Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
#31
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by sa2oz
In real terms whether it is 2 or 4 years will not significantly change things for people coming here to live.
However, introducing a sort of English language test and/or citizenship test might preclude people who don't have English skills and/or aren't willing/able to integrate into Australian mainstream society from successfully applying for citizenship.
Peter
#32
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by ptlabs
Definitely. Upping the residential period from 2 to 4 years won't really affect wannabe citizens who plan to reside in Australia indefinitely/long term.
Peter
Peter
In 4 years you might be too old!
#33
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Will the new rules be applicable to PR's who have not validated their
visa ? I plan to travel for evidencing in the 1st week of february.
alok
visa ? I plan to travel for evidencing in the 1st week of february.
alok
#34
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by sour kraut
Well, it might have an effect for instance, if you want to represent a sports team and need citizenship for that, and as you won't be able to compete with them, you won't be able to take part at all.
In 4 years you might be too old!
In 4 years you might be too old!
Some sports allow permanent residents to represent their adopted countries, so you could always check with the appropriate governing body.
Peter
#35
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
FYI, the Citizenship Bill 2005 is currently being debated in the House of Representatives. You can find the Hansard for yesterday's debate here: http://www.aph.gov.au/Hansard/reps/dailys/dr311006.pdf (the debate starts on page 2 - (p19 of the .pdf file)).
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by saraliz
FYI, the Citizenship Bill 2005 is currently being debated in the House of Representatives. You can find the Hansard for yesterday's debate here: http://www.aph.gov.au/Hansard/reps/dailys/dr311006.pdf (the debate starts on page 2 - (p19 of the .pdf file)).
#37
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by Pollyana
Thanks for the link - a VERY interesting debate
Yes.. very interesting. With all the debate going on it certainly doesn't look like it will go through on January 27th as planned.
#38
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by comet555
Yes.. very interesting. With all the debate going on it certainly doesn't look like it will go through on January 27th as planned.
#39
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
There was just a lot of opposition to the governments change from the agreed upon 3 years to 4. I'm not entirely sure about how the system works out there, but generally when there is a lot of opposition to parts of the bill then things don't get passed immediately.
#40
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
What does everyone else think? Well... those that actually read most of the link.
Haley
Haley
#41
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by comet555
There was just a lot of opposition to the governments change from the agreed upon 3 years to 4. I'm not entirely sure about how the system works out there, but generally when there is a lot of opposition to parts of the bill then things don't get passed immediately.
And although the Labor Party is not keen on the 4 years, they like other aspects of the Bill and say they won't oppose it in principle.
#42
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by JAJ
The government has a majority in both Houses ...
Good News PR's outside OZ will get some time to arrange for their move.
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...6-announce.htm
And although the Labor Party is not keen on the 4 years, they like other aspects of the Bill and say they won't oppose it in principle.
Good News PR's outside OZ will get some time to arrange for their move.
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...6-announce.htm
And although the Labor Party is not keen on the 4 years, they like other aspects of the Bill and say they won't oppose it in principle.
On 2 November 2006, the Australian Government tabled amendments to the Australian Citizenship Bill 2005 for consideration by Parliament.
The amendments included changes to the residence requirements for Australian citizenship announced by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs, Andrew Robb, on 17 September 2006.
The proposed residential requirements would not apply to people who become permanent residents before the new Act commences. They would only be required to meet the current two-year residential qualifying period provided they apply for citizenship within three years of commencement of the new Act.
Consideration by the Parliament of the changes to citizenship legislation currently before it is not now expected to be completed until at least the Autumn Sittings in 2007. Accordingly it is not expected that the new Act would come into effect before 1 July 2007.
Arvind
#43
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by asaxena
Australian Citizenship Bill amendments tabled in Parliament
On 2 November 2006, the Australian Government tabled amendments to the Australian Citizenship Bill 2005 for consideration by Parliament.
The amendments included changes to the residence requirements for Australian citizenship announced by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs, Andrew Robb, on 17 September 2006.
The proposed residential requirements would not apply to people who become permanent residents before the new Act commences. They would only be required to meet the current two-year residential qualifying period provided they apply for citizenship within three years of commencement of the new Act.
Consideration by the Parliament of the changes to citizenship legislation currently before it is not now expected to be completed until at least the Autumn Sittings in 2007. Accordingly it is not expected that the new Act would come into effect before 1 July 2007.
Arvind
On 2 November 2006, the Australian Government tabled amendments to the Australian Citizenship Bill 2005 for consideration by Parliament.
The amendments included changes to the residence requirements for Australian citizenship announced by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs, Andrew Robb, on 17 September 2006.
The proposed residential requirements would not apply to people who become permanent residents before the new Act commences. They would only be required to meet the current two-year residential qualifying period provided they apply for citizenship within three years of commencement of the new Act.
Consideration by the Parliament of the changes to citizenship legislation currently before it is not now expected to be completed until at least the Autumn Sittings in 2007. Accordingly it is not expected that the new Act would come into effect before 1 July 2007.
Arvind
Gr8 News before hearing Biggest 1(OZ visa)
#44
Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by asaxena
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Consideration by the Parliament of the changes to citizenship legislation currently before it is not now expected to be completed until at least the Autumn Sittings in 2007. Accordingly it is not expected that the new Act would come into effect before 1 July 2007.
Arvind
Consideration by the Parliament of the changes to citizenship legislation currently before it is not now expected to be completed until at least the Autumn Sittings in 2007. Accordingly it is not expected that the new Act would come into effect before 1 July 2007.
Arvind
It was good news already that current PRs would not be affected by this new bill, but it now looks like I would complete the required 2-year residency even before the new rule commences. Oh well...
#45
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Sorry, I'm just trying to get this straight in my head. We are hoping to be granted our 136 skilled Ind. in January 07. Are we then classed as permanent residents by our grant letter or do we have to enter Australia and validate the visa before we are classed as PR's???