Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
Jan 13th 2009 | 10:01 am
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
Not necessarily, (with my non PC hat on) many workforce studies have shown that migrants from HR countries (read what you will into HR) have much more difficulty in securing jobs related to their skills and qualifications when in Australia than those from LR (read what you will into LR) countries.
The Australian government is obviously aware of this and have takes steps to address it through increasing English language requirements etc, but they are not stupid and tune the system to achieve the outcomes they desire. From OZ Gov's point of view there is little point in granting visas to people with CSL skills if they are going to end up labouring on a buliding site or driving taxis.
Also Australia is expecting a lot of CSL list Australian expats to return home.
The Australian government is obviously aware of this and have takes steps to address it through increasing English language requirements etc, but they are not stupid and tune the system to achieve the outcomes they desire. From OZ Gov's point of view there is little point in granting visas to people with CSL skills if they are going to end up labouring on a buliding site or driving taxis.
Also Australia is expecting a lot of CSL list Australian expats to return home.
Labouring on a building site would be too much like hard work for some of them I am afraid.
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Jan 13th 2009 | 1:03 pm
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
As a result of this announcement from 1 January 2009 applications for
General Skilled Migration will be strictly allocated and processed in the
following priority order:
1. Applications with a successful State & Territory Nomination (until
all applications have been allocated); and then
2. Applications where the nominated occupation is on the Critical
Skills List (until all applications have been allocated); then
3. Applications where the nominated occupation is on the Migration
Occupations in Demand List (until all applications have been allocated);
then
4. All other remaining applications
General Skilled Migration will be strictly allocated and processed in the
following priority order:
1. Applications with a successful State & Territory Nomination (until
all applications have been allocated); and then
2. Applications where the nominated occupation is on the Critical
Skills List (until all applications have been allocated); then
3. Applications where the nominated occupation is on the Migration
Occupations in Demand List (until all applications have been allocated);
then
4. All other remaining applications
Jan 13th 2009 | 1:28 pm
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
With all due respect to those who are frustrated by the change in processing priorities, it is surely the responsibility of Australia's Immigration Minister to decide which skilled people are most required in Australia?
The skilled program is not limitless in terms of the number of visas that are granted each year, and as such I suggest it makes sense from the Australian perspective to focus on the skilled applicants who are most likely to meet ongoing skilled requirements.
Best regards to all.
The skilled program is not limitless in terms of the number of visas that are granted each year, and as such I suggest it makes sense from the Australian perspective to focus on the skilled applicants who are most likely to meet ongoing skilled requirements.
Best regards to all.
But it can get very frustrating being stuck in limbo not knowing what will happen. Especially with the state of the global economy meaning that the immigration program can take unexpected turns.
The new CSL list is going to help my application along. However I hope that there won't be any unforeseen changes to immigration which could put my application on hold.
Jan 13th 2009 | 3:05 pm
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It is clear from today's update that ASPC is not going to touch applications with lower priority until all cases above them are finished.
However I think this is not a sustainable plan because there are always new applications coming, so technically there will never be a moment when ALL higher priority cases are finished. It will become a last-come-first-served situation... If you are categorised as the lowest priority like me, it could take a miracle for COs to reach you...
However I think this is not a sustainable plan because there are always new applications coming, so technically there will never be a moment when ALL higher priority cases are finished. It will become a last-come-first-served situation... If you are categorised as the lowest priority like me, it could take a miracle for COs to reach you...
I guess that when they have cleared the backlog of the above then they will start on the backlog of others whilst continuing to process any new priority cases.
Incidentally does anyone know where 475 (SIR) comes in priority as its provisional not PR but is state sponsored?
Jan 13th 2009 | 3:23 pm
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So does anyone know when they WILL look at non csl, non modl, non state sponsored? As there are always going to be receiving these.
I guess that when they have cleared the backlog of the above then they will start on the backlog of others whilst continuing to process any new priority cases.
Incidentally does anyone know where 475 (SIR) comes in priority as its provisional not PR but is state sponsored?
