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ultrarunner Aug 27th 2011 6:53 am

Back from the Arctic
 
Just got back from the arctic exercise, which was overshadowed by the unfortunate incident which some of you might have heard of in the news ( the plane crash ) :( Due to the current investigation, I can't post pics of the incident

Anyhoo...Here are some pics

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4558.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4559.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4561.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4554.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4491.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4468.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4418.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4368.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4377.jpg

ultrarunner Aug 27th 2011 6:54 am

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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4366.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4320.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4331.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4191.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4182.jpg

dbd33 Aug 27th 2011 6:58 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9585420)
Just got back from the arctic exercise, which was overshadowed by the unfortunate incident which some of you might have heard of in the news :(

You lot care about Jack Layton?

Essay Aug 27th 2011 7:18 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 
That must have been quite stressful, handling an actual plane crash instead of a mock up (and I appreciate that is an understatement). Thank you, for taking on essential work that must sometimes feel under-appreciated by the general public.

Lovely photos. The area looks both beautiful and sad.

ultrarunner Aug 27th 2011 7:34 am

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Originally Posted by Essay (Post 9585445)
That must have been quite stressful, handling an actual plane crash instead of a mock up (and I appreciate that is an understatement). Thank you, for taking on essential work that must sometimes feel under-appreciated by the general public.

Lovely photos. The area looks both beautiful and sad.

Thank you for the kind post. It was a sad incident indeed, and not something that anyone wants to witness or have happen to their loved ones. The response was very rapid. Resolute Bay has a population of 220 people

In the pics above, you can see the PM in the truck, and The Governor General in military CADPAT. I got to meet them both

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4437.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4410.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4354.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4307.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4184.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4189.jpg

Canadian Ranger

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4148.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4146.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...y/IMG_4210.jpg

Aviator Aug 27th 2011 7:48 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9585420)
Just got back from the arctic exercise, which was overshadowed by the unfortunate incident which some of you might have heard of in the news ( the plane crash ) :( Due to the current investigation, I can't post pics of the incident

Posting pics makes no difference to the investigation. Its not a military aircraft nor secret flight, Transport Canada conduct the investigation and the media post pics of air incidents all the time.

ultrarunner Aug 27th 2011 8:02 am

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Originally Posted by The Aviator (Post 9585469)
Posting pics makes no difference to the investigation. Its not a military aircraft nor secret flight, Transport Canada conduct the investigation and the media post pics of air incidents all the time.

True....but am talking about pics from the crash and the response, which the public hasn't seen yet. Transport and safety board are still in the area conducting their investigation.

el_richo Aug 27th 2011 11:33 am

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Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9585481)
True....but am talking about pics from the crash and the response, which the public hasn't seen yet. Transport and safety board are still in the area conducting their investigation.

I'll come back when you post some more interesting pictures then :frown:

Tangram Aug 28th 2011 7:38 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9585678)
I'll come back when you post some more interesting pictures then :frown:

+1 ( men in or out of uniform ain't my thing )

caretaker Aug 29th 2011 3:56 am

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I was struck by the contrast between the timeless things in the Arctic - the whale and walrus bone, the inukshuk, the landscape, and the trappings of a modern army like satellite dishes and huge portable buildings and especially that portable rpv launcher! Also by the difference in logistical support between the Rangers and southern troops. With the addition of maybe a satellite phone and some fuel drops the man on the ground with a quad or snowmobile and a Lee Enfield .303 covers a lot of area up there. They bring to mind the outposts of the NWMP and RCMP from the late 19th and early 20th centuries only with machines instead of dogs or horses and national defence instead of the law as a mandate.

jck Aug 29th 2011 5:58 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 
Looks like the surface of mars!:)

Gremmie Aug 29th 2011 6:58 am

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Where's the snow and ice:confused::confused:

iaink Aug 29th 2011 7:13 am

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9588679)
Where's the snow and ice:confused::confused:

Its summer;)




That and global warming is a real phenomenon, no matter what Glenn Beck says.

ann m Aug 29th 2011 7:13 am

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Well, I think your photos are good :p

The landscape is bleak as a bleak thing - and while bleak, it is also interesting and I shall not complain about prairie grassland ever again.

