Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Mar 13th 2005, 4:06 pm
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Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Hi all
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
Mar 13th 2005, 5:18 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by heswallboy
Hi all
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
Parent visas have standard health requirements, and it is highly unlikely that anyone with MS stands a chance (sorry). Cancer normally needs a three year clear period. If you wanted a professional opinion you could contact Peter Bollard in Sydney but don't get your hopes up.
I doubt the answer for the Retirement visa would be any different, and they'd have real problems without access to Medicare, but again you'd need to explore this with a professional like Peter.
Jeremy
Mar 13th 2005, 6:09 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by heswallboy
Hi all
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
Dear HB,
Jeremy's right about the three year remission requirement for cancer. And I'd have thought your m-i-l was also unlikely to get in. I did find one case in the MRT database which permitted an MS sufferer, but he was young and it was an early diagnosis, see:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/di...2003/3991.html
Cheers,
George Lombard
www.austimmigration.com.au
Mar 13th 2005, 6:18 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by George Lombard
Dear HB,
Jeremy's right about the three year remission requirement for cancer. And I'd have thought your m-i-l was also unlikely to get in. I did find one case in the MRT database which permitted an MS sufferer, but he was young and it was an early diagnosis, see:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/di...2003/3991.html
Cheers,
George Lombard
www.austimmigration.com.au
Jeremy's right about the three year remission requirement for cancer. And I'd have thought your m-i-l was also unlikely to get in. I did find one case in the MRT database which permitted an MS sufferer, but he was young and it was an early diagnosis, see:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/di...2003/3991.html
Cheers,
George Lombard
www.austimmigration.com.au
Thanks to both of you
Unfortunately not I guessed as much. After 30 years of pushing, carrying, changing, cooking, cleaning and a true demonstration of "in sickness and in health" it's a shame that you can't get a special category.
I guess SA may have to survive without us.
HB
Mar 13th 2005, 6:48 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by heswallboy
Thanks to both of you
Unfortunately not I guessed as much. After 30 years of pushing, carrying, changing, cooking, cleaning and a true demonstration of "in sickness and in health" it's a shame that you can't get a special category.
I guess SA may have to survive without us.
HB
Unfortunately not I guessed as much. After 30 years of pushing, carrying, changing, cooking, cleaning and a true demonstration of "in sickness and in health" it's a shame that you can't get a special category.
I guess SA may have to survive without us.
HB
Visas are available for 'family reunion' if certain specified criteria are met, but aside from those for spouses and dependent children, these criteria usually include normal health requirements. In very exceptional cases, the Minister acting personally sometimes waives health requirements, but don't count on this happening.
Australia doesn't demand its immigrants be in perfect health, but in general those with serious health issues will not be accepted unless they are spouses or dependent children of Australian citizens and permanent residents. Or if they are humanitarian migrants (refugees).
The fact that the current UK government does not seem to take the same view is something you're free to take up with your MP, or better still, express your feeling on at the general election later this year.
Jeremy
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Mar 13th 2005, 7:01 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by JAJ
The view of the Minister and Australian community is clear - if you apply to migrate and get accepted, Australia is accepting *you* plus your spouse and dependents but *not* your parents, brothers/sisters, other relatives etc.
Visas are available for 'family reunion' if certain specified criteria are met, but aside from those for spouses and dependent children, these criteria usually include normal health requirements. In very exceptional cases, the Minister acting personally sometimes waives health requirements, but don't count on this happening.
Australia doesn't demand its immigrants be in perfect health, but in general those with serious health issues will not be accepted unless they are spouses or dependent children of Australian citizens and permanent residents. Or if they are humanitarian migrants (refugees).
The fact that the current UK government does not seem to take the same view is something you're free to take up with your MP, or better still, express your feeling on at the general election later this year.
Jeremy
Visas are available for 'family reunion' if certain specified criteria are met, but aside from those for spouses and dependent children, these criteria usually include normal health requirements. In very exceptional cases, the Minister acting personally sometimes waives health requirements, but don't count on this happening.
