don't remain competitive tax-wise then business will just up sticks and move. |
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664501)
I don't really know.
Libs - keep us in cos all the alternatives suck NDP - vote for us cos we're not the Libs Green - pipelines and tankers booo Conservatives - the 1950's were the high point of civilisation, let's bring them back. |
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Liberals have been in power too long, so their becoming lazy and incompetent. If they get in, expect more wasteful spending, lack of any sort of progress, etc.
The NDP are in the pockets of the unions, if they get in power expect more strikes, more union actions. I have no idea what their policies are as Adrian Dix never makes it clear. For the Conservatives, they're the only party I agree with the most when it comes to most of their policies. Whenever the Liberals get low on money, they always turn to the taxpayer to raise more, instead of first looking to cut the inefficiencies, and the Conservatives have been criticizing that approach, in addition to much of the Liberals other wasteful spending. Also, one of their candidates is Ian Tootill, who I am familiar with as he runs SENSE BC, an organization that campaigns to raise the speed limits to international standards, which I think most people on here will agree is something that needs to be done. I don't feel like they are particularly backwards, not sure why people have gotten that impression - the federal cons are definitely a bit backwards when it comes to social policy but I'm not sure if the BC cons would be the same way. Even though the NDP are riding high in the polls right now, it's pretty much a negative-vote against the Liberals. I expect when people get in that voting booth, they are going to go "what am I voting for again?" and just fall back to the Libs. |
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Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 10664644)
I don't feel like they are particularly backwards, not sure why people have gotten that impression - the federal cons are definitely a bit backwards when it comes to social policy but I'm not sure if the BC cons would be the same way.
Even though the NDP are riding high in the polls right now, it's pretty much a negative-vote against the Liberals. I expect when people get in that voting booth, they are going to go "what am I voting for again?" and just fall back to the Libs. |
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Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 10664644)
Liberals have been in power too long, so their becoming lazy and incompetent. If they get in, expect more wasteful spending, lack of any sort of progress, etc.
The NDP are in the pockets of the unions, if they get in power expect more strikes, more union actions. I have no idea what their policies are as Adrian Dix never makes it clear. For the Conservatives, they're the only party I agree with the most when it comes to most of their policies. Whenever the Liberals get low on money, they always turn to the taxpayer to raise more, instead of first looking to cut the inefficiencies, and the Conservatives have been criticizing that approach, in addition to much of the Liberals other wasteful spending. Also, one of their candidates is Ian Tootill, who I am familiar with as he runs SENSE BC, an organization that campaigns to raise the speed limits to international standards, which I think most people on here will agree is something that needs to be done. I don't feel like they are particularly backwards, not sure why people have gotten that impression - the federal cons are definitely a bit backwards when it comes to social policy but I'm not sure if the BC cons would be the same way. Even though the NDP are riding high in the polls right now, it's pretty much a negative-vote against the Liberals. I expect when people get in that voting booth, they are going to go "what am I voting for again?" and just fall back to the Libs. |
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664670)
Oh yes they do, they've just had to damp it down a lot for this electorate. I know some BC Conservative supporters and they are very much on the traditional values side of things.
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 10664603)
It doesn't need to. Eliminating the deficit is important, the debt not so much.
Me too. The difficulty is in creating the wealth to distribute. We are in a region of low tax jurisdictions so if we don't remain competitive tax-wise then business will just up sticks and move. |
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10664715)
I'm all for redistribution of wealth too. As long as it's not mine :frown:
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Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10664708)
I suppose that depends on whose and what tradition.
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664835)
Judeo-christian, traditional family roles, etc.
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Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10664851)
We could do with a bit of that in our house as HID can't cook for shite so subsequently don't. :thumbdown:
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Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 10664851)
We could do with a bit of that in our house as HID can't cook for shite so subsequently don't. :thumbdown:
Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664861)
slap her around a bit then read her some St Paul. She'll get the message. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy
(Post 10664644)
Liberals ... If they get in, expect more wasteful spending, lack of any sort of progress, etc.