Gremmie - it's summer innit? ;)

Gremmie Aug 29th 2011 7:52 am

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Originally Posted by ann m (Post 9588712)
Well, I think your photos are good :p

The landscape is bleak as a bleak thing - and while bleak, it is also interesting and I shall not complain about prairie grassland ever again.

Gremmie - it's summer innit? ;)

The fact that its summer and no snow is very disturbing...:eek:
Looks like the OP had a glorified holiday up there, hope he doesn't call that work:huh:

Tuppence Aug 29th 2011 8:19 am

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9588679)
Where's the snow and ice:confused::confused:

That's what I thought. I know it's summer, but I really pictured the arctic to be a big floaty iceberg all year round.
I need to get out more!

GavinR Aug 29th 2011 9:35 am

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Looks like the OP had a glorified holiday up there, hope he doesn't call that work
Picking up bits of dead bodies doesn't sound much like a holiday to me.

Thanks for the pics OP, not something one gets to see very often.

Gremmie Aug 29th 2011 9:56 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by GavinR (Post 9588928)
Picking up bits of dead bodies doesn't sound much like a holiday to me.

Thanks for the pics OP, not something one gets to see very often.

He did not say he was picking up any dead bodies, you've assumed that.

GavinR Aug 29th 2011 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9588971)
He did not say he was picking up any dead bodies, you've assumed that.

Even seeing them is not particularly pleasant, not what I'd call a holiday.

Lord Vader Aug 29th 2011 10:58 am

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Resolute Bay is a tourism juggernaut. Millions pass through annually. The dozens of 5 star hotels are ranked among the most posh and chic in the world.

macadian Aug 29th 2011 11:00 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by GavinR (Post 9588991)
Even seeing them is not particularly pleasant, not what I'd call a holiday.

Indeed....where would be all be without our Brit Expats 'armchair warriors'.....:cool:

dbd33 Aug 29th 2011 11:15 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 9588971)
He did not say he was picking up any dead bodies, you've assumed that.

There are actual teams of body baggers who are flown to crash sites. Apparently there's a skill to collecting all the bits in the proper fashion and you can't trust that to any man in a uniform.

Greenhill Aug 29th 2011 11:35 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 
The RAF has their own team. I knew one of them. He and his co-workers apparently were "not liked very much" by the other flyers.


Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9589082)
Apparently there's a skill to collecting all the bits in the proper fashion and you can't trust that to any man in a uniform.


airbornesapper Aug 29th 2011 11:39 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9589082)
There are actual teams of body baggers who are flown to crash sites. Apparently there's a skill to collecting all the bits in the proper fashion and you can't trust that to any man in a uniform.

How wrong you are as per usual. Sure there are trained pers...and many who just get on with things as tasked.

For instance, many of the items (read into that what you want) from the 1998 Swiss Air disaster were picked up by Forces personnel (both on the water and along the shoreline).

The black box recovered from that crash was located and recovered by a friend and fellow paratrooper:

http://navydiver.ca/news/SixtyMetres...ordArticle.pdf

Greenhill Aug 29th 2011 11:42 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 
Thanks for taking the effort to post the photos.

Joking aside, that place reminded me of Sunderland.

But with technology.

Souvy Aug 29th 2011 10:49 pm

Re: Back from the Arctic
 
Why do the Rangers wear bright red? They don't exactly blend into the background.

dbd33 Aug 29th 2011 11:45 pm

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by airbornesapper (Post 9589124)
How wrong you are as per usual. Sure there are trained pers...and many who just get on with things as tasked.

For instance, many of the items (read into that what you want) from the 1998 Swiss Air disaster were picked up by Forces personnel (both on the water and along the shoreline).