I guess that when they have cleared the backlog of the above then they will start on the backlog of others whilst continuing to process any new priority cases.
Incidentally does anyone know where 475 (SIR) comes in priority as its provisional not PR but is state sponsored?
they stated they will clear State & Territory nominated applicants in 1 month times, that is due on 13th Feb 2009. then they will move onto next, which i guess will be applicant on CSL, we'll have to wait until the update email status change to "processing CSL Applicant" and so forth. i guess no one will be able to estimate the ever changing DIAC processing
Jan 13th 2009 | 6:11 pm
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
from the email update,
they stated they will clear State & Territory nominated applicants in 1 month times, that is due on 13th Feb 2009. then they will move onto next, which i guess will be applicant on CSL, we'll have to wait until the update email status change to "processing CSL Applicant" and so forth. i guess no one will be able to estimate the ever changing DIAC processing
they stated they will clear State & Territory nominated applicants in 1 month times, that is due on 13th Feb 2009. then they will move onto next, which i guess will be applicant on CSL, we'll have to wait until the update email status change to "processing CSL Applicant" and so forth. i guess no one will be able to estimate the ever changing DIAC processing
Jan 13th 2009 | 6:44 pm
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
It's in the standard reply from [email protected] now.
Jan 13th 2009 | 10:01 pm
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Ex-exile you hit the nail on the head there mate. Many applicants come with the correct skills (apparently), the correct qualifications (apparently) but their difficulty in english or maybe just because they have a very difficult accent puts employers off..... and you are correct they are now driving Taxis or working in petrol stations.
Labouring on a building site would be too much like hard work for some of them I am afraid.
Labouring on a building site would be too much like hard work for some of them I am afraid.
If that was a big issue then they could raise the IELTS score requirement or apply other relevant criteria. I think it'd be perfectly reasonable for them to want to pick out the most promising would-be immigrants. As a future Australian I want them to.
But to apply your description on all HR applicants is reductionistic, and giving a blanket priority to LR applicants would not be in line with how Australia usually describes itself.
Personally we're HR applicants and got top scores on IELTS, we live and have successful careers in England, and frankly we speak better English than some of the "natives". We have CSL skills, but in the hypothetical event that Australian employers won't hire us in similar positions as we have now, we'll pack up and leave. You might not call us "typical" HR immigrants, but neither are the people you described above.
Jan 13th 2009 | 10:38 pm
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If that was a big issue then they could raise the IELTS score requirement or apply other relevant criteria. I think it'd be perfectly reasonable for them to want to pick out the most promising would-be immigrants. As a future Australian I want them to.
But to apply your description on all HR applicants is reductionistic, and giving a blanket priority to LR applicants would not be in line with how Australia usually describes itself.
Personally we're HR applicants and got top scores on IELTS, we live and have successful careers in England, and frankly we speak better English than some of the "natives". We have CSL skills, but in the hypothetical event that Australian employers won't hire us in similar positions as we have now, we'll pack up and leave. You might not call us "typical" HR immigrants, but neither are the people you described above.
But to apply your description on all HR applicants is reductionistic, and giving a blanket priority to LR applicants would not be in line with how Australia usually describes itself.
Personally we're HR applicants and got top scores on IELTS, we live and have successful careers in England, and frankly we speak better English than some of the "natives". We have CSL skills, but in the hypothetical event that Australian employers won't hire us in similar positions as we have now, we'll pack up and leave. You might not call us "typical" HR immigrants, but neither are the people you described above.
Saying that HR applicants end up in other positions because of their english language may be true for some applicants but defiantly not all.
Jan 13th 2009 | 10:44 pm
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
If that was a big issue then they could raise the IELTS score requirement or apply other relevant criteria. I think it'd be perfectly reasonable for them to want to pick out the most promising would-be immigrants. As a future Australian I want them to.
But to apply your description on all HR applicants is reductionistic, and giving a blanket priority to LR applicants would not be in line with how Australia usually describes itself.
