Computer help - security
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Hi ononno
I can empathise. Our laptops were taken over by the same Mcafee monster. OH took out a new subscription for the upgraded Mcafee after having naively thought that renewing a subscription included the upgrade. But the upgrade was still problematic. Despite many hours on the phone to kindly, patient 'helpers' at Mcafee things did not improve.
So we defected to Norton and have been delighted. We got the 3 computer deal that Domino refers to and Norton now chunters away discreetly in the background. Yes, a bit nannyish but so far trouble free.
Good luck!
I can empathise. Our laptops were taken over by the same Mcafee monster. OH took out a new subscription for the upgraded Mcafee after having naively thought that renewing a subscription included the upgrade. But the upgrade was still problematic. Despite many hours on the phone to kindly, patient 'helpers' at Mcafee things did not improve.
So we defected to Norton and have been delighted. We got the 3 computer deal that Domino refers to and Norton now chunters away discreetly in the background. Yes, a bit nannyish but so far trouble free.
Good luck!
With regard to Norton, watch the prices on Amazon and PCWorld websites, they do vary during the year, the 2011 version (due for replacement) is now 40% + higher than it was around April.
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used clamwin for ten years, no problem , I must admit the only files I download is from the BBC Iplayer, If you are downloading dodgy stuff its different maybe, I use firefox and chrome and they put downloads somewhere you can check them, moral is dont download porn if you care for your eye sight!!, steer clear of all dodgy sites, I also check emails on the server, macafee screwed millions of computers recently , what sort of firm is that?, clamwin was formally called nod I think and you had to buy it, some of the best stuff is free, nortons, macafee, avg, tie computers in nots , you are using the processor to continually scan for what? , I read that nortons works by every time you boot up checking for any changes , imagine the work involved, believe duffer or me the choice is yours
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http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/
Amazon prices are so dynamic that you have no idea if a product on offer with lets say 60% discount was available with an even bigger discount previously.
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used clamwin for ten years, no problem , I must admit the only files I download is from the BBC Iplayer, If you are downloading dodgy stuff its different maybe, I use firefox and chrome and they put downloads somewhere you can check them, moral is dont download porn if you care for your eye sight!!, steer clear of all dodgy sites, I also check emails on the server, macafee screwed millions of computers recently , what sort of firm is that?, clamwin was formally called nod I think and you had to buy it, some of the best stuff is free, nortons, macafee, avg, tie computers in nots , you are using the processor to continually scan for what? , I read that nortons works by every time you boot up checking for any changes , imagine the work involved, believe duffer or me the choice is yours
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I use this site to check previous prices on Amazon -
http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/
Amazon prices are so dynamic that you have no idea if a product on offer with lets say 60% discount was available with an even bigger discount previously.
http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/
Amazon prices are so dynamic that you have no idea if a product on offer with lets say 60% discount was available with an even bigger discount previously.

seems Norton 360 is currently stable, but I have noticed Amazon is full of business winning prices - from companies with no stock.
#22
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You could run a computer happily without anti virus! just don't go where you should not go, don't open attachments for people you don't know, the only virus I ever got was by clicking on a link that I really knew I should not, clamwin is as good as it gets, I am not afraid to spend money on software and have spent plenty over the years, duffer I always visualise you in a dirt mac, I have just reviewed clamwin on CNET so I am not afraid to back it , read my other reviews there!
#23
I'm sure you visualise lots of boys in dirty macs when you're surfing the net you filthy old fart.
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You could run a computer happily without anti virus! just don't go where you should not go, don't open attachments for people you don't know, the only virus I ever got was by clicking on a link that I really knew I should not, clamwin is as good as it gets, I am not afraid to spend money on software and have spent plenty over the years, duffer I always visualise you in a dirt mac, I have just reviewed clamwin on CNET so I am not afraid to back it , read my other reviews there!
how can most people who don't understand about cookies know if a site has a reputation for viral activity. ? how can they know if an attachment to an email will open pandora's box for oohh nasty's.?
why promote an Aussie open source product when the jury is after a number of years still out on open source.?
for £3 per month on a single computer a professional anti virus etc software will do most of the work for the unwary. the only thing it cannot do is to stop someone pressing that button but it will have given warnings.
I have been involved in telecoms and computers for 40 years and work on the principle that if you are a professional you will have been bitten at least once, in the same way as a professional electrician will have had at least one jolt to talk about.
perhaps you ought to go back to your roses - no, watch it, they have thorns on them for the unwary as well.
#25
I work on PC all day everyday....I use
http://www.malwarebytes.org (malwarebytes anti-malware)
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html (spybot search and destroy)
ANTIVIRUS (paid) http://www.kaspersky.com
If you download them PLEASE READ FIRST!!!! The top two have free versions that is what I use,
http://www.malwarebytes.org (malwarebytes anti-malware)
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html (spybot search and destroy)
ANTIVIRUS (paid) http://www.kaspersky.com
If you download them PLEASE READ FIRST!!!! The top two have free versions that is what I use,
#26
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Just an update on what I did. Well, I kicked out McAfee, and got a much faster computer. However, being me, I started to worry about security. So I followed the advice to get hold of AVG and Tune Up Utilities. Spent a whole morning messing about with them. Discovered 4 security issues that must have entered the laptop last time I was in the UK with it, nearly 4 years ago, - they originated from a BT dialup thingy. McAfee never ever showed these up. Long story short, computer is still slower than without any security at all; but I feel happier and more in control with the AVG stuff.All other suggestions also taken on board.
ciao for now,
'o nonno
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From: In the middle of 10million Olive Trees











Just an update on what I did. Well, I kicked out McAfee, and got a much faster computer. However, being me, I started to worry about security. So I followed the advice to get hold of AVG and Tune Up Utilities. Spent a whole morning messing about with them. Discovered 4 security issues that must have entered the laptop last time I was in the UK with it, nearly 4 years ago, - they originated from a BT dialup thingy. McAfee never ever showed these up. Long story short, computer is still slower than without any security at all; but I feel happier and more in control with the AVG stuff.All other suggestions also taken on board.
ciao for now,
'o nonno
at the end of the day its what the individual feels happy with, but for most getting a program to do it for you for £3 a month is far better than trying to fight your way through things, especially if you end up anywhere near the Register.
rgds
#28
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From: Rome, Italy

Another vote for Microsoft Security Essentials. It offers realtime protection and all of that and I have had zero problems in the two years or so that I've been using it. I run it alongside PrevX for extra protection. I use the internet the whole working day and more and surf all over the place.
For years I used the free version of AVG, which always performed well, but was becoming more and more bloated and intrusive. MSE works in the background without any problem at all.
For years I used the free version of AVG, which always performed well, but was becoming more and more bloated and intrusive. MSE works in the background without any problem at all.
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I use Malwarebytes, Spybot, and Avast (and sometimes a bit of AVG). All free. All work.
For my mac its a different story. Bought macKeeper - looks good doesnt get rid of bad things, whereas MacScan (currently on trial) finds lots of tracking cookies - admittedly not the most dangerous thing in the world, but....
Had McAfee, NOrton etc all slowed down the computer too much. At the moment Im a big Avast fan - but Im sure it wont last.
For my mac its a different story. Bought macKeeper - looks good doesnt get rid of bad things, whereas MacScan (currently on trial) finds lots of tracking cookies - admittedly not the most dangerous thing in the world, but....
Had McAfee, NOrton etc all slowed down the computer too much. At the moment Im a big Avast fan - but Im sure it wont last.



