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Green Grass Jan 5th 2012 6:16 pm

Spouse Visa Thread continued - 2012-2014
 
A question please on the de facto application pack I'm sending off in 2 weeks time...finally! This might seem obvious, or daft to some but what is the best way to present all the information?

I mean, do you present the pack in chronological order to the checklist they provide? In which case, the de facto relationship evidence (which is huge) comes after most other information provided but before the police certificates.

I appreciate this may sound daft, but without using staples and paper clips which they don't want, what is the best way to present the information without bits getting lost, or possibly seen.

I'm probably worrying over nothing but any advice (apart from 'get a grip :D) would be helpful

Thanks



MODS NOTE - THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PREVIOUS SPOUSE VISA THREAD, WHICH CAN BE FOUND HERE

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=704602

greenlady Jan 5th 2012 8:06 pm

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Green Grass - I don't think it matters that much, but I did it roughly in this order:
Covering letter
Application forms (Main applicant followed by sponsor)
Certified copies of Birth cert, passports, etc
Personal statements
Declarations on form 88 (I think or was it 888?).
A few photos copied onto 3 sheets of paper
Evidence of address and joint bills etc at the end
(we did police certificate later)

I would hope they are quite thorough and don't lose anything or fail to see anything! I doubt they would penalise you for the order but HTH anyway.

Oh and DONT forget the payment mandate! THAT's the most important bit really :) that went first after the covering letter.

moneypenny20 Jan 6th 2012 12:35 am

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Originally Posted by Green Grass (Post 9823137)

I appreciate this may sound daft, but without using staples and paper clips which they don't want, what is the best way to present the information without bits getting lost, or possibly seen.

Nothing is likely to get lost or missed. The envelope gets opened and all the stuff inside gets scanned. Just put everything in a 'sensible' order, ie your app, your sponsors app, other official stuff, background stuff. No clips, cover sheets (other than the one at the top listing everything below it). Panic not, DIAC have done this many many times. ;) It'll all be good. :D

SillyOldBag Jan 6th 2012 3:15 am

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9823749)
Nothing is likely to get lost or missed. The envelope gets opened and all the stuff inside gets scanned. Just put everything in a 'sensible' order, ie your app, your sponsors app, other official stuff, background stuff. No clips, cover sheets (other than the one at the top listing everything below it). Panic not, DIAC have done this many many times. ;) It'll all be good. :D

I think just about everybody who has ever applied for a spouse visa, myself included, has felt a bit uncomfortable sending in the application unclipped/unbound/unstapled/undivided in any way - it just goes against the natural order of things! As moneypenny says though, it is what they want and a happy DIAC is a visa granting DIAC :rofl: ... I can't ever recall reading about anyone saying that x,y,z document was mislaid due to the lack of attaching devices.

Green Grass Jan 6th 2012 8:29 am

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Thanks to all for your guidance and reassurance :)

Pollyana Jan 6th 2012 12:35 pm

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Originally Posted by SillyOldBag (Post 9823900)
I think just about everybody who has ever applied for a spouse visa, myself included, has felt a bit uncomfortable sending in the application unclipped/unbound/unstapled/undivided in any way - it just goes against the natural order of things! As moneypenny says though, it is what they want and a happy DIAC is a visa granting DIAC :rofl: ... I can't ever recall reading about anyone saying that x,y,z document was mislaid due to the lack of attaching devices.

I know I've said this before, but for the benefit of newer posters - in the days when Moneypen and I got our Spouse visas they could be issued over the counter in London. When I got mine it was granted in 40 minutes, in person, by my case officer. She told me then about the scanning, and how they really loved it when people didn't use paperclips and staples etc. i told her then that I'd pass on the info, so for anyone who is worried - please don't be, you are just making your COs day a lot easier :)

aaronknol Jan 7th 2012 12:19 pm

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I will be applying for partner migration through marriage. My husband (who will be my sponsor) is Australian and we have a daughter that will be an Australian citizen by the time we apply (she's currently British).

