Ways to emigrate to Oz
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Ways to emigrate to Oz
We have been advised by an agent that we could go to Oz on a Business Visa the way it works is as follows:
We go to Oz for say 3 months to have a good look around and look at potential businesses to buy. If we buy a going concern then all we have to do is have it turning over $200k per annum and employ 2 Oz nationals within 4 years and then bingo you get PR. It all seems to easy and I don't read anyone else on this site doing using the same method - have we been misled or it simply that most people don't want to be self employed out there?
We go to Oz for say 3 months to have a good look around and look at potential businesses to buy. If we buy a going concern then all we have to do is have it turning over $200k per annum and employ 2 Oz nationals within 4 years and then bingo you get PR. It all seems to easy and I don't read anyone else on this site doing using the same method - have we been misled or it simply that most people don't want to be self employed out there?
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
Hi Empyrean,
You can obtain a subclass 457 independent executive visa if you have A$250k
available and a satisfactory business plan. One simple way of putting
together a satisfactory business plan is purchasing an existing business;
however, you can only apply for that visa overseas, so your agent should be
telling you the bit about going home and waiting.
The agent should also tell you that a careful business plan could save you
the hassle of buying something which turns out to be useless. We have had a
number of examples of this brought to our attention over the years, so my
advice is don't buy anything which relies on goodwill, promised planning
approval, vendor remaining in employment with you ...
Also, for a later pr application, the established business in Australia
category has its pitfalls. Principal among these is the risk that you may
not meet the turnover and staffing requirements for reasons outside of you
control. Details of this category are under "business" on our website.
Cheers
George Lombard
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"empyrean" wrote in message
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> We have been advised by an agent that we could go to Oz on a Business
> Visa the way it works is as follows:
> We go to Oz for say 3 months to have a good look around and look at
> potential businesses to buy. If we buy a going concern then all we have
> to do is have it turning over $200k per annum and employ 2 Oz nationals
> within 4 years and then bingo you get PR. It all seems to easy and I
> don't read anyone else on this site doing using the same method - have
> we been misled or it simply that most people don't want to be self
> employed out there?
> --
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You can obtain a subclass 457 independent executive visa if you have A$250k
available and a satisfactory business plan. One simple way of putting
together a satisfactory business plan is purchasing an existing business;
however, you can only apply for that visa overseas, so your agent should be
telling you the bit about going home and waiting.
The agent should also tell you that a careful business plan could save you
the hassle of buying something which turns out to be useless. We have had a
number of examples of this brought to our attention over the years, so my
advice is don't buy anything which relies on goodwill, promised planning
approval, vendor remaining in employment with you ...
Also, for a later pr application, the established business in Australia
category has its pitfalls. Principal among these is the risk that you may
not meet the turnover and staffing requirements for reasons outside of you
control. Details of this category are under "business" on our website.
Cheers
George Lombard
--
www.austimmigration.com.au
"empyrean" wrote in message
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> We have been advised by an agent that we could go to Oz on a Business
> Visa the way it works is as follows:
> We go to Oz for say 3 months to have a good look around and look at
> potential businesses to buy. If we buy a going concern then all we have
> to do is have it turning over $200k per annum and employ 2 Oz nationals
> within 4 years and then bingo you get PR. It all seems to easy and I
> don't read anyone else on this site doing using the same method - have
> we been misled or it simply that most people don't want to be self
> employed out there?
> --
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
Hi emp, if u don't mind me asking but how much does it cost for u to get advice from an agent?
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empyrean wrote in message news:...
> We have been advised by an agent that we could go to Oz on a Business
> Visa the way it works is as follows:
> We go to Oz for say 3 months to have a good look around and look at
> potential businesses to buy. If we buy a going concern then all we have
> to do is have it turning over $200k per annum and employ 2 Oz nationals
> within 4 years and then bingo you get PR. It all seems to easy and I
> don't read anyone else on this site doing using the same method - have
> we been misled or it simply that most people don't want to be self
> employed out there?
I suppose you are talking about Business Skills Visa.