Australia doesn't demand its immigrants be in perfect health, but in general those with serious health issues will not be accepted unless they are spouses or dependent children of Australian citizens and permanent residents. Or if they are humanitarian migrants (refugees).
The fact that the current UK government does not seem to take the same view is something you're free to take up with your MP, or better still, express your feeling on at the general election later this year.
Jeremy
Rest assured that I will be voting in 2 ways, with my electoral vote and with my feet.
At 39 I have paid an obscene amount fo Tax in the UK, most of it on income tax & Stamp Duty on property, and now there is a rumour that Mr Brown would consider 40% tax on profit from your primary residence.
Combine this with the fact that the last time we had any form of control of our borders was World War 2 and you get a taste of disillusioned Britain. Even bigger problem, don't see anyone capable of stepping up to the line
Thanks for the advice
HB
Mar 13th 2005, 11:07 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
In article <[email protected]> ,
Heswallboy wrote:
> At 39 I have paid an obscene amount fo Tax in the UK, most of
> it on income tax & Stamp Duty on property,
What makes you think that Australian income tax and stamp duty
are lower? Top rate income tax is 47% and stamp duty on a
mid-price 2-bed flat in Melbourne (A$400K) is fractionally
under 5% according to the site I checked. Petrol is cheap
though.
--
Tony Bryer UK
Heswallboy wrote:
> At 39 I have paid an obscene amount fo Tax in the UK, most of
> it on income tax & Stamp Duty on property,
What makes you think that Australian income tax and stamp duty
are lower? Top rate income tax is 47% and stamp duty on a
mid-price 2-bed flat in Melbourne (A$400K) is fractionally
under 5% according to the site I checked. Petrol is cheap
though.
--
Tony Bryer UK
Mar 14th 2005, 11:12 am
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by Tony Bryer
In article <[email protected]> ,
Heswallboy wrote:
> At 39 I have paid an obscene amount fo Tax in the UK, most of
> it on income tax & Stamp Duty on property,
What makes you think that Australian income tax and stamp duty
are lower? Top rate income tax is 47% and stamp duty on a
mid-price 2-bed flat in Melbourne (A$400K) is fractionally
under 5% according to the site I checked. Petrol is cheap
though.
--
Tony Bryer UK
Heswallboy wrote:
> At 39 I have paid an obscene amount fo Tax in the UK, most of
> it on income tax & Stamp Duty on property,
What makes you think that Australian income tax and stamp duty
are lower? Top rate income tax is 47% and stamp duty on a
mid-price 2-bed flat in Melbourne (A$400K) is fractionally
under 5% according to the site I checked. Petrol is cheap
though.
--
Tony Bryer UK
Point taken Tony
However I don't think moving to Aus is about favourable tax breaks or World Class public transport systems (LOL).
Whilst it will be the tabloid Tory journalism, the thought of 40% tax on house profit angers me(and I am sure many others) as it is the only place that I have put money and saved and could mean in excess of £200k ($500Au). Not something that would please most people.
All the governments preach about encouraging savings and removing the alarming household debts, yet the first benefit question "do you have savings of over £8000, yes, then you can forget these benefits" seems like they give mixed messages.
Anyway, turning into a political thread and should be focusing on the positives of a life abroad. And besides, unless I re marry I am not going to have the privelidge of paying the 47% in Aus
Mar 14th 2005, 11:16 am
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
We've been discussing this 40% on primary residence on AdBrits and generally the consensus is that Brown would be mad to bring this in with a general election round the corner.
So on a purely selfish note, they may decide to bring it in next year but hopefully we'll be long gone!
So on a purely selfish note, they may decide to bring it in next year but hopefully we'll be long gone!
Mar 14th 2005, 11:19 am
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by bridiej
We've been discussing this 40% on primary residence on AdBrits and generally the consensus is that Brown would be mad to bring this in with a general election round the corner.
So on a purely selfish note, they may decide to bring it in next year but hopefully we'll be long gone!
So on a purely selfish note, they may decide to bring it in next year but hopefully we'll be long gone!