I'm unsure whether my husband will need a police check- the document checklist part of the form says:

If there is a child aged under 18 years included in the application:
  • if the sponsor has spent a total of 12 months or more in Australia since turning 16, an AFP National Police Check for the sponsor
  • police certificates from each country in which the sponsor had spent a total of 12 months or more in the last 10 years since turning 16 years of age

It's the included in application part that I'm unsure about. I will enter her details in the section about my family, so I think that means she's included?

MadMuvva Jan 7th 2012 1:05 pm

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Hello

i am new! My hubby is applying for a job in Oz. He is Australian and I am British. I saw it costs £1345 for a visa. Is that it or are there other costs?

Also, have been reading here about evidence? I just assumed (maybe wrongly that being married for 9yrs would be sufficient. Have I really got to dig out electricity bills and whatnot to prove we are together? Holy moly, what a carry on. I can see why they do it to prevent fraud but you'd be hard pressed to live with someone for 9 years if it wasn't genuine.

Does anyone know processing times too? Kids can get passports - is this fairly straightforward/quick too?

Thanks loads.

Pollyana Jan 7th 2012 2:19 pm

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Originally Posted by MadMuvva (Post 9826711)
Hello

i am new! My hubby is applying for a job in Oz. He is Australian and I am British. I saw it costs £1345 for a visa. Is that it or are there other costs?

Also, have been reading here about evidence? I just assumed (maybe wrongly that being married for 9yrs would be sufficient. Have I really got to dig out electricity bills and whatnot to prove we are together? Holy moly, what a carry on. I can see why they do it to prevent fraud but you'd be hard pressed to live with someone for 9 years if it wasn't genuine.

Does anyone know processing times too? Kids can get passports - is this fairly straightforward/quick too?

Thanks loads.

You need to read Booklet 1 from DIAC, that tells you all about the evidence etc.

Current visa charges are here - http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/990i.htm but you will also need a police check and medical.

greenlady Jan 7th 2012 5:07 pm

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Aaronknol - your situation sounds the same as mine except I am the sponsor and my husband is British we have a 21 month old daughter. She now has Australian (and British) citizenship and she is NOT included in the application because she is Australian anyway. So you don't have to worry about that bit - I was confused when I read that bit too. I think it's only for non- Australian children.

Madmuvva - we just did the medical and it was £270, so bear that expense in mind. There's also the cost of certifying documents if you don't know anyone who can do that for you. Postage, photocopying etc.
The chIlds passport isn't too bad but also costs about £80 I think. We got my daughters passport really quickly about 3 days after we put the application but I think they tell you 10 days. Also re evidence - I agree I've been married 6 years but together for 12. You still have to submit evidence to show you live together but I imagine they just need to tick all the boxes as such but I would think your application is one of the straight forward ones.

greenlady Jan 7th 2012 5:12 pm

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Ps the current timeline they advise is 6 months for the partner visa. It's no quicker if you've been married for ages I don't think, but I'll let you know if we get a pleasant surprise!

dalam Jan 9th 2012 5:01 am

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Hi All
My partner will apply for 676 Visit after spouse visa 309 applyed to visit me here in australia before approving spouse visa.Is there any problem to do so?

Thanks:)

Prudi Jan 9th 2012 12:40 pm

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Hi dalam,

As far as I know, there is no problem with applying for the tourist visa after applying for the partner visa. However, your partner must let the case officer responsible for the partner visa know what his/her plans are. I imagine that there will be a section on the 676 form to declare if the applicant knows anyone in Australia, in which case s/he would have to declare you. It's then up to DIAC to decide whether or not to grant the tourist visa, which may go either way if your partner is from a high risk country and they think there is a risk of overstaying the visa. Your partner would have to be offshore when the spouse visa is granted.

Hope that's some help. :)
Pru.

MadMuvva Jan 9th 2012 12:46 pm

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thanks Greenlady. TBH all sounds a nightmare and wondering if it right thing to do for what it will cost to go. I have loads of questions and will need to find right parts of forum for them.

