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Yelkcub Jul 2nd 2010 6:27 pm

Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
Do you think that he had previously spent too much time watching Braveheart but is a reformed character following a change of heart who now loves the English? Or perhaps he has realised that by alienating the English supporters, he was taking money out of his own pocket?

Is he a twat or not?

mandymoochops Jul 2nd 2010 6:36 pm

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
Who is he then some scottish tennis player or something?

Yelkcub Jul 2nd 2010 6:41 pm

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 8674420)
Who is he then some scottish tennis player or something?

He's was Scottish, but now he is a British tennis player.:p

Flyingscottie Jul 3rd 2010 12:03 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674412)
Do you think that he had previously spent too much time watching Braveheart but is a reformed character following a change of heart who now loves the English? Or perhaps he has realised that by alienating the English supporters, he was taking money out of his own pocket?

Is he a twat or not?

What has he done to alienate English people?

fledermaus Jul 3rd 2010 1:05 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674427)
He's was Scottish, but now he is a British tennis player.:p

How does this manifest itself??


PS didn't he sing/write Snowbird??

Kimbie Jul 3rd 2010 1:17 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674427)
He's was Scottish, but now he is a British tennis player.:p

No you have it all wrong, when he is doing well he is a british player, when it goes badly he becomes scotish :)

Kimbie

Auld Yin Jul 3rd 2010 1:27 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674412)
Do you think that he had previously spent too much time watching Braveheart but is a reformed character following a change of heart who now loves the English? Or perhaps he has realised that by alienating the English supporters, he was taking money out of his own pocket?

Is he a twat or not?

Methinks you're the TWAT for writing such drivel.

reggiedh Jul 3rd 2010 2:26 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674412)
Do you think that he had previously spent too much time watching Braveheart but is a reformed character following a change of heart who now loves the English? Or perhaps he has realised that by alienating the English supporters, he was taking money out of his own pocket?

Is he a twat or not?

Twat.

ann m Jul 3rd 2010 2:58 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
I think he has the personality of a broom handle, and try as hard as I like to support him, I can't warm to the fella at all. He is a good player and still has some more potential - but perhaps only for another short window of a year or two.

I think he will fade into a bad-tempered oblivion within 4 years.

Alan2005 Jul 3rd 2010 4:19 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
Not a twat. Just a moderately decent tennis player who isn't particularly media savvy.

Yelkcub Jul 3rd 2010 4:44 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Flyingscottie (Post 8674907)
What has he done to alienate English people?


If you read his previous interviews I think that they your question answers itself. If you are going to make stupid comments about a nation of individuals and they are the hand that feeds, you might find yourself with a little less food.

I think the more appropiate question would be "What has he done to win their hearts and minds?"

Auld Yin Jul 3rd 2010 5:57 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8675385)
If you read his previous interviews I think that they your question answers itself. If you are going to make stupid comments about a nation of individuals and they are the hand that feeds, you might find yourself with a little less food.

I think the more appropiate question would be "What has he done to win their hearts and minds?"

Why does he have to win their hearts and minds? All he has to do is win and be top of the heap. The British public will think the sun shines out of his arse even if he's the most miserable SOB in the game. Being a nice, sweet guy will not put food on his table. There are many major tournaments around the world other than Wimbledon that he has won/can win/do well in. The British public is no longer the hand that feeds him.

Bijilo123 Jul 3rd 2010 6:00 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by ann m (Post 8675232)
I think he has the personality of a broom handle, and try as hard as I like to support him, I can't warm to the fella at all. He is a good player and still has some more potential - but perhaps only for another short window of a year or two.

I think he will fade into a bad-tempered oblivion within 4 years.

I remember Tim Henman whose personality was godlike.

Frazer56754 Jul 3rd 2010 6:04 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
No Andy Murray is a twat. You are right. I was born in England but my Dad is Scottish and even my Dad thinks he's a twat. I would respect him more if he didn't do a U turn on his opinions. I hate 2 faced people:sneaky:!

Bijilo123 Jul 3rd 2010 6:05 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
you are saying Tim is a twat?

el_richo Jul 3rd 2010 6:06 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674412)
Do you think that he had previously spent too much time watching Braveheart but is a reformed character following a change of heart who now loves the English? Or perhaps he has realised that by alienating the English supporters, he was taking money out of his own pocket?

Is he a twat or not?

