Have you learnt Malay?
#17
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From personal experience it's not that easy! 3 years in and I can still only speak sedikit sedikit... mostly as locals want to practice their English when talking to me so I never get a change to speak Malay, but when the do speak it is soooo fast! (I am the only expat in an office with over 300 Malay staff so should be an ideal situation to learn!!:
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I never was good at languages mind...
)I never was good at languages mind...

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Ha ha, you better get over to the Thai sub-forum
I learnt a bit when I was living there. Forgive me correcting you, but I see you are female, so you must say Sawadi-kar. A man will say Sawadi-khap. I enjoyed learning it but the characters... whorrrr... and they don't all go left to right either. And after I discovered that they don't put gaps in between words, that finished it off for me. A bit too challenging for my senior brain
Anyway best of luck with that. It's an interesting language and I'm sure your braincells function a little better than mine 
How many languages do you speak, Stranded?
I learnt a bit when I was living there. Forgive me correcting you, but I see you are female, so you must say Sawadi-kar. A man will say Sawadi-khap. I enjoyed learning it but the characters... whorrrr... and they don't all go left to right either. And after I discovered that they don't put gaps in between words, that finished it off for me. A bit too challenging for my senior brain
Anyway best of luck with that. It's an interesting language and I'm sure your braincells function a little better than mine 
How many languages do you speak, Stranded?
You might right bakedbean
So, early correction Sawadi-kar...khap?just wanna sharing something with you here, actually learning others languages always am facsinating about,not much...at least I can speak in general like how are you- good morning-good night-and some love words things
don't laughso far I have a few words that I confident to say if this people around me,
Arabic, Italian, Thais..off course English

how about you?
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You might right bakedbean
So, early correction Sawadi-kar...khap?
just wanna sharing something with you here, actually learning others languages always am facsinating about,not much...at least I can speak in general like how are you- good morning-good night-and some love words things
don't laugh
so far I have a few words that I confident to say if this people around me,
Arabic, Italian, Thais..off course English
how about you?
So, early correction Sawadi-kar...khap?just wanna sharing something with you here, actually learning others languages always am facsinating about,not much...at least I can speak in general like how are you- good morning-good night-and some love words things
don't laughso far I have a few words that I confident to say if this people around me,
Arabic, Italian, Thais..off course English

how about you?

My only fluent language is English I'm afraid. Did French for years at school and never could master it. Bits and pieces of Thai and German. My Greek was quite good at one time, but forget most of it now. Having a little go at Malay. I think it'll be useful here.
#21
No I am an English bean 
But I thought you said you were local? I'm sure you must speak some of the local languages. C'mon... don't be shy.

But I thought you said you were local? I'm sure you must speak some of the local languages. C'mon... don't be shy.
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I'm not shy at all!
Apa khabar bakedbean? you remind me the movie "Nothing to lose"
was the guy name bakedbean...he's real funny
Apa khabar bakedbean? you remind me the movie "Nothing to lose"
was the guy name bakedbean...he's real funny
#23
Khabar baik 
Wonderful - now I've got someone to bombard with questions, heh heh.
Tell me.... when you put a kah on the end of a word - is this to make it a question?
I mean....... Mana = where
but if you say Di Manakah = Where is/are?
And noticed the same with Ada and Adakah. Have I got this right?
So you speak Malay - brilliant. Any other of the local languages? I've noticed that most local Malaysians seems to speak quite a few languages.

Wonderful - now I've got someone to bombard with questions, heh heh.
Tell me.... when you put a kah on the end of a word - is this to make it a question?
I mean....... Mana = where
but if you say Di Manakah = Where is/are?
And noticed the same with Ada and Adakah. Have I got this right?
So you speak Malay - brilliant. Any other of the local languages? I've noticed that most local Malaysians seems to speak quite a few languages.
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Khabar baik 
Wonderful - now I've got someone to bombard with questions, heh heh.
Tell me.... when you put a kah on the end of a word - is this to make it a question?
I mean....... Mana = where
but if you say Di Manakah = Where is/are?
And noticed the same with Ada and Adakah. Have I got this right?
So you speak Malay - brilliant. Any other of the local languages? I've noticed that most local Malaysians seems to speak quite a few languages.