Hubby applying for job offering relocation assistance but not sure how much.

ttfn.xx

dalam Jan 9th 2012 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Prudi (Post 9830376)
Hi dalam,

As far as I know, there is no problem with applying for the tourist visa after applying for the partner visa. However, your partner must let the case officer responsible for the partner visa know what his/her plans are. I imagine that there will be a section on the 676 form to declare if the applicant knows anyone in Australia, in which case s/he would have to declare you. It's then up to DIAC to decide whether or not to grant the tourist visa, which may go either way if your partner is from a high risk country and they think there is a risk of overstaying the visa. Your partner would have to be offshore when the spouse visa is granted.

Hope that's some help. :)
Pru.

Thanks for ur apply
Can she apply Partner and tourist VISA at same day?

Green Grass Jan 9th 2012 1:01 pm

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Originally Posted by dalam (Post 9830397)
Thanks for ur apply
Can she apply Partner and tourist VISA at same day?

My partner received her tourist visa in November and is applying for de facto visa in January. I expect that as long as you advise the case officer of your intentions, it shouldn't matter when you get your tourist visa approved. The most important thing is you ensure you tell your case officer that you intend to VISIT Australia (excuse the rude capitalisation) during your partner visa application process. Let them know that that you understand you have to be off shore when the visa is granted (fact) and that if they decline your partner visa application, you understand you will have to leave Australia prior to expiry of your tourist visa.

greenlady Jan 9th 2012 8:09 pm

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Originally Posted by MadMuvva (Post 9830385)
thanks Greenlady. TBH all sounds a nightmare and wondering if it right thing to do for what it will cost to go. I have loads of questions and will need to find right parts of forum for them.

Hubby applying for job offering relocation assistance but not sure how much.

ttfn.xx

Only you can decide whether it's what you want or not. For me personally I've been living in London for 12 years and I am desperate to move home to be with my family. My husband wasn't ready a few years ago but now he is, I'm grabbing it with both hands no matter the cost.
Also although we haven't got ours yet by far the biggest palaver is the initial application making sure you everything right. They took the money straight away so the expense is behind us too.
I hope you reach a happy decision whichever way good luck x

EDIT the visa cost is behind us not the cost of relocating...

aaronknol Jan 9th 2012 8:16 pm

Re: Spouse Visa Circle continued - Dec 2010 onwards
 
Thanks very much for your help, greenlady. Glad to hear a police check won't be required!

greenlady Jan 9th 2012 8:50 pm

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Originally Posted by aaronknol (Post 9831199)
Thanks very much for your help, greenlady. Glad to hear a police check won't be required!

You will still need to do one as the non-australian partner, but I was told to submit the application first then the CO would request it later. Also please double check with DIAC in case I'm wrong about your original question but that's how it was for me. Hth

dalam Jan 9th 2012 11:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Green Grass (Post 9830421)
My partner received her tourist visa in November and is applying for de facto visa in January. I expect that as long as you advise the case officer of your intentions, it shouldn't matter when you get your tourist visa approved. The most important thing is you ensure you tell your case officer that you intend to VISIT Australia (excuse the rude capitalisation) during your partner visa application process. Let them know that that you understand you have to be off shore when the visa is granted (fact) and that if they decline your partner visa application, you understand you will have to leave Australia prior to expiry of your tourist visa.

Thanks for your suggestion

mike_leaving_the_uk Jan 10th 2012 4:17 pm

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Originally Posted by mike_leaving_the_uk (Post 9795241)
Submitted mine in October and had a CO within the week. Medicals and police checks are all in and last week got this e-mailed to me:



Has anybody else got one of these?

Getting more and more tempting to go out on an ETA while it is finalised - good excuse to pop to NZ or Asia for a short holiday when it is finally granted.

Mike

Good News Time!!!!
Just spoken to my CO as we had planned to travel out in March regardless and nip in and out as required. She said my Visa was confirmed just not awarded and if I gave her my flight dates she would sort it so on the 1st March I am off - just need to tell work, pack up the house and all the other crap!!