There are four different categories i.e. Business Owner Visa, Senior
Executive Visa, State or Territory sponsored Business Owner Visa and
Investor Visa.
To meet the criteria of these categories you have to score minimum
points which are gained on the basis of your Business background,
Labour Costs, Total Assets,and Business employing the applicant (in
case of senior executive.
In case of Investment Visa you (along with your partner) need to have
minimum A$700,000 plus other business attributes.
The best way is to go to Australia on a Long Stay business Visa under
which you can either start your own business or buy an existing
business in Australia. The business should be beneficial to Australian
economy. This is a temporary visa for 4 years. You will need to run
the business for 18 months if it is a new business. Otherwise you can
buy a running business in Australia.
After 9 months you can apply for Permanent Business Visa.
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> We have been advised by an agent that we could go to Oz on a Business
> Visa the way it works is as follows:
> We go to Oz for say 3 months to have a good look around and look at
> potential businesses to buy. If we buy a going concern then all we have
> to do is have it turning over $200k per annum and employ 2 Oz nationals
> within 4 years and then bingo you get PR. It all seems to easy and I
> don't read anyone else on this site doing using the same method - have
> we been misled or it simply that most people don't want to be self
> employed out there?
I suppose you are talking about Business Skills Visa.
There are four different categories i.e. Business Owner Visa, Senior
Executive Visa, State or Territory sponsored Business Owner Visa and
Investor Visa.
To meet the criteria of these categories you have to score minimum
points which are gained on the basis of your Business background,
Labour Costs, Total Assets,and Business employing the applicant (in
case of senior executive.
In case of Investment Visa you (along with your partner) need to have
minimum A$700,000 plus other business attributes.
The best way is to go to Australia on a Long Stay business Visa under
which you can either start your own business or buy an existing
business in Australia. The business should be beneficial to Australian
economy. This is a temporary visa for 4 years. You will need to run
the business for 18 months if it is a new business. Otherwise you can
buy a running business in Australia.
After 9 months you can apply for Permanent Business Visa.
Host
[email protected]
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
Originally posted by jkpake:
Hi emp, if u don't mind me asking but how much does it cost for u to get advice from an agent?
Hi emp, if u don't mind me asking but how much does it cost for u to get advice from an agent?
We have spoken with two. The first one did an assessment for us for £100 but when we went to visit we didn't get a good feeling about the organisation (it seemed a bit fly by night) so we found another one. The second one is an Oz lawyer who is living over here and specialising in immigration. She didn't charge us for the initial meeting (which lasted over an hour) and she has quoted us ballpark figures of c £6k for a biz visa. I think you would find that a Skilled Migrant Visa would be cheaper say £3/4k
Hope this helps
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by immigrationcafe:
I'd just like to thank the two contributors who have given such lengthy and informative responses - very helpful
Thank you
I'd just like to thank the two contributors who have given such lengthy and informative responses - very helpful
Thank you
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by empyrean:
So the time u spent with this solicitor how much did it cost u for the advice they had given?
Originally posted by immigrationcafe:
I'd just like to thank the two contributors who have given such lengthy and informative responses - very helpful
Thank you
I'd just like to thank the two contributors who have given such lengthy and informative responses - very helpful
Thank you
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jkpake:
So the time u spent with this solicitor how much did it cost u for the advice they had given? [/QUOTE
I'm not sure what you mean but as I said in my earlier response she didn't charge us.
Sorry if I've misunderstood your question
So the time u spent with this solicitor how much did it cost u for the advice they had given? [/QUOTE
I'm not sure what you mean but as I said in my earlier response she didn't charge us.
Sorry if I've misunderstood your question
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
GBP3-4k is very high for a skilled visa.
Most Australian agents could beat that price very significantly,
especially if you're paying in pounds translated to A$ dollars.
Jeremy
>On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:42:30 +0000, empyrean wrote:
>Originally posted by jkpake:
>> Hi emp, if u don't mind me asking but how much does it cost for u to
>> get advice from an agent?
