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SAW 04 Jun 28th 2010 10:36 am

The 401
 
As a brit I thought I was well prepared to face the 401 highway in Toronto. After that experience I sincerely hope the QEW and Gardiner are a little more forgiving!

fledermaus Jun 28th 2010 10:47 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8663854)
As a brit I thought I was well prepared to face the 401 highway in Toronto. After that experience I sincerely hope the QEW and Gardiner are a little more forgiving!

chuckles..........

don't even think of the Don Valley Parking lot at this stage.

It's not the volume of traffic that gets me but the signage, or lack of, the seemingly permanent construction work, and of course the idiots.

Welcome to Ontario

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 10:52 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8663854)
As a brit I thought I was well prepared to face the 401 highway in Toronto. After that experience I sincerely hope the QEW and Gardiner are a little more forgiving!

It's Monday. Just wait for Friday.

Also welcome to the good bit of Canada from me.

dbd33 Jun 28th 2010 10:55 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8663854)
As a brit I thought I was well prepared to face the 401 highway in Toronto. After that experience I sincerely hope the QEW and Gardiner are a little more forgiving!

Less busy, but more prone to construction closures (and the 401 has had one or more lanes closed in summer since I've been here).

SAW 04 Jun 28th 2010 11:03 am

Re: The 401
 
Thanks Novo, its good to be here at last


Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8663886)
It's Monday. Just wait for Friday.

Also welcome to the good bit of Canada from me.


SAW 04 Jun 28th 2010 11:10 am

Re: The 401
 
Ill do my best to avoid the DVP and the 401 but have no choice on the QEW. going to drive from Mississauga to downtown tomorrow morning, hopefully not to scary!


Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8663876)
chuckles..........

don't even think of the Don Valley Parking lot at this stage.

It's not the volume of traffic that gets me but the signage, or lack of, the seemingly permanent construction work, and of course the idiots.

Welcome to Ontario


Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 11:12 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8663929)
Ill do my best to avoid the DVP and the 401 but have no choice on the QEW. going to drive from Mississauga to downtown tomorrow morning, hopefully not to scary!

The scariest bit is Mississauga.

Atlantic Xpat Jun 28th 2010 11:18 am

Re: The 401
 
It's the whole collector business that usually screws me up. I'm on the express bit and need to be on a collector to get to my exit. Oh bugger.

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 11:22 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8663951)
It's the whole collector business that usually screws me up. I'm on the express bit and need to be on a collector to get to my exit. Oh bugger.

They have clever new-fangled things called road signs. They're often blue.

fledermaus Jun 28th 2010 11:24 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8663958)
They have clever new-fangled things called road signs. They're often blue.

and in the wrong place!

try and stay in the lane that forks off. Less angst and forking off that way.

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 11:26 am

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8663964)
and in the wrong place!

try and stay in the lane that forks off. Less angst and forking off that way.

Waddya mean, the wrong place?

And at the risk of crossing up two threads, I'm forking off tomorrow.

Atlantic Xpat Jun 28th 2010 11:39 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8663958)
They have clever new-fangled things called road signs. They're often blue.

Us folk from the provinces have enough to do in fighting with other drivers to find time to read the road signs (in time.) Fortunately, on Thursday AM when I arrive back in the UK we are being collected rather than having to do battle with the M25 at 07:30am.

SAW 04 Jun 28th 2010 11:41 am

Re: The 401
 
I have to make my way down Hurontario the QEW. Going to leave at 8 and see how it goes


Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8663937)
The scariest bit is Mississauga.


dbd33 Jun 28th 2010 11:41 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8663929)
Ill do my best to avoid the DVP and the 401 but have no choice on the QEW. going to drive from Mississauga to downtown tomorrow morning, hopefully not to scary!

As the QEW becomes the Gardiner, at about Jameson, pick the middle lane. It looks wrong but, on the inside of the curve, the traffic snarls.

SAW 04 Jun 28th 2010 11:43 am

Re: The 401
 
the M25 is childs play compared with the chaos I witnessed on the 401 today


Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8664003)
Us folk from the provinces have enough to do in fighting with other drivers to find time to read the road signs (in time.) Fortunately, on Thursday AM when I arrive back in the UK we are being collected rather than having to do battle with the M25 at 07:30am.


Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 11:45 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8664003)
Us folk from the provinces have enough to do in fighting with other drivers to find time to read the road signs (in time.) Fortunately, on Thursday AM when I arrive back in the UK we are being collected rather than having to do battle with the M25 at 07:30am.

Another exile to Europe? Have fun.