I liked him in Ghostbusters

Frazer56754 Jul 3rd 2010 6:08 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Bijilo123 (Post 8675503)
you are saying Tim is a twat?

:confused:
Andy Murray as that was what the question was!!

Bijilo123 Jul 3rd 2010 6:10 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
So, Tim is not a twat because of his nationality.

In some circles that is considered racist.

Frazer56754 Jul 3rd 2010 6:12 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
What has racism got to do with it?????:huh:

Bijilo123 Jul 3rd 2010 6:17 am

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Nothing but your statements.

Bijilo123 Jul 3rd 2010 6:20 am

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In anticipation of your reply, I concede to your phillisophy.

Thydney Jul 3rd 2010 6:24 am

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Twat

Frazer56754 Jul 3rd 2010 6:30 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Bijilo123 (Post 8675513)
So, Tim is not a twat because of his nationality.

In some circles that is considered racist.

you lost me at this point. I am half Scottish. The clue is in my name:rofl:

Eva Jul 3rd 2010 6:39 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674412)
Do you think that he had previously spent too much time watching Braveheart but is a reformed character following a change of heart who now loves the English? Or perhaps he has realised that by alienating the English supporters, he was taking money out of his own pocket?

Is he a twat or not?


His 'anyone but England' remark was made in jest to a Sports Commentator who initially wound him up about Scotland not qualifying for World Cup.Do some research, the full context is well documented and corroborated by St Tim of England himself but you are right- of course he's a twat-sure only a twat would take himself out his comfort zone to train 24/7 when his contempories in Scotland were sticking needles in their arms and knocking back the buckfast.Only a twat would identify his chance of success and work to capitalize on it-stupid twat-he's only gone and become a millionaire at 23.Only a twat would survive his parents divorce not to mention 17 of his younger schoolmates being gunned down by a madman,what a twat for being in school at the time....
Course he's a twat for being guarded with the media-they quoted him out of context and he got serious hatemail for it but what a twat?
Hmmmmmm who's the twat??

jimf Jul 3rd 2010 8:29 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
He's certainly a good player but possibly not quite as good as he thinks he is. He also comes across as petty grumpy at the best of times - okay when he was a teenager but you'd expect him to have matured bit by now especialy when you compare his demenour to that of Federer or Nadal. Just a bit dull and gruff rather than a twat though.

Oink Jul 3rd 2010 8:44 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8674412)
Do you think that he had previously spent too much time watching Braveheart but is a reformed character following a change of heart who now loves the English? Or perhaps he has realised that by alienating the English supporters, he was taking money out of his own pocket?

Is he a twat or not?

Don't know if he's a twat or not, but what I can't stand is Scotch people who are really into being Scotch when it suits them but when they want to earn some decent money they suddenly start pandering to the British.

GagainPEI Jul 3rd 2010 9:00 am

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Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8675044)
Methinks you're the TWAT for writing such drivel.

i agree with you, for once. What a load of drivel. My best friend is a Scot form the tenements of Glasgow. I am so proud of her to have raised herself from the povery in which she was raised to her present situation.

Bijilo123 Jul 3rd 2010 9:09 am

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tw@

framac67 Jul 3rd 2010 9:32 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8675674)
He's certainly a good player but possibly not quite as good as he thinks he is. He also comes across as petty grumpy at the best of times - okay when he was a teenager but you'd expect him to have matured bit by now especialy when you compare his demenour to that of Federer or Nadal. Just a bit dull and gruff rather than a twat though.

Best player to come out of the British isles in many a year and he's Scottish through and through. Only British to please his sponsors. When he f**ks up, he'll become Scottish again to the English media but until then, he's all they've got, so he's British:blink:

jimf Jul 3rd 2010 10:17 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by framac67 (Post 8675739)
Best player to come out of the British isles in many a year and he's Scottish through and through. Only British to please his sponsors. When he f**ks up, he'll become Scottish again to the English media but until then, he's all they've got, so he's British:blink:

Being half Scottish myself I tend to see through the myth of Scots being described as British when they're doing well and Scottish when they're doing badly. However some Scots do appear to like to cling on to this myth.

There's no doubt he is a good player. However, one statistic I do remember from a few years ago is that no player had won their first grand slam tournament when over the age of 25. How old is he now 24?

Alan2005 Jul 3rd 2010 10:22 am

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Originally Posted by GagainPEI (Post 8675702)
i agree with you, for once. What a load of drivel. My best friend is a Scot form the tenements of Glasgow. I am so proud of her to have raised herself from the povery in which she was raised to her present situation.

