Anyone watch the debate last night?
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She apparently went some way towards redeeming herslf in last night's debate, according to the news this morning.
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I think they hold stronger standards than that if you're running for chair of a school board of governers, never mind the second-most powerful person in the USA.
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Thats debatable. Constitutionally the VP has bugger all to do and very little influence. John Garner (FDRs VP, 1933-41) memorably described his elevated office as being "not worth a bucket of warm piss"
However, should the president become incapacitated, then its a short steep elevation to power.....
However, should the president become incapacitated, then its a short steep elevation to power.....
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There is obviously arty things in urban areas but the notion of art as an urban activity is a limited, don't you think?
For instance, there is an exhibit at the Canadian Museum of Civilization of Folk Art from Quebec - it's very rural in its content (and wonderfully whimsical).
Also, a lot of potters, painters, sculptors, writers, etc... live where it's cheap to live and where they can do their art ... ie, where there is space, peace and/or where one doesn't have so many bylaw restrictions (pottery kiln, paint fumes, etc).
Just look at local artist studio tours... they are mostly all rural.
For instance, there is an exhibit at the Canadian Museum of Civilization of Folk Art from Quebec - it's very rural in its content (and wonderfully whimsical).
Also, a lot of potters, painters, sculptors, writers, etc... live where it's cheap to live and where they can do their art ... ie, where there is space, peace and/or where one doesn't have so many bylaw restrictions (pottery kiln, paint fumes, etc).
Just look at local artist studio tours... they are mostly all rural.
But i guess i'm just showing my political colours.
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If it's more or the first and less of the second, should you perhaps think this through a bit?
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I do find it rather alarming that the standard that potential VP Mrs Palin is being held to is basically "that she didn't f*** it up".
I think they hold stronger standards than that if you're running for chair of a school board of governers, never mind the second-most powerful person in the USA.
I think they hold stronger standards than that if you're running for chair of a school board of governers, never mind the second-most powerful person in the USA.
Thats debatable. Constitutionally the VP has bugger all to do and very little influence. John Garner (FDRs VP, 1933-41) memorably described his elevated office as being "not worth a bucket of warm piss"
However, should the president become incapacitated, then its a short steep elevation to power.....
However, should the president become incapacitated, then its a short steep elevation to power.....
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The influence of the VP varies depending on the individual. They should be an assistant to the president with a mutual agreement as to that role. They should not be involved in the Legislature except when there is a need for a deciding vote in the Senate. Certainly Cheney has been very influential, many say far too much so, and to very bad effect. Palin appeared to be asking for more power than he had which is worrying. Also one in three VPs get to become President...
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Kaboom! A miracle happens.
Infrastructure, such as the interstate system or the hospitals in Canada, gets built because governments build it. The free market is consumed by the need for a profit this year and so cannot help with projects with a hundred year life cycle.
More infrastructure or less government is a choice, like ice cream or thinness, you can't have them both.
Infrastructure, such as the interstate system or the hospitals in Canada, gets built because governments build it. The free market is consumed by the need for a profit this year and so cannot help with projects with a hundred year life cycle.
More infrastructure or less government is a choice, like ice cream or thinness, you can't have them both.
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Kaboom! A miracle happens.
Infrastructure, such as the interstate system or the hospitals in Canada, gets built because governments build it. The free market is consumed by the need for a profit this year and so cannot help with projects with a hundred year life cycle.
More infrastructure or less government is a choice, like ice cream or thinness, you can't have them both.
Infrastructure, such as the interstate system or the hospitals in Canada, gets built because governments build it. The free market is consumed by the need for a profit this year and so cannot help with projects with a hundred year life cycle.
More infrastructure or less government is a choice, like ice cream or thinness, you can't have them both.
Silly me I thought it was a tendering process and private companies bid for the work. I didnt realise you needed more government workers to help with the RFP and selection process. All they need to do is appoint their own Project Manager, design review team (more private sector roles with tightly designed governance).
Then appoint REAL project governance control not the wishy washy stuff I see now (in most provinces not just QC).
Unless government is running at full capacity I see no reason why spending money needs to generate more government. I know some government departments are running at near capacity and some go over the edge. But perhaps if they reviewed the working practices they may squeeze more work out of people during the summer months
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Hmmm I wonder how roads get built?
Silly me I thought it was a tendering process and private companies bid for the work. I didnt realise you needed more government workers to help with the RFP and selection process. All they need to do is appoint their own Project Manager, design review team (more private sector roles with tightly designed governance).
Then appoint REAL project governance control not the wishy washy stuff I see now (in most provinces not just QC).
Unless government is running at full capacity I see no reason why spending money needs to generate more government. I know some government departments are running at near capacity and some go over the edge. But perhaps if they reviewed the working practices they may squeeze more work out of people during the summer months![Big Grin](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Silly me I thought it was a tendering process and private companies bid for the work. I didnt realise you needed more government workers to help with the RFP and selection process. All they need to do is appoint their own Project Manager, design review team (more private sector roles with tightly designed governance).
Then appoint REAL project governance control not the wishy washy stuff I see now (in most provinces not just QC).
Unless government is running at full capacity I see no reason why spending money needs to generate more government. I know some government departments are running at near capacity and some go over the edge. But perhaps if they reviewed the working practices they may squeeze more work out of people during the summer months
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More generally, "less government" implies "less government spending". In which case who actually wields the shovel is irrelevant. It's who pays for it to be wielded which matters.
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For whatever reason, you're choosing to miss the point. "Less government" is not synonymous with "fewer government employees", although of course, if so specified it could legitimately used in that sense.
More generally, "less government" implies "less government spending". In which case who actually wields the shovel is irrelevant. It's who pays for it to be wielded which matters.
More generally, "less government" implies "less government spending". In which case who actually wields the shovel is irrelevant. It's who pays for it to be wielded which matters.
hmmmm it doesnt get more ambiguous than that. One person's thrive is another person's interference and social engineering.
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There was me thinking small government was about getting the best bang for your buck and keeping government out of social engineering and sticking with creating the right environment for the society to thrive ..... (infrastructure such as power, roads, public buildings, education, healthcare, law and order to name a few)
hmmmm it doesnt get more ambiguous than that. One person's thrive is another person's interference and social engineering.
hmmmm it doesnt get more ambiguous than that. One person's thrive is another person's interference and social engineering.
The ambiguity comes in the definition of "social engineering". What you call "social engineering", I call "protecting children", and would include it under "law and order".
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There was me thinking small government was about getting the best bang for your buck and keeping government out of social engineering and sticking with creating the right environment for the society to thrive ..... (infrastructure such as power, roads, public buildings, education, healthcare, law and order to name a few)
hmmmm it doesnt get more ambiguous than that. One person's thrive is another person's interference and social engineering.
hmmmm it doesnt get more ambiguous than that. One person's thrive is another person's interference and social engineering.
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