Personally we're HR applicants and got top scores on IELTS, we live and have successful careers in England, and frankly we speak better English than some of the "natives". We have CSL skills, but in the hypothetical event that Australian employers won't hire us in similar positions as we have now, we'll pack up and leave. You might not call us "typical" HR immigrants, but neither are the people you described above.
But to apply your description on all HR applicants is reductionistic, and giving a blanket priority to LR applicants would not be in line with how Australia usually describes itself.
Personally we're HR applicants and got top scores on IELTS, we live and have successful careers in England, and frankly we speak better English than some of the "natives". We have CSL skills, but in the hypothetical event that Australian employers won't hire us in similar positions as we have now, we'll pack up and leave. You might not call us "typical" HR immigrants, but neither are the people you described above.
Ok ok...I am sorry but I was only agreeing with ex-exile and my own observations from living in Australia for just over 4 years.
well obviously the above does not apply to you...... so you should not be so worried.
It would not be true in all cases.
But I know for a fact that when my manager is shortlisting applicants for a vacant position, any with a name that he cant pronounce is filed into the round filing cabinet.
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Jan 13th 2009 | 11:04 pm
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
Probably your boss could not pronounce my married surname. I have problems pronouncing it myself. But I am a British citizen, a native English speaker, highly qualified graduate of one of the best Scottish universties, I speak 2 languages and I have worked for 10 years for one of the biggest and most successful multinationals in the world today. Yet your boss would throw my application in the bin as soon as he saw my name?! I find that hard to believe at best. At worst it's beyond stupid. Tbh I find some of your comments about HR immigrants offensive.
Jan 13th 2009 | 11:12 pm
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Probably your boss could not pronounce my married surname. I have problems pronouncing it myself. But I am a British citizen, a native English speaker, highly qualified graduate of one of the best Scottish universties, I speak 2 languages and I have worked for 10 years for one of the biggest and most successful multinationals in the world today. Yet your boss would throw my application in the bin as soon as he saw my name?! I find that hard to believe at best. At worst it's beyond stupid. Tbh I find some of your comments about HR immigrants offensive.
Jan 13th 2009 | 11:33 pm
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Probably your boss could not pronounce my married surname. I have problems pronouncing it myself. But I am a British citizen, a native English speaker, highly qualified graduate of one of the best Scottish universties, I speak 2 languages and I have worked for 10 years for one of the biggest and most successful multinationals in the world today. Yet your boss would throw my application in the bin as soon as he saw my name?! I find that hard to believe at best. At worst it's beyond stupid. Tbh I find some of your comments about HR immigrants offensive.
Jan 13th 2009 | 11:48 pm
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Probably your boss could not pronounce my married surname. I have problems pronouncing it myself. But I am a British citizen, a native English speaker, highly qualified graduate of one of the best Scottish universties, I speak 2 languages and I have worked for 10 years for one of the biggest and most successful multinationals in the world today. Yet your boss would throw my application in the bin as soon as he saw my name?! I find that hard to believe at best. At worst it's beyond stupid. Tbh I find some of your comments about HR immigrants offensive.
There are probably people who post on this forum who applied for that particular position...... if so they probably ruined it for people like yourself.
Jan 14th 2009 | 1:50 am
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Re: Won't be allocated in "the current program year"!?
Hey guys
Can I know what is STANDARD time for CO allocation for HR country - 175?
I have been not allocated CO in last one year.. I do not know what to do.. should i continue with my accounting job or switch to better paying job in this recession time..............
I am freaking out.. when will i get co..
Thanks:curse:
Can I know what is STANDARD time for CO allocation for HR country - 175?
I have been not allocated CO in last one year.. I do not know what to do.. should i continue with my accounting job or switch to better paying job in this recession time..............
I am freaking out.. when will i get co..
Thanks:curse:
I have haerd that a 175 December 2007 aspirant from a HR country has got his VISA today. You are in queue buddy and will get VISA soon.
Regards
Sanjay