... Whenever the Liberals get low on money, they always turn to the taxpayer to raise more, instead of first looking to cut the inefficiencies ... The BC Cons are an irrelevance as a political force. However, they will split the right of centre vote and allow the NDP an even easier victory. |
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Originally Posted by ArthurBrit
(Post 10664864)
Make sure you have your bottle of Stella with you and are wearing your wife beater! Otherwise it's not as effective.
He should do it wearing a suit looking like he's just come from a meeting berating minions and earning the wage that keeps the little wife in clothes. That's more how the Cons roll :thumbup: |
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If I could vote, I would vote NDP as they are the only party likely to do anything for low income folks.
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664470)
are you sure you're not eligible to vote? I thought PRs were for provincial elections, it's the just the federal ones we don't want you lot voting in.
I've been on the fence cos none of them appeal, but I've finally decided based on the pipeline. |
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 10665307)
If I could vote, I would vote NDP as they are the only party likely to do anything for low income folks.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 10665310)
Nope, gotta be a citizen to vote in provincial elections according to the BC Elections website.
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 10665307)
If I could vote, I would vote NDP as they are the only party likely to do anything for low income folks.
Then there was the $400m the last NDP govt. spent on ferries that did not work (which they were told before they had them built). That's $400m that could have gone to social programs! Now we'd all be better off if we'd kept HST, but a minority of voters opted to get rid of it and we're all paying higher taxes. Effective rate of 14% on most things we buy than than food. We could have had 10% HST. |
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
(Post 10664470)
are you sure you're not eligible to vote? I thought PRs were for provincial elections, it's the just the federal ones we don't want you lot voting in.
I've been on the fence cos none of them appeal, but I've finally decided based on the pipeline. http://www.elections.bc.ca/index.php.../#requirements |
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Originally Posted by Aviator
(Post 10665440)
But in the process damage business as they did last time they were in. If business moves out of BC or does not flourish fewer jobs. Fewer jobs equals a lower tax base, which means less money for social programs or higher taxes for everyone else.
Then there was the $400m the last NDP govt. spent on ferries that did not work (which they were told before they had them built). That's $400m that could have gone to social programs! Now we'd all be better off if we'd kept HST, but a minority of voters opted to get rid of it and we're all paying higher taxes. Effective rate of 14% on most things we buy than than food. We could have had 10% HST. I am amazed how much traction is given to "the last time they were in". I admit I was not here then, but have looked at things now, and really can't see the difference between say the $400m spent on ferries and the debacle of the BC Place roof or the willful bankrupting of BC Hydro. I don't honestly see how anyone can say the last ten years or so under the Liberals has turned out any better than the last spell of the NDP. Times move on and change, as do people. My politics would put me, probably, in a light blue conservative camp. Encourage business to make a profit and re-invest in their staff etc, but not to the complete detriment of those who genuinely need help to get through life. Most of my working life I have been self employed and often created a few jobs, so I think I have some experience of this. I totally agree with the HST sentiment. If this had been debated and explained fully at the time I think it would still be in place. The referendum turned into a 'let's give the government a beating' and the outcome was the same as cut of the nose to spite the face. The referendum should have been to change the HST, not to do away with it. As far as my vote this time, well not entirely sure yet other than to say it will most definitely not be for the Liberals. I think they must be the most corrupt bunch of people ever put in charge of anything, and Christy Clark seems to have no idea at all as to what she is doing, a complete air head if ever there was one. They all, along with the federal Conservatives, don't seem to grasp the concept of democracy at all. |
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10664424)
Usually it's just rhetoric when people say that they are all shit. But in this case I think it's actually true. I'm not eligable to vote, but if I was I couldn't see myself voting for any of them.
I'll start voting again when there is a party I'd like to see win instead of voting for to keep a party out of power. They are all a bunch of lying wankers. Liberals & Christy = simply incompetent NDP & Dix = there's goes the economy and seriously you make that guy the leader of your party Green Party & ?? = a little too much tree hugging for me Conservatives & ?? = the lesser of the other wankers? |
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