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Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:17 am
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Originally Posted by spankysparkle
ever heard of protective gear?
snowboarders may fall more initially, but there are always more ski casualties.
Because there are more skiers than snowboarders I imagine.

How does one protect against collarbone injuries anyway?

In never got this "one thing is better than the other" rivalry, it just seems silly to me. Just enjoy the slopes and be safe.

The stats on helmet usage make interesting reading. Despite >50% helmet usage now, the fatality rate remains almost exactly the same as when no one used them. Something to do with instilling overconfidence, or else the kind of accidents that created enough G force to kill people still exceed a fatal level even with a helmet (just not by as much)

They do prevent minor injuries though.

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Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:21 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by iaink
Because there are more skiers than snowboarders I imagine.

How does one protect against collarbone injuries anyway?

In never got this "one thing is better than the other" rivalr, it just seems silly to me. Just enjoy the slopes and be safe.

The stats on helmet usage make interesting reading. Despite >50% helmet usage now, the fatality rate remains almost exactly the same as when no one used them. Something to do with instilling overconfidence, or else the kind of accidents that created enough G force to kill people still exceed a fatal level even with a helmet (just not by as much)

They do prevent minor injuries though.
i absolutely agree with you, i'm just playing silly buggers.
i love em all equally :0)
just wish more locals here in europe felt the same way
 
Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:23 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

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Because there are more skiers than snowboarders I imagine.

How does one protect against collarbone injuries anyway?

In never got this "one thing is better than the other" rivalr, it just seems silly to me. Just enjoy the slopes and be safe.

The stats on helmet usage make interesting reading. Despite >50% helmet usage now, the fatality rate remains almost exactly the same as when no one used them. Something to do with instilling overconfidence, or else the kind of accidents that created enough G force to kill people still exceed a fatal level even with a helmet (just not by as much)

They do prevent minor injuries though.
I use knee pads, an arse protector and a helmet. Wouldn't be on the slopes without them.
 
Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:26 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by iaink

The stats on helmet usage make interesting reading. Despite >50% helmet usage now, the fatality rate remains almost exactly the same as when no one used them. Something to do with instilling overconfidence, or else the kind of accidents that created enough G force to kill people still exceed a fatal level even with a helmet (just not by as much)

They do prevent minor injuries though.
i find the helmet debate very interesting. i'm convinced mine saved my life once. i hate wearing it, but i would rather not risk it.
 
Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:29 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by Alan2005
I use knee pads, an arse protector and a helmet. Wouldn't be on the slopes without them.
Knee pads AND an arse protector....I'm biting my tongue as its not a "prison bitch" thread...

My arse protector was provided by a combination of the Sleaman Brewery and Tim Hortons, but it takes years to fit

Dont get me wrong, I'll be in a helmet. I just dont expect it to work miracles if I hit a tree at speed.

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Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:30 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

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i find the helmet debate very interesting. i'm convinced mine saved my life once. i hate wearing it, but i would rather not risk it.
Mine definitely has once - I don't hate wearing it either. It makes me look hard-core
 
Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:30 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by Alan2005
I use knee pads, an arse protector and a helmet. Wouldn't be on the slopes without them.
ive never worn my arse protector, but i'm sure i will.

i've seen skiers with those padded back and chest doobreys. call me stupid but how does that work?
 
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by spankysparkle
ive never worn my arse protector, but i'm sure i will.

i've seen skiers with those padded back and chest doobreys. call me stupid but how does that work?
I've been tempted by those. I've caught back edges and gone flying and landed on my back - not nice.
 
Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 4:54 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by Alan2005
I've been tempted by those. I've caught back edges and gone flying and landed on my back - not nice.
i see! i've done that on my front. bloody awful when the breath gets knocked out of you
 
Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 5:11 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by Alan2005
I've been tempted by those. I've caught back edges and gone flying and landed on my back - not nice.
I wish they'd been around 10 years or so ago (not that I'd have worn one, probably - but I'll certainly consider it today). I stuffed my back (compression fractures in T12 and L1) in a bad fall in the French alps and had to be carted off the mountain in the orange toboggan, then strapped up in a splendid Smurf-blue fibreglass cast, from my armpits to my hipbone, for a while. Thankfully I suffer no long-term effects but haven't ventured out onto the slopes since. This year I've promised to take my son up to the bunny slopes at Glen Eden - it's about time I got back on skis.
 
Old Dec 3rd 2009 | 5:13 am
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by spankysparkle
i've seen skiers with those padded back and chest doobreys. call me stupid but how does that work?
I impaled myself in the ribs with a ski pole last winter (snapped it in half). Some more padding in that area might have reduced the bruising somewhat.
 
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by spankysparkle
i see! i've done that on my front. bloody awful when the breath gets knocked out of you
There are an amazing amount of gadgets out there that can help you fall better.

I now have two of these knee braces for my knees, not 100% effective but definitely help you fall better. They actually provide some resistance from the force of a fall so that your lower leg is prevented from twisting and damaging further knee ligaments.

In my opinion the biggest danger is from kids listening to music while riding or skiing.
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There are an amazing amount of gadgets out there that can help you fall better.

I now have two of these knee braces for my knees, not 100% effective but definitely help you fall better. They actually provide some resistance from the force of a fall so that your lower leg is prevented from twisting and damaging further knee ligaments.

In my opinion the biggest danger is from kids listening to music while riding or skiing.
Clearly crashing into a tree is more dangerous than a perforated ear drum?
 
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Default Re: 2009 / 2010 ski injuries . . .

Originally Posted by Oakvillian
I wish they'd been around 10 years or so ago (not that I'd have worn one, probably - but I'll certainly consider it today). I stuffed my back (compression fractures in T12 and L1) in a bad fall in the French alps and had to be carted off the mountain in the orange toboggan, then strapped up in a splendid Smurf-blue fibreglass cast, from my armpits to my hipbone, for a while. Thankfully I suffer no long-term effects but haven't ventured out onto the slopes since. This year I've promised to take my son up to the bunny slopes at Glen Eden - it's about time I got back on skis.
good on you oakvillian!
 
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Clearly crashing into a tree is more dangerous than a perforated ear drum?
Being crashed into by a blissfully unaware kid is probably somewhere in between
 


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