Wonderful - now I've got someone to bombard with questions, heh heh.
Tell me.... when you put a kah on the end of a word - is this to make it a question?
I mean....... Mana = where
but if you say Di Manakah = Where is/are?
And noticed the same with Ada and Adakah. Have I got this right?
So you speak Malay - brilliant. Any other of the local languages? I've noticed that most local Malaysians seems to speak quite a few languages.
Bakedbean,
We not really using -Dimanakah-its sound serious way..we normaly said -Mana lah? -mean is where? we made in easy way to pronounce..and simple
always LAH..in many words,
are you ok? I'm ok lah! how are you lah? I'm ok lah!....very common in KL
jom pergi pasar-let's go to the market, ok lah
sudah makan? have you eat yet
we won't say in proper way example- kamu sudah makan? we make it simple as much we could...but malay language seem lazy one..
#25
Oh thanks for that 
I wondered if that might possibly be some "formal" Malay. So, if I said Di Manakah, people would think I'm a bit stuck up, heh heh.
Ya I know about the Lahs from my Singapore days.

I wondered if that might possibly be some "formal" Malay. So, if I said Di Manakah, people would think I'm a bit stuck up, heh heh.
Ya I know about the Lahs from my Singapore days.
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If you are serious,may i suggest that you pay a Malay person a few ringett for a few hours each week. You will progress in no time.
I lived many more years in France than Malaysia and found Malay far easier...maybe now though my French is considerably better but took double and more the work....
#27
Malay is just one of many hobbies and it's going fine. Can eavesdrop a little bit now. Was able to tell a Malay in the Pos Office that they were queue jumping Saya pertama (I'm first) heh heh. Yeh I'm sure i could pay someone but I don't want a commitment right now (other things going on right now) and in any case so many people I can practice on for free :-) it's Judy a half serious hobby.
BTW referring to a previous posting re -kah. It's used for emphasis. Eg Di mana tandas... Equals... Where's the toilet?
Di manakah tandas .... Equals... WHERE is the toilet (like emergency) LOL
BTW referring to a previous posting re -kah. It's used for emphasis. Eg Di mana tandas... Equals... Where's the toilet?
Di manakah tandas .... Equals... WHERE is the toilet (like emergency) LOL
#28
I love learning languages and have already started on Malay, only problem is that I'm probably learning the very formal stuff as previously pointed out in the kah, lah, posts. Paying someone local to learn the colloquial way sounds like a great idea once I land in MY. I guess the course I'm doing will help give me the grasp of the language then I should pick up the conversational colloquial stuff more quickly.
Only just completed the fist section on introductions and already getting a sense of the many ways to say the same thing! Saya juga, begitu; Saya gembira berkenalan dengan anda juga; Begitu juga dengan saya; I guess you just pick one and stick with it!
Only just completed the fist section on introductions and already getting a sense of the many ways to say the same thing! Saya juga, begitu; Saya gembira berkenalan dengan anda juga; Begitu juga dengan saya; I guess you just pick one and stick with it!
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So I ask for a pair of shoes in a certain style, size 9 in brown and when they are brought to me I see a pair of size 5 in black. I point this out to the assistant as being size 5 and not size 9 and is black in colour and not brown as I had requested. The assiastant replies "that is correct sir".
The point being, that I have not been told that they do not have, what I want, as that would be like saying "No" to a customer and therefore lose the customer and lose "face" into the bargain.
Very frustrating for us westeners who like a direct answer but supposedly "face" saving for all concerned.
Of course I may be wrong, it is just my interpretation
Best reards
jonboy
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That's funny jonboy. I had a similar experience when buying a bra recently. Found one I liked, asked for another and got offered one 2 sizes larger. Tried very hard not to laugh