(provided the price doesn't go up to much in April)
HB
Mar 14th 2005, 12:04 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
In article <[email protected]> ,
Heswallboy wrote:
> Whilst it will be the tabloid Tory journalism, the thought
> of 40% tax on house profit angers me(and I am sure many
> others)
The Daily Mail/MoS will print anything ahead of an election
that they think will help their cause (not that it worked in
1997 or 2001) - and a bit of idle speculation dressed up as
'news' has obviously had that effect on you. If you asked
someone who actually understood economics to write a paper on
what the effects of imposing CGT would be the conclusion would
also certainly be that there would be winners (those trying to
get on the housing; those whose taxes could be cut/not
increased as a result of the income from this tax) and losers
(all those of us who own property). Someone who understood
politics (as Gordon does) would note that the losers would turn
against you whilst the winners would just take the benefits and
probably not change their political allegiances.
Most people can see that the rise in house prices has given HMG
a nice lot of extra money from stamp duty and inheritance tax,
also CGT on second homes and killing the housing market would
therefore be less than sensible. As someone said years ago "the
art of taxation is to be able to extract the maximum number of
feathers from the goose with the minimum of hissing".
--
Tony Bryer UK
Heswallboy wrote:
> Whilst it will be the tabloid Tory journalism, the thought
> of 40% tax on house profit angers me(and I am sure many
> others)
The Daily Mail/MoS will print anything ahead of an election
that they think will help their cause (not that it worked in
1997 or 2001) - and a bit of idle speculation dressed up as
'news' has obviously had that effect on you. If you asked
someone who actually understood economics to write a paper on
what the effects of imposing CGT would be the conclusion would
also certainly be that there would be winners (those trying to
get on the housing; those whose taxes could be cut/not
increased as a result of the income from this tax) and losers
(all those of us who own property). Someone who understood
politics (as Gordon does) would note that the losers would turn
against you whilst the winners would just take the benefits and
probably not change their political allegiances.
Most people can see that the rise in house prices has given HMG
a nice lot of extra money from stamp duty and inheritance tax,
also CGT on second homes and killing the housing market would
therefore be less than sensible. As someone said years ago "the
art of taxation is to be able to extract the maximum number of
feathers from the goose with the minimum of hissing".
--
Tony Bryer UK
Mar 14th 2005, 12:05 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by heswallboy
Hi all
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
I would seriously consider moving to Aus but my wife won't go unless her parents would consider the move.
They are financially independent, not wishing to draw a pension, which they know they can't do, but we assume that they cannot get in because of health issues - can anyone advise of this is true
My mother in law has had MS for 30 odd years (wheelchair bound.)
My father in law (who deserves a medal for his dedication to his wife) was diagnosed with myloma last year but went through a stem cell transplant and is in complete remission.
Subject to medical insurance and care - would they be refused entry anyway?
Would your wife be happy with getting half the year with her parents?
Tara
Mar 14th 2005, 12:56 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
My father would also like to come over on a parent visa, he is kinda sick but I would like to talk to someone who knows rthe full ins and outs of what is and isn't sick in the Australian governments eyes.
Can anyone reccomend anyone who I could talk to or email with the full details of what is wrong with my dad who might be able to give me a definate yes or no?
Cheers
Kala
Can anyone reccomend anyone who I could talk to or email with the full details of what is wrong with my dad who might be able to give me a definate yes or no?
Cheers
Kala
Mar 14th 2005, 2:31 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by JayDeee
My father would also like to come over on a parent visa, he is kinda sick but I would like to talk to someone who knows rthe full ins and outs of what is and isn't sick in the Australian governments eyes.
Can anyone reccomend anyone who I could talk to or email with the full details of what is wrong with my dad who might be able to give me a definate yes or no?
Cheers
Kala
Can anyone reccomend anyone who I could talk to or email with the full details of what is wrong with my dad who might be able to give me a definate yes or no?
Cheers
Kala
Mar 14th 2005, 3:31 pm
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Re: Retirement & Chronic illness - will it hold back a hero?
Originally Posted by ali south
I would recommend Go Matilda, they have been really helpful giving us advice. Tara
Cheers Tara
Kala