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Old Nov 14th 2010, 9:27 pm
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Just an enquiry if you guys can help...

If myself and my mother wanted to live in Australia..what are our options? We're in a tricky situation...

My mum is too old now to be the applicant for a visa so it would be myself...i'm 20 just now...21 in April and I don't have any trade qualifications or any qualifications specifically for a career.

Is there any way we can both get in to live permanently in Australia with me working to gain residence?

I would just like to know our options if there are any.

Thanks in advance...Stacey
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Old Nov 14th 2010, 9:41 pm
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Why dont you come as an international student first if you have the funds. Once in Australia you can work and hopefully pay your fees.
Once you finish your study you can apply for immigration.
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Old Nov 14th 2010, 9:58 pm
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Thanks for that but I really need something that my mum can come with me, not leaving her in the UK by herself.

Needing something secure.

I would need to work right away to support us both.


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Originally Posted by SweetyStacey
Thanks for that but I really need something that my mum can come with me, not leaving her in the UK by herself.

Needing something secure.

I would need to work right away to support us both.


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There is no visa which would allow your mother to come with you.

If you had a permanent visa you may be able to sponsor her for a parent visa in the future if she passes the balance of family test.
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No dis-respect but on the immigration australia website it says that the "Employer Nomination Scheme (subclass 121) visa" allows me to bring eligible family members...which would be my mum since she has a physical disability that doesnt allow her to work for herself.

I'm just not sure what that visa entails, wither I would have to have a specialised qualification...even though when it asked me the question about having a qualification on the SOL list before bringing me to that particular visa.


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Originally Posted by SweetyStacey
No dis-respect but on the immigration australia website it says that the "Employer Nomination Scheme (subclass 121) visa" allows me to bring eligible family members...which would be my mum since she has a physical disability that doesnt allow her to work for herself.

I'm just not sure what that visa entails, wither I would have to have a specialised qualification...even though when it asked me the question about having a qualification on the SOL list before bringing me to that particular visa.


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The sticking point is whether she has an independent source of income.If you are from the UK its very difficult to prove that a parent is totally dependent because of the welfare and pension system. Thats not saying its impossible, but its very tricky. I would suggest talking to a registered migration agent if you want to try and prove dependency for her.
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Well right now she isn't dependant on me...i'm not really wanting to get into the details here..but there is a pending divorce and if we move to australia she will definately be dependant on me.

Is there any advisors I could email rather than phone about this?


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Originally Posted by SweetyStacey
Well right now she isn't dependant on me...i'm not really wanting to get into the details here..but there is a pending divorce and if we move to australia she will definately be dependant on me.

Is there any advisors I could email rather than phone about this?


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Lots of agents on the forum - have a look for threads called things like "recommend an agent" - any agents using the forum have their contact details in their signatures and most can be emailed. I have used George Lombard myself in the past but there are a lot of others around too

What you need to think about is whether your mother would be eligible for welfare payments after her divorce. If so, it may be hard to prove dependency. Thats even before you start to look at whatever her disability is, which may mean she can't pass a medical. The medical guru, as far as agents go, is a guy called Peter Bollard.
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Thanks Polly, been a real help

Just trying to weigh up our options ya know.

We were looking at New Zealand for years but we were only getting in under my fathers skilled migrant visa...so yeah.


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Originally Posted by SweetyStacey
Well right now she isn't dependant on me...i'm not really wanting to get into the details here..but there is a pending divorce and if we move to australia she will definately be dependant on me.

Is there any advisors I could email rather than phone about this?


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Whether she would be dependant on you in Australia doesn't matter. The main point is whether she is your dependent NOW. If she has a physical disability it might also cause her to fail the medical exam.

It is very difficult (as Polly said) to prove a parent in countries like UK with the pension and welfare systems is a dependent.

ENS is also a great option, however if you have no skill on the list how are you going to qualify for that? Do you have an employer lined up who's willing to sponsor you?

Sorry to sound so negative, but if you are just 21 now you could look at going back to uni to get a qualification and the requisite work experience and then apply. In total it would take you about 5-6 years. Not a long time when you're only 21.
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Like I said Dorothy, i'm not wanting to go into full details about our situation.

I have considered going back to uni but because of our situation we don't have that amount of time. We need to get out of the UK ASAP, even more so as of late and i'm just weighing up our options.

Since i'm weighing up our options I was only asking about that particular visa as if we were to go with that one I would try my best to get a offer of employment.


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Originally Posted by SweetyStacey
Like I said Dorothy, i'm not wanting to go into full details about our situation.

I have considered going back to uni but because of our situation we don't have that amount of time. We need to get out of the UK ASAP, even more so as of late and i'm just weighing up our options.

Since i'm weighing up our options I was only asking about that particular visa as if we were to go with that one I would try my best to get a offer of employment.


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Then why not look at moving someplace in the EU where you won't need to apply for visas and pass medicals. Spain is an option if you are looking for warmth.
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Yeah we also considered. We've been researching and looking into New Zealand for years and just feel our hearts belong there for many reasons.

But if it's not possible then what can ya do.


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Originally Posted by SweetyStacey
Like I said Dorothy, i'm not wanting to go into full details about our situation.

I have considered going back to uni but because of our situation we don't have that amount of time. We need to get out of the UK ASAP, even more so as of late and i'm just weighing up our options.

Since i'm weighing up our options I was only asking about that particular visa as if we were to go with that one I would try my best to get a offer of employment.


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Stacey, you don't have to go into any details. It is a simple answer. You will not be able to bring your mother as a dependent. This is because the UK has a welfare state. Your mum will not be dependent upon you after her divorce, even if you feel she will be ... she isn't.

The only options for your mother are either that she herself finds an employer sponsor and together they can make a case for waiving the age rules. Or you obtain permanent residency, settle in Australia and then sponsor your mother for a parent visa.

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Or you both marry Aussies.
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