>Hi
>We have spoken with two. The first one did an assessment for us for
>£100 but when we went to visit we didn't get a good feeling about the
>organisation (it seemed a bit fly by night) so we found another one.
>The second one is an Oz lawyer who is living over here and specialising
>in immigration. She didn't charge us for the initial meeting (which
>lasted over an hour) and she has quoted us ballpark figures of c £6k for
>a biz visa. I think you would find that a Skilled Migrant Visa would be
>cheaper say £3/4k
>Hope this helps
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Most Australian agents could beat that price very significantly,
especially if you're paying in pounds translated to A$ dollars.
Jeremy
>On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:42:30 +0000, empyrean wrote:
>Originally posted by jkpake:
>> Hi emp, if u don't mind me asking but how much does it cost for u to
>> get advice from an agent?
>Hi
>We have spoken with two. The first one did an assessment for us for
>£100 but when we went to visit we didn't get a good feeling about the
>organisation (it seemed a bit fly by night) so we found another one.
>The second one is an Oz lawyer who is living over here and specialising
>in immigration. She didn't charge us for the initial meeting (which
>lasted over an hour) and she has quoted us ballpark figures of c £6k for
>a biz visa. I think you would find that a Skilled Migrant Visa would be
>cheaper say £3/4k
>Hope this helps
>--
>Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
Originally posted by empyrean:
Hi
We have spoken with two. The first one did an assessment for us for £100 but when we went to visit we didn't get a good feeling about the organisation (it seemed a bit fly by night) so we found another one. The second one is an Oz lawyer who is living over here and specialising in immigration. She didn't charge us for the initial meeting (which lasted over an hour) and she has quoted us ballpark figures of c £6k for a biz visa. I think you would find that a Skilled Migrant Visa would be cheaper say £3/4k
Hope this helps
Hi
We have spoken with two. The first one did an assessment for us for £100 but when we went to visit we didn't get a good feeling about the organisation (it seemed a bit fly by night) so we found another one. The second one is an Oz lawyer who is living over here and specialising in immigration. She didn't charge us for the initial meeting (which lasted over an hour) and she has quoted us ballpark figures of c £6k for a biz visa. I think you would find that a Skilled Migrant Visa would be cheaper say £3/4k
Hope this helps
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Re: Ways to emigrate to Oz
Hi i have applied for the 457 visa and hope to be in oz for xmas,
my agent charged us £1800 and was ok
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> Originally posted by empyrean:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > We have spoken with two. The first one did an assessment for us for
> > £100 but when we went to visit we didn't get a good feeling about the
> > organisation (it seemed a bit fly by night) so we found another one.
> > The second one is an Oz lawyer who is living over here and
> > specialising in immigration. She didn't charge us for the initial
> > meeting (which lasted over an hour) and she has quoted us ballpark
> > figures of c £6k for a biz visa. I think you would find that a
> > Skilled Migrant Visa would be cheaper say £3/4k
> >
> > Hope this helps
> Wow! - £6k for a 457ie visa is extortionate. Our agent in London got
> our 457ie with consumate ease and it cost about £2k think. Email me
> direct (look it up in the member listings) and i'll give you details
> if you want.
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my agent charged us £1800 and was ok
"Jonothan" wrote in message
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> Originally posted by empyrean:
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > We have spoken with two. The first one did an assessment for us for
> > £100 but when we went to visit we didn't get a good feeling about the
> > organisation (it seemed a bit fly by night) so we found another one.
> > The second one is an Oz lawyer who is living over here and
> > specialising in immigration. She didn't charge us for the initial
> > meeting (which lasted over an hour) and she has quoted us ballpark
> > figures of c £6k for a biz visa. I think you would find that a
> > Skilled Migrant Visa would be cheaper say £3/4k
> >
> > Hope this helps
> Wow! - £6k for a 457ie visa is extortionate. Our agent in London got
> our 457ie with consumate ease and it cost about £2k think. Email me
> direct (look it up in the member listings) and i'll give you details
> if you want.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com