Pablo L?Nchez

I was wondering if there where any fellows from countries not listed
in the Washington or Sydney accords going through the immigration
process or recently achieved the goal.
Since our countries are not listed in those accords we have to prove
somehow our skills are suitable to the Australian ones.
In general that means a lot of document translation, and I don't mean
only the title or diploma. Looks like nuisance and money wasted, has
anybody found a better way to prove we fit in?
Are there any other accords I am not aware of?

Any comments will be appreciated.

pol

ptlabs

IEAust presently accept qualifications that fall under the Washington and Sydney Accords at face value. No other accords are presently processed this way by IEAust other than these two accords.

There are many who have done their CDR and have gotten a positive skills assessment, so it's not a waste of time or effort or money. Usually, an engineer is one who can document things properly, so a CDR is simply a day's work at the office, albeit a very long-winded exercise!


Good luck

Peter

Pablo L?Nchez

Peter, first of all thanks for your time.

> IEAust presently accept qualifications that fall under the
Washington
> and Sydney Accords at face value. No other accords are presently
> processed this way by IEAust other than these two accords.

I supposed so.

> There are many who have done their CDR and have gotten a positive
skills
> assessment,

I am sure they have.

> so it's not a waste of time or effort or money.

Since I am a Computer engineer, the ACS (not the IEAust) is supposed
to do the assessing, as far as I can see (in their web page), they
don't ask for a Competence Demonstration Report.
And, by the way, it is impossible to get in contact with this people,
there is always a stupid daemon returning my e-mails.
It doesn't make much sense that there are not some sorts of accords or
basis (besides Washington & Sydney) to rule on the skills & experience
recognizing.
Then what are the: NOOSR's Country Education Profiles? And why were
they made for?
How did the NOOSR assessed in the past?

¿Alguien de por estos lares que tenga la posta?

pol

Peter

[email protected] (Pablo L?nchez) wrote in message
    > Since I am a Computer engineer, the ACS (not the IEAust) is supposed
    > to do the assessing, as far as I can see (in their web page), they
    > don't ask for a Competence Demonstration Report.

If you have an engineering degree, IEAust can generally assess your
skills. IEAust can also assess a software engineer's skills, as far as
I know.

Bear in mind that the ACS has a new set of skills assessment
guidelines, effective from Oct 1, 2002, which require that every
applicant to have a minimum of 4 or 6 years of IT experience before a
positive assessment is given.


    > Then what are the: NOOSR's Country Education Profiles? And why were
    > they made for?
    > How did the NOOSR assessed in the past?

The NOOSR CEP is used by DIMIA to determine the relative standing of
each country's educational qualification when compared to an
Australian qualification. Only Australia's and Singapore's CEP are
available online now. You'd have to purchase the CEP for your own
country otherwise, if you are interested to know how DIMIA and your
skills assessing authority would likely visa your degree.

http://www.dest.gov.au/noosr/cep/index.htm


Now, NOOSR is only responsible for teaching occupations only:
http://www.dest.gov.au/noosr/migproc.htm


Peter
P.S. This is the same Peter who replied to you earlier

Pablo L?Nchez

Peter,
Thanks again for your advice.

    > If you have an engineering degree, IEAust can generally assess your
    > skills. IEAust can also assess a software engineer's skills, as far as
    > I know.

Yep, you are right. I've read about some guys having their Computer
engineering's skills assessed by the IEAust.
What I am (still) not sure about is what evidence of grade I should
send to the assessment authority in order to have my skills checked.
The CDR looks like some sort of 3 tales story written by who knows
who.

    > Bear in mind that the ACS has a new set of skills assessment
    > guidelines, effective from Oct 1, 2002, which require that every
    > applicant to have a minimum of 4 or 6 years of IT experience before a
    > positive assessment is given.

Yep, also right. I've already read that.

    > The NOOSR CEP is used by DIMIA to determine the relative standing of
    > each country's educational qualification when compared to an
    > Australian qualification. Only Australia's and Singapore's CEP are
    > available online now. You'd have to purchase the CEP for your own
    > country otherwise, if you are interested to know how DIMIA and your
    > skills assessing authority would likely visa your degree.

Looks like something I also read. But again I went to the
http://www.bookshop.gov.au and tried to by the Country Education
Profiles for my country (Uruguay – South America) and they don't have
it listed in the page!!!! At the beginning I thought, 0k it's because
of my country been so small & unknown but at the end of the search the
only book I could find was the one for Australia. Afterward, I send an
e-mail to the people in charge of the web site and they replied me
that they have it and if I wanted to by it then I should send my
credit card number by e-mail. What's up with this people? Why do they
bother in making a web page it's not going to publish the info they
have?

pol