<actually I'll be in the UK from Wed to Friday, then off to France for the summer>.

dbd33 Jun 28th 2010 11:48 am

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Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8664010)
the M25 is childs play compared with the chaos I witnessed on the 401 today

Posters here tend to believe it, but, when home, I enjoy the M25 for the speed and the discipline. I make an effort to find time to go around it.

dbd33 Jun 28th 2010 11:49 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8664013)
Another exile to Europe? Have fun.

<actually I'll be in the UK from Wed to Friday, then off to France for the summer>.

Enjoy it. Bastard.

Steve_P Jun 28th 2010 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8663970)
Waddya mean, the wrong place?

And at the risk of crossing up two threads, I'm forking off tomorrow.

Germany?

France later?

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 12:01 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 8664024)
Germany?

France later?

Eh?

dthomas Jun 28th 2010 12:06 pm

Re: The 401
 
Last Friday I took the 401 from Montreal - being a smartarse thought I could evade the traffic gauntlet and catch an 8PM show in Stratford (approx 670 kms) - left at 9:00 AM doing 125 KM/H. Smooth sailing - until hitting the 403/410 split Mississaugua. The traffic was the equivalent of a double dose of the piles. It finally freed up before Kitchener.

I'm an idiot. And I hate T.O.
Arrived at Stratford at 4:58 PM:thumbdown:.

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 12:22 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by dthomas (Post 8664057)
Last Friday I took the 401 from Montreal - being a smartarse thought I could evade the traffic gauntlet and catch an 8PM show in Stratford (approx 670 kms) - left at 9:00 AM doing 125 KM/H. Smooth sailing - until hitting the 403/410 split Mississaugua. The traffic was the equivalent of a double dose of the piles. It finally freed up before Kitchener.

I'm an idiot. And I hate T.O.
Arrived at Stratford at 4:58 PM:thumbdown:.

What did you see?

dthomas Jun 28th 2010 12:37 pm

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The Tempest - it was a solid Stratford rep. production. Very decent direction and supporting actors (the Stratford regulars); Arial (Julyana Soelistyo) and Caliban (Dion Johnstone) were super. Plummer shows his natural & powerful command of the stage - but he was difficult to hear in first and last two scenes. A great show :thumbup:.

P.S. I sat near a woman and man who I believe to be Michaelle Jean & Jean-Daniel Lafond. She let out a huge fart just before the intermission. Bloody wretched behaviour for dilettantes.

lmartin999 Jun 28th 2010 12:48 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8663929)
going to drive from Mississauga

Didn't we try to warn you about Hazelville? If not, we should have..
Hopefully your stay is only temporary.

Steve_P Jun 28th 2010 1:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8664043)
Eh?

You're leaving (forking off).

Your usual summer jaunt I presumed.

First over to Germany then on to France until September.

No?

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 1:07 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by dthomas (Post 8664107)
The Tempest - it was a solid Stratford rep. production. Very decent direction and supporting actors (the Stratford regulars); Arial (Julyana Soelistyo) and Caliban (Dion Johnstone) were super. Plummer shows his natural & powerful command of the stage - but he was difficult to hear in first and last two scenes. A great show :thumbup:.

P.S. I sat near a woman and man who I believe to be Michaelle Jean & Jean-Daniel Lafond. She let out a huge fart just before the intermission. Bloody wretched behaviour for dilettantes.

Who was it by?

'Ere, where did Albert go??

Oh, he's back.

As you were.

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 1:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 8664135)
You're leaving (forking off).

Your usual summer jaunt I presumed.

First over to Germany then on to France until September.

No?

No, first over to the UK then on to France.

Try to keep up. :)

Steve_P Jun 28th 2010 1:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8664146)
No, first over to the UK then on to France.

Try to keep up. :)

Sorry. Happens as you get older.:blink:

The UK?

People still go there?

Novocastrian Jun 28th 2010 1:37 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 8664157)
Sorry. Happens as you get older.:blink:

The UK?

People still go there?

You think you're old?

I'm only going to the UK to spend a day with my really old mother.

90-odd. Mostly odd.

Auld Yin Jun 28th 2010 1:41 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8664010)
the M25 is childs play compared with the chaos I witnessed on the 401 today

And I thought the same of some of the UK Motorways when I was there. The 401 is quite understandable and easy to those of us who do regularly. All Highways/Motorways are intimidating to varying degrees when unfamiliar with them. And if you're from NS, well..........

Clematis Jun 28th 2010 2:26 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8663854)
As a brit I thought I was well prepared to face the 401 highway in Toronto. After that experience I sincerely hope the QEW and Gardiner are a little more forgiving!

Welcome to Ontario.


Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8663970)
I'm forking off tomorrow.