Seems like they are just looking to process at a nice steady rate wouldn't want too many getting in now would we!! At least I know the civil service will remind me of home!
:):D:thumbsup::thumbup::eek::cool::)

Sav Jan 10th 2012 4:20 pm

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Good stuff Mike!

Mine went in in September so fingers crossed I'll get some good news soon too :)

Pollyana Jan 10th 2012 8:18 pm

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Originally Posted by mike_leaving_the_uk (Post 9833076)
Good News Time!!!!
Just spoken to my CO as we had planned to travel out in March regardless and nip in and out as required. She said my Visa was confirmed just not awarded and if I gave her my flight dates she would sort it so on the 1st March I am off - just need to tell work, pack up the house and all the other crap!!

Seems like they are just looking to process at a nice steady rate wouldn't want too many getting in now would we!! At least I know the civil service will remind me of home!
:):D:thumbsup::thumbup::eek::cool::)

Trust me the Aus Public Service has more red tape than the British!!

greenlady Jan 10th 2012 8:32 pm

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Congrats Mike. Hopefully we're all not too far behind you!

dalam Jan 10th 2012 9:41 pm

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Originally Posted by greenlady (Post 9831183)
Only you can decide whether it's what you want or not. For me personally I've been living in London for 12 years and I am desperate to move home to be with my family. My husband wasn't ready a few years ago but now he is, I'm grabbing it with both hands no matter the cost.
Also although we haven't got ours yet by far the biggest palaver is the initial application making sure you everything right. They took the money straight away so the expense is behind us too.
I hope you reach a happy decision whichever way good luck x

EDIT the visa cost is behind us not the cost of relocating...

Hi
Thanks for your suggestions.
Is there any chance to decline Partner VISA although applicant inform the CO about staying period in Australia under tourist visa 676 and confirm him to leave australia before application approved?

Thanks
MD Alam

dalam Jan 10th 2012 10:05 pm

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Hi All
Good morning.
My partner and me are living separately from August 2011 as I have shifted to Syd.In case of applying partner VISA to show continuing relationship, is it require to drop mail/phone etc communication of full period of temporary separation or one/two month are quite enough to show the continuing relation?

I would like to mention we married ecah other at May 2010.

Thanks
MD Alam

moneypenny20 Jan 11th 2012 2:59 am

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Originally Posted by dalam (Post 9833916)
Hi All
Good morning.
My partner and me are living separately from August 2011 as I have shifted to Syd.In case of applying partner VISA to show continuing relationship, is it require to drop mail/phone etc communication of full period of temporary separation or one/two month are quite enough to show the continuing relation?

I would like to mention we married ecah other at May 2010.

Thanks
MD Alam

One or two a month is fine, they don't need to see everything.

Prudi Jan 11th 2012 8:24 am

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Originally Posted by mike_leaving_the_uk (Post 9833076)
Good News Time!!!!

:):D:thumbsup::thumbup::eek::cool::)

Yay! Congrats, Mike! :thumbsup:

dalam Jan 11th 2012 9:19 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9834382)
One or two a month is fine, they don't need to see everything.

Thanks moneypenny20 for your reply.
I have another two questions:
1. In case of fill up the form(47Sp and 40Sp),instruction to use pen.Can I computer compose the form?
2. I have a doctor advice of Australia that he support my wife's partner application as my medical condition is not good and my wife need to be with me.Is is letter help to get VISA earlier or it makes application weeker as CO will think she is persuing to make the application faster?

Thanks:D

moneypenny20 Jan 13th 2012 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by dalam (Post 9836417)
Thanks moneypenny20 for your reply.
I have another two questions:
1. In case of fill up the form(47Sp and 40Sp),instruction to use pen.Can I computer compose the form?
2. I have a doctor advice of Australia that he support my wife's partner application as my medical condition is not good and my wife need to be with me.Is is letter help to get VISA earlier or it makes application weeker as CO will think she is persuing to make the application faster?