The black box recovered from that crash was located and recovered by a friend and fellow paratrooper:

http://navydiver.ca/news/SixtyMetres...ordArticle.pdf

Well, sure, if a government doesn't have people on hand with the skills for a task, they call in the army. Collecting wreckage, clearing Toronto's snow, that's the sort of odd job that justifies keeping a standing army.

macadian Aug 30th 2011 12:52 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9590044)
Well, sure, if a government doesn't have people on hand with the skills for a task, they call in the army. Collecting wreckage, clearing Toronto's snow, that's the sort of odd job that justifies keeping a standing army.

What utter nonsense!

Obvious to most I am sure...but to one at least, it is not...:cool:

ultrarunner Aug 30th 2011 6:48 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by ann m (Post 9588712)
Well, I think your photos are good :p

The landscape is bleak as a bleak thing - and while bleak, it is also interesting and I shall not complain about prairie grassland ever again.

Gremmie - it's summer innit? ;)


Thank you very much for the comments....I am glad I took the DSLR camera, and I'll be sure to post more pics. The launcher mentioned in another post was to launch a UAV ( scan eagle that is capable of 24hr fly time ) and the live feed pictures are just mind blowing on the big screen.

The crash meant we couldn't go ahead with the MAJAID ( major air disaster ) that we had planned, for a couple of days later. The 24hr daylight was sure interesting, coming out of the tent at 2 or 2am with the sun still out.

The lanscape is bleak as you mentioned, not a tree in sight or flowers for that matter.

Oink Aug 30th 2011 7:00 am

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Were there any decent pubs about?

JonboyE Aug 30th 2011 7:03 am

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Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 9589126)
Joking aside, that place reminded me of Sunderland.

That is harsh. The arctic is nowhere near as bleak as Sunderland.

ann m Aug 30th 2011 7:08 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9590787)
The crash meant we couldn't go ahead with the MAJAID ( major air disaster ) that we had planned,

I figure you got a slightly more real-life experience than a choreographed exercise though?

JamesM Aug 30th 2011 7:14 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9590811)
Were there any decent pubs about?

Now we are talking.

I will take this opportunity to also ask what the selection of cheese was like up there.

Gremmie Aug 30th 2011 7:34 am

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can I buy Marmite and Ribena:rofl::rofl:

Jingsamichty Aug 30th 2011 7:36 am

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I'm surprised that the military seems to be so more relaxed about its personnel taking cameras along on exercise, and posting photographs taken on exercise on the internet.

Gremmie Aug 30th 2011 7:44 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9590890)
I'm surprised that the military seems to be so more relaxed about its personnel taking cameras along on exercise, and posting photographs taken on exercise on the internet.

Me too,mind you photos of the army holiday cant be bad for recruiting:rofl:
"Join the Army and feel a man , wear a red waterproof whilst quading around Sunderland":rofl:

Alan2005 Aug 30th 2011 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9590890)
I'm surprised that the military seems to be so more relaxed about its personnel taking cameras along on exercise, and posting photographs taken on exercise on the internet.

Yes, but it's a fancy DSLR. Can't you tell by the composition and lighting?

Oink Aug 30th 2011 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9590920)
Yes, but it's a fancy DSLR. Can't you tell by the composition and lighting?


That's one of those expensive cameras, isn't it?

Jingsamichty Aug 30th 2011 7:56 am

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Maybe it's a taxpayers camera.

Almost Canadian Aug 30th 2011 8:26 am

Re: Back from the Arctic
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9590787)
Thank you very much for the comments....I am glad I took the DSLR camera, and I'll be sure to post more pics. The launcher mentioned in another post was to launch a UAV ( scan eagle that is capable of 24hr fly time ) and the live feed pictures are just mind blowing on the big screen.

The crash meant we couldn't go ahead with the MAJAID ( major air disaster ) that we had planned, for a couple of days later. The 24hr daylight was sure interesting, coming out of the tent at 2 or 2am with the sun still out.

The lanscape is bleak as you mentioned, not a tree in sight or flowers for that matter.

I have to admit to being amazed that special forces are involved with the aftermath of an air disaster, unless, of course, it is anticipated that the survivors will all be terrorists. One lives and learns;)


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