Happy travels to you and Mrs Novo.

magnumpi Jun 28th 2010 3:24 pm

Re: The 401
 
Well i got from Brampton (west) to Port Union (east) in 35 mins, at 3pm, without a problem via the 410 & 401, personally, i find the whole 400 highway thing a breeze here. :thumbsup: Even got across town on the QEW Gard and up the DVP, Friday eve, without a hitch, Oakville to Pickering, closing all the slip roads helped though....LOL

When i think of the days wasted sat on the M6 parking lot :thumbdown: Although the M4 was always, well mostly, good to me.

@OP.............Give it time, choose your times you will most likely get to like it, get a few 1,000 k's under your belt and you will wonder what all the fuss was about when you think back.

P.S. 8am will be a tad busy :eek:

SAW 04 Jun 28th 2010 10:42 pm

Re: The 401
 
I drove from Montreal yesterday so by the time I reached the GTA I was knackered anyway, then to face 16 lanes of traffic was a bit of a shock. I have to admit it was moving but very slowly. As you rightly point out Im sure it wont be an issue after a few weeks but as someone else pointed out I have lived in rural (well Halifax) Nova Scotia for the past 5 years so the whole things a bit daunting.


Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 8664351)
Well i got from Brampton (west) to Port Union (east) in 35 mins, at 3pm, without a problem via the 410 & 401, personally, i find the whole 400 highway thing a breeze here. :thumbsup: Even got across town on the QEW Gard and up the DVP, Friday eve, without a hitch, Oakville to Pickering, closing all the slip roads helped though....LOL

When i think of the days wasted sat on the M6 parking lot :thumbdown: Although the M4 was always, well mostly, good to me.

@OP.............Give it time, choose your times you will most likely get to like it, get a few 1,000 k's under your belt and you will wonder what all the fuss was about when you think back.

P.S. 8am will be a tad busy :eek:


Atlantic Xpat Jun 28th 2010 11:32 pm

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by SAW 04 (Post 8665098)
I drove from Montreal yesterday so by the time I reached the GTA I was knackered anyway, then to face 16 lanes of traffic was a bit of a shock. I have to admit it was moving but very slowly. As you rightly point out Im sure it wont be an issue after a few weeks but as someone else pointed out I have lived in rural (well Halifax) Nova Scotia for the past 5 years so the whole things a bit daunting.

Them city sofisticates likely saw your NS plates and thought 'Here's a rube from the country we can cut up'. You'll be OK when you are on ON plates so to speak.;)

Tuppence Jun 29th 2010 1:43 am

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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 8665208)
Them city sofisticates likely saw your NS plates and thought 'Here's a rube from the country we can cut up'. You'll be OK when you are on ON plates so to speak.;)

Perhaps he should get some Quebec plates instead? Montreal sounded like a bit of a deathtrap too, so perhaps if he can prove he survived there...? :)

dbd33 Jun 29th 2010 1:50 am

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Originally Posted by Tuppence (Post 8665498)
Perhaps he should get some Quebec plates instead? Montreal sounded like a bit of a deathtrap too, so perhaps if he can prove he survived there...? :)

He could get a bumper sticker indicating a willingness to engage in aggression, anything including the word "Redneck" would work. That or the ever popular "If you're going to ride my ass at least pull my hair". I considered the latter but on a pastel Beetle it might be a little much.

iaink Jun 29th 2010 1:53 am

Re: The 401
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8665504)
He could get a bumper sticker indicating a willingness to engage in aggression, anything including the word "Redneck" would work. That or the ever popular "If you're going to ride my ass at least pull my hair". I considered the latter but on a pastel Beetle it might be a little much.

Hard to see a bumper sticker in your rear view mirror;)

Auld Yin Jun 29th 2010 1:56 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8665504)
He could get a bumper sticker indicating a willingness to engage in aggression, anything including the word "Redneck" would work. That or the ever popular "If you're going to ride my ass at least pull my hair". I considered the latter but on a pastel Beetle it might be a little much.

I can't imagine anyone riding your ass when you're doing 160 km/hr on the 400 series highways, other than an OPP cruiser.

el_richo Jun 29th 2010 1:58 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 8665504)
That or the ever popular "If you're going to ride my ass at least pull my hair".

Does your dog have that on his collar?


.

dbd33 Jun 29th 2010 2:12 am

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Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8665517)
I can't imagine anyone riding your ass when you're doing 160 km/hr on the 400 series highways, other than an OPP cruiser.

Last night I was going at 95 (miles) in an 80 (clicometres) and a car blasted past me. I'm not the only one who drives with a desire to arrive the same day.


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