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Just goes to show yet again, that there is no standard. As usual comunes do what they think. If your lucky good, if not.

LivingHere

I am sure though that the EHIC card does not entitle you to normal ASL cover. I would be so very pleased to be proved wrong though.

clint

The card I think covers for treatment while abroad, before getting residency OH was having problems with his medical condition and they told us to go to ASL

But the card was accepted for residency after getting the letter from the comune confirming OH residency he registered with ASL and now has local doctor. He is going for flu jab tomorrow

keeva72

You get your CF from one of two offices down the bottom of via Nazionale. Go to the one around the corner on the viale


Is that the one on viale spartaco lavagnini? I don't really trust google maps after spending Friday morning looking for a non existent anagrafe!

TestaRossa

Yep, nazionale, apparently, becomes santa caterina d'alessandria after you pass Piazza indipendenza. The first office is on the corner of sta cat and the second one is behind it on lavagnini.

The anagrafe is inside the Palazzo Vecchio - take the side entrance, go through security and go through the arch on the left, it's in the left hand corner - but they will tell you to register at the casa comunale on via dei leoni, which is at the back of the palazzo vecchio.

DaniL

Right, so we go to Spartaco whatsit to get codice fiscales, then palazzo vecchio to do the registering bit.
Am I right in thinking it would be best to do things in this order:
codice fiscale
open a bank account
get a job
register as residents ?
Also I was wondering, how does anyone know when we've been here for 3 months and need to register as residents? Nobody even looked at our passports when we landed, so how will they know we are living here? I was just thinking that if it takes us a while to find jobs would anybody realise that we'd been here over 3 months?

jeffcoy

Hi, we too are having problems getting residency. Got CF
Told that we need to get official translations and stamps from the British Embassy for birth, marriage, divorce certificates but the Embassy says it does
not do this. Any advice please?

clint

when I asked for residency the lady at our comune asked for marriage certificate translation but she accepted my verbal translation there and then

I found this on the comune di Firenze site http://www.comune.firenze.it/servizi...i/anagrafe.htm

Traduzioni e legalizzazione di documenti
Se il documento in lingua straniera deve essere tradotto e legalizzato per l'invio in Italia, occorre rivolgersi alla rappresentanza italiana nei vari paesi di origine dello straniero.
This bit says that if the document needs to be translated and legalised (I assume they mean apostilled) prior to coming to Italy this can be done at one of the Italian representative offices (usually consulate) in that country

Se il documento in lingua straniera è già in Italia bisogna rivolgersi o presso il Tribunale di Firenze dove esiste un albo dei traduttori ufficiali o presso una delle tante agenzie private specializzate in questo tipo di servizio.

If the document is in a foreign langauge and it is already in Italy one has to ask either at the Tribunale di Firenze where there is a register of official translator or one of the many private agencies specialised in this type of service.

Basically reading in between the lines you need a sworn translation, traduzione giurata

jeffcoy

Thanks, I thnik we will have to send the certificates to one of the Embassy official translators as a first step. Will let you know how we get on.

Lorna at Vicenza

Wait before sending off birth certificates.

Nobody ever asked for mine which was a good thing as I never had a copy of it until I sent off for one last year - and this page from the Firenze Comune website says nothing about birth certificates either....

Documentazione da presentare. Il cittadino comunitario avente un autonomo diritto di soggiorno che intenda rimanere oltre i tre mesi in Italia e stabilire il proprio domicilio abituale nel Comune di Firenze deve presentare la seguente documentazione:
EU citizens intending to stay more than 3 months in Italy and reside in the Comune of Firenze must show the foloowing documentation:

° Passaporto, Carta d'Identità nazionale o Carta d'Identità Italiana in corso di validità di ciascuno dei componenti;
Passport
° oltre a ciò dovrà essere presentata la documentazione di seguito riportata:

Se lavoratore dipendente :

-Contratto di lavoro subordinato registrato.

(N.B.: Per i cittadini della Romania e della Bulgaria per l'esercizio di talune attività lavorative è necessario il nullaosta dello Sportello Unico per l'Immigrazione)

Se lavoratore autonomo:

-Documento attestante l'iscrizione ad una Camera di Commercio o Partita IVA.

Se studente (corsi d'istruzione o di formazione professionale):

-Documentazione attestante l'iscrizione presso un Istituto Pubblico o Privato riconosciuto;

-Dimostrazione di disponibilità finanziaria;

-Polizza di Assicurazione Sanitaria di copertura delle spese sanitarie o altro titolo idoneo.

Se non appartenente alle precedenti categorie:

-Dimostrazione della disponibilità delle risorse economiche sufficienti al soggiorno per sè e per i propri familiari;
Be able to prove enough finances for himself and any other family members.

-Polizza di Assicurazione Sanitaria di copertura delle spese sanitarie.
Private insurance for health coverage.
N.B.Il coniuge, i discendenti diretti di età inferiore a 21 anni o a carico e quelli del coniuge del cittadino comunitario avente un autonomo diritto di soggiorno, nonchè gli ascendenti diretti a carico e quelli del coniuge, tutti aventi la cittadinanza in uno Stato Membro, oltre alla documentazione sopra riportata devono presentare:

-un documento in originale e copia attestante la qualità di familiare o di familiare a carico: Certificazione nazionale debitamente legalizzata, fatti salvi accordi internazionali, tradotta dall'Ambasciata Italiana dello specifico Stato, comprendente i dati di stato civile ( celibe o nubile, coniugato, vedovanza e/o divorzio, attestazione dei rapporti di parentela).
This bit talks about certificates showing marriage etc. but the other page says that these kind of things can be "auto-certificato" by EU citizens so I would go back with this info and ask again.

http://centroservizi.lineacomune.it/...munitario.html

bricwood

Just like to say my medical insurance that got my residency was only 500 Euro it is not much to get residency, I am not sure how good it would be if I was ill though, proof of earnings and bank statements I don't think they check up on very thoroughly so work that out yourself its not hard to make a bill head!

debra

Ok I am confused as usual!!

Residency no problem we have had that for over 3 years. As some of you may know we decided to move back to the UK for the winter, things are not entirely working out here so am thinking of returning to Italy for a couple of years (full time). I never actually bothered to register with a doctor in Italy, just thought I would register when I needed one.

However, looking at another site it would appear laws were changed a while ago and unless you have 5 years residency and been paying into the system you will not be covered by medical insurance in Italy??? Anybody got any guidance on this or does it just depend on your commune?

If we do need private medical insurance any recommendations?

I wish they would stop changing the laws, it's hard enough already

Thanks

Lorna at Vicenza

The law changed in 2007.
Unless you are working here and therefore paying tax or a pensioner, you are supposed to provide proof of funds and health insurance when you apply for residency in ANY comune.
Did you cancel your names from the anagrafe when you left?

debra

No we did not cancel our names as far as I am aware the residency is ok unil 2011.

Lorna at Vicenza

Then you won't have the problem of applying for residency.

If you didn't already have a health card (either paper or plastic) though you won't be entitled to use the NHS here.

Does 2011 bring you to 5 years or not?