Thanks:D

You couldn't do it by computer when I did mine. I have no idea if it's changed. If you have a medical condition, it's going to show when you do your meds. If you have any background information on it then you take that along to the meds and the Doc will attach it all to the form. If you want to include any further info to your application, you can. It's unlikely to speed anything up, regardless of length of relationship etc, they are all taking roughly the same amount of time.

Pollyana Jan 13th 2012 7:25 am

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Originally Posted by dalam (Post 9833849)
Hi
Thanks for your suggestions.
Is there any chance to decline Partner VISA although applicant inform the CO about staying period in Australia under tourist visa 676 and confirm him to leave australia before application approved?

Thanks
MD Alam

Yes of course there is. Regardless of whether she has a tourist visa she still needs to meet the criteria for the Spouse visa.

dalam Jan 13th 2012 8:45 am

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9839654)
You couldn't do it by computer when I did mine. I have no idea if it's changed. If you have a medical condition, it's going to show when you do your meds. If you have any background information on it then you take that along to the meds and the Doc will attach it all to the form. If you want to include any further info to your application, you can. It's unlikely to speed anything up, regardless of length of relationship etc, they are all taking roughly the same amount of time.

Thanks for your reply.
So, as per your feedback,form can be fill up by computer.

Pollyana Jan 13th 2012 9:15 am

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Originally Posted by dalam (Post 9839848)
Thanks for your reply.
So, as per your feedback,form can be fill up by computer.

No, she said she had no idea if it had changed. It hasn't, you can't apply for a Spouse Visa online.

moneypenny20 Jan 14th 2012 1:14 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 9839881)
No, she said she had no idea if it had changed. It hasn't, you can't apply for a Spouse Visa online.

I didn't even consider he meant applying online :lol: I just seem to remember when I did mine that I considered using the PDF, typing in my responses and then printing it and sending it in but I couldn't. Don't know if that ability has changed, fairly sure it hasn't but not certain.

Green Grass Jan 15th 2012 12:53 pm

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Hi, I expect to be heading offshore in around 6 months time (with my partner to get her de facto partner visa) and was planning a trip to New Zealand. When they tell you to go offshore, how long do you need to go offshore for and does it only take a few days for the visa to be granted?

I saw a post elsewhere on the forum that in Auckland, it takes several days for passports to get the visa put in, I think because they get it posted to them once you ask for it. Any idea if this is true?

Thanks

dalam Jan 15th 2012 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9841244)
I didn't even consider he meant applying online :lol: I just seem to remember when I did mine that I considered using the PDF, typing in my responses and then printing it and sending it in but I couldn't. Don't know if that ability has changed, fairly sure it hasn't but not certain.

Yes,I want to fill up form/PDF by computer;print it and send to
but few parts will be fill up by pen that are payment details and signature.

Sav Jan 17th 2012 7:45 am

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I filled in my forms on the PC last year - I was (if memory serves) advised to do so by my agent - with no issues.

dalam Jan 18th 2012 9:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Sav (Post 9847338)
I filled in my forms on the PC last year - I was (if memory serves) advised to do so by my agent - with no issues.

Thanks for sharing:D

khdmah Jan 19th 2012 4:22 am

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Hi All,

In form 80, I had queries for following questions

Q no 34 Proposed arrival details ??
As i will be waiting for my partner visa approval so cannot set any date

Q no 35 Are you applying for a temporary visa?
If i answer yes then as well it asked about departure date and flight number

Thanks

moneypenny20 Jan 19th 2012 7:44 am

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Originally Posted by khdmah (Post 9851583)
Hi All,

In form 80, I had queries for following questions

Q no 34 Proposed arrival details ??
As i will be waiting for my partner visa approval so cannot set any date

Q no 35 Are you applying for a temporary visa?
If i answer yes then as well it asked about departure date and flight number

Thanks

You tell them what they want to know. You don't know when you're likely to arrive because you don't yet have your visa and if you're applying for the Temp Spouse Visa you don't have a return date because you are expecting to convert it to a PR in two years time and it's a permanent move.

Don't look for complications where there are none. Form 80 is a common form for many visas.


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