Getting information of a cars previous owner?
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
Surely, it's the number plate tied to the chasis? You can change number plates, but the chasis number remains the same. All ACI need is the chasis number to get the history of the car from the PRA up until it was exported. There are on-line agencies that do the work too.
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
I'm absolutely sure the chassis number IS tied to the car number plate(s) and the previous owner(s) in the records. Also sure there's a way of tracing the history of a car via its chassis number. Don't the police do that sort of thing ?
In fact I thought that was part of the raison d'ĂȘtre of a chassis number - http://posizionetelai.it/?page_id=227
If the agency write back in Italian tell us and someone'll translate it.
I expect they'll mention fees. That'll be the ACI/PRA fees (for each car) and the agency's own fees.
At some time you'll need to tell them the chassis numbers. Do it like this
FIAT 500 - numero telaio XXXXXXXX
FERRARI TESTAROSSA - numero telaio XXXXXX
APE 50 - numero telaio XXXXXXXX
Have you got the logbook ("carta di circolazione", commonly called a "libretto") for any of them ?
In fact I thought that was part of the raison d'ĂȘtre of a chassis number - http://posizionetelai.it/?page_id=227
If the agency write back in Italian tell us and someone'll translate it.
I expect they'll mention fees. That'll be the ACI/PRA fees (for each car) and the agency's own fees.
At some time you'll need to tell them the chassis numbers. Do it like this
FIAT 500 - numero telaio XXXXXXXX
FERRARI TESTAROSSA - numero telaio XXXXXX
APE 50 - numero telaio XXXXXXXX
Have you got the logbook ("carta di circolazione", commonly called a "libretto") for any of them ?
Online - agencies, any one you could point me to? As said, my Italian is non-existing. Again, I am 100% sure its recorded, the trick is to get hold of the info....
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
bump reg online agencies...
have emailed 4 I found online but no one is getting back to me, any suggestions??
thanks
have emailed 4 I found online but no one is getting back to me, any suggestions??
thanks
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
It is not a suprise that no one has replied to your emails. That is what we are up against here all the time.
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
Can't recommend any personally. The ACI is probably the best option. However, I took a peak and you'd need to provide a 'codice fiscale' - a sort of tax number. Do you have one? And I popped in to our local ACI and ask what you needed to do. They said that a 'visura' only provides the current state of the car on the PRA -Italian register. So, surely it would just show as being exported? Though it would possibly show the last number plate, but I didn't ask that. If you want the car's history, you need an 'estratto cronologico'. That takes a few days. It is just a 'bit of paper' and has no legal standing. Would it be enough for the Swedish authorities?
It is not a suprise that no one has replied to your emails. That is what we are up against here all the time.
It is not a suprise that no one has replied to your emails. That is what we are up against here all the time.
I think the 'estratto cronologico' would work just fine, if the Swedes want to check it up they can contact they colleagues in Italy...
Hmm, yeah, living in Germany I dont have to deal with no replies to my emails, so still need to learn...
BWT, I like that there are 2 simultaneous treads going on here, if I hand around long enough I may even pick up some Italian....
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
However first lesson of Italiano commerciale at Istituto Tecnico per periti aziendali was how an Italian business letter shoud be set out ie where addresses, dates etc should go and how people/organisation should be addressed spettabile for companies, alla cortese attenzione del Sig/ra ... .
If no department/person is known then I was told to use a chi di spettenza meaning a chi di dovere
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
I have seen that used too
However first lesson of Italiano commerciale at Istituto Tecnico per periti aziendali was how an Italian business letter shoud be set out ie where addresses, dates etc should go and how people/organisation should be addressed spettabile for companies, alla cortese attenzione del Sig/ra ... .
If no department/person is known then I was told to use a chi di spettenza meaning a chi di dovere
However first lesson of Italiano commerciale at Istituto Tecnico per periti aziendali was how an Italian business letter shoud be set out ie where addresses, dates etc should go and how people/organisation should be addressed spettabile for companies, alla cortese attenzione del Sig/ra ... .
If no department/person is known then I was told to use a chi di spettenza meaning a chi di dovere
ciao for now,
'o nonno
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Re: Getting information of a cars previous owner?
Can't recommend any personally. The ACI is probably the best option. However, I took a peak and you'd need to provide a 'codice fiscale' - a sort of tax number. Do you have one? And I popped in to our local ACI and ask what you needed to do. They said that a 'visura' only provides the current state of the car on the PRA -Italian register. So, surely it would just show as being exported? Though it would possibly show the last number plate, but I didn't ask that. If you want the car's history, you need an 'estratto cronologico'. That takes a few days. It is just a 'bit of paper' and has no legal standing. Would it be enough for the Swedish authorities?
It is not a suprise that no one has replied to your emails. That is what we are up against here all the time.
It is not a suprise that no one has replied to your emails. That is what we are up against here all the time.
Please? thanks for all your help so far!!!
PS: As said before, happy to pay for the help if needed. we just need to something over to the Swedes...
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