wardy_1990

hunters are the touchy bunch, someone on here against hunting suggested hunting hunters.. normal response to a debate, to murder the opposition

CKMaddAll

Hmm we are going round in circles here, so I will answer your question if you answer mine...

No- obviously it doesn't make any difference, it is purely my ethical standing which differentiates the two.

So I ask you this- do you honestly believe it makes any difference to the animals whether they are killed though intensive farming practice, or from a hunters gun/bow/etc?

dbd33

Is your use of "intensive" here a tacit admission that it's better for an animal to be raised on a traditional farm than to live in the wild and to be killed by a hunter?

jossie

I've yet to meet someone here in the Okanagan that is against hunting. There are a handful of regular posters on here that are unhappy Brits that haven't embraced there chosen country. You can mention enjoying anything Canadian and they will shoot it down. Come out and you will see that hunting is a huge pastime and widely accepted throughout Canada and the USA.

Jingsamichty

If you have read anything on this thread, you will understand that most people are NOT agaisnt hunting at all. (You just want them to be, so you can get all evangelical about it.)

People ARE, however, against the unseemly and disrespectful revelry in the slaughter that many hunters seem to exhibit in their pastime.

You are not a "traditonal" hunter... you are a convert, a zealot, and nobody likes zealots telling them what they should do.

bats

Oh I have met a fair few Canadians who are anti hunting and i live in a hunting area.

jossie

Step forward sample number 1 of an unhappy Brit in Canada. Next please!

jossie

More people than are not against it? And what area?

Jingsamichty

Just ignoring my point then, I see.

jossie

You mean your pointless?

dbd33

Perhaps that's because your life is spent shuffling between taxidermists and monster truck rallies. BC has famously lax rules on medical procedures and that has made the province home to a wide range of holistic medical practitioners, ear candlers, aromatherapists and like new age quacks. I think we reasonably suppose that people who devote their days to psychic healing oppose hunting. That you haven't met any such people or, that they haven't told you they're not keen on those antlers mounted on the bonnet of your Ram, doesn't mean that they don't exist.

bats

Don't know the ratio, i have never polled it. The two landowners i know don't allow hunting on their land. We're in the Kawarthas in Ontario.

CKMaddAll

Hmmm ok... more circles... I will answer your question if you answer mine... lets play fair people!

For your question - No, I am not saying that. My point is, intensive farming produces the majority of meat in the western world. Traditional farming may be more humane to the animals than intensive methods, but is unsustainable on the world stage, so this is a moot point.

Can I speak for the animals? Obviously not - but if you were to ask me whether I would prefer to be brought in prison, on death-row by someone who wanted to fatten me up, and in doing so, maximise profits from my demise, or live freely out in the wild, with a fighting chance of survival, then I would choose the latter.

So I ask you this- do you honestly believe it makes any difference to the animals whether they are killed though intensive (or indeed traditional) farming practice, or from a hunters gun/bow/etc?

Jingsamichty

Well, so is your point (less). You say that hunting is widely practiced and accepted. Erm, yes, we know that. Most people, myself included, are OK with that, as you have been told many times.

Apparently though, you can't accept that some people are perfectly entitled to hold an opinion which you once did. Why can't you just accept that?

jossie

Good luck - if they answer then they have lost the argument hence the politicians answers you keep getting!