I can imagine. You are rightly proud of your friend overcoming their scotch upbringing and and attaining success in the civilized world. Far to few scotch people make it that far.

Oink Jul 3rd 2010 10:35 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 8675801)
I can imagine. You are rightly proud of your friend overcoming their scotch upbringing and and attaining success in the civilized world. Far to few scotch people make it that far.

Most of the Scotch people I have met seemed to have a big chip on their shoulder. That can't help them get along in life. I feel bad for them.

Yelkcub Jul 3rd 2010 5:16 pm

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 
I met an Italian chap last wek and he said that he thought all Scotish people were tight and shopped at Value Village. Bit harsh tagging the whole of the Scotish race with that brush but he seemed to think that it was appropiate.

I just think that you should stick to your roots rather than change to suit what others want you to be so that you obtain better PR - if he hates English people (& I am not saying he does) fair play if he sticks to his guns and doesn't give two fecks what anyone thinks.

I also find some (not all) Scotish people get very defensive about all things Scotish (I had a discussion with a strap who argued Braveheart was an accurate historical account; I pointed out that it was subject to some artist license so he accuss me of being anti-Scotish! Get a life!). Stop taking life so serious; you don't have to like something just because it hails from North of the Border! If it is so great there, why do so many up sticks and go down South or even emigrate to places like Canada. Take a chill pill. :thumbup:

reggiedh Jul 3rd 2010 7:25 pm

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8675494)
Why does he have to win their hearts and minds? All he has to do is win and be top of the heap. The British public will think the sun shines out of his arse even if he's the most miserable SOB in the game. Being a nice, sweet guy will not put food on his table. There are many major tournaments around the world other than Wimbledon that he has won/can win/do well in. The British public is no longer the hand that feeds him.

Dunno; seems to work for Federer.......

framac67 Jul 3rd 2010 10:32 pm

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by Yelkcub (Post 8676161)
I met an Italian chap last wek and he said that he thought all Scotish people were tight and shopped at Value Village. Bit harsh tagging the whole of the Scotish race with that brush but he seemed to think that it was appropiate.

I just think that you should stick to your roots rather than change to suit what others want you to be so that you obtain better PR - if he hates English people (& I am not saying he does) fair play if he sticks to his guns and doesn't give two fecks what anyone thinks.

I also find some (not all) Scotish people get very defensive about all things Scotish (I had a discussion with a strap who argued Braveheart was an accurate historical account; I pointed out that it was subject to some artist license so he accuss me of being anti-Scotish! Get a life!). Stop taking life so serious; you don't have to like something just because it hails from North of the Border! If it is so great there, why do so many up sticks and go down South or even emigrate to places like Canada. Take a chill pill. :thumbup:

All Italians are greasy daegos.:confused: This statement could be used to highlight how idiotic he sounds.:zzz:

Auld Yin Jul 4th 2010 1:31 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by reggiedh (Post 8676306)
Dunno; seems to work for Federer.......

It's Federer's playing ability that puts food on his table. His niceness is simply an add-on. Watch how nice he is on the court playing for every point and trying to demoralize his opponent.

budcolin Jul 4th 2010 11:08 am

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A wee bit of anti Scottish on here....and we have a chip on our shoulders?????

Well done Andy Murray...not a lot of people reach the later stages of Wimbledon:thumbup:

R I C H Jul 5th 2010 6:18 am

Re: Andy Murray - Twat or not?
 

Originally Posted by budcolin (Post 8677466)
Well done Andy Murray...not a lot of people reach the later stages of Wimbledon:thumbup:

Restricting the semi finals to just 4 each year's starting to get on my nerves. The organizers should make it more inclusive rather than letting players drop by the wayside over the prior week. It's a disgrace. :frown:

Yelkcub Jul 5th 2010 6:27 am

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Originally Posted by budcolin (Post 8677466)
Well done Andy Murray...not a lot of people reach the later stages of Wimbledon:thumbup:

Funny enough 4 normally get to the semis and 2 to the final. Also to get to the later stages you have to enter it.

All of the above is quite obvious but then so was your post!

budcolin Jul 5th 2010 9:29 am

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[QUOTE=Yelkcub;8679426] Also to get to the later stages you have to enter it.

And there was me thinking you just show up with your bat and ball, and hope for the best:eek:


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