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Old Jan 10th 2003, 4:59 am
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Originally posted by gerein
Is there any 'deeming date' for Accountant ?

I got my skill assessment as an accountant in Nov.2002,
but I got my accounting diploma in 1992 and, got a bechelor in 2001 by parttime-study while I work fulltime as an accountant since 1992.

How many points can I get for working experience by DIMIA ?
Alan's response will be as good as you'll get from anyone in this newsgroup when you ask for opinions on how many points you'll get for work experience.

A one-paragraph statement on your work history will certainly not give anyone any clues to how many points you can claim. If it were that simple, we won't be waiting for 50+ weeks to get a result from DIMIA.


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Old Jan 10th 2003, 5:09 am
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Hello Alan,

I have asked my mate to check his TRA assessment letter regarding the result. Yes, you are absolutely right, and there is a higlighted area saying his Deem Date is 1 Apr, which is exactly after 5 years working exp as a cook in his hotel.

Thanks very much for those explanations, and it helps a lot!
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Old Jan 10th 2003, 5:13 am
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Hi,
I work as accountant foi financial analysis in a company since Jan.1999 and, as a computerized accountant for accounting information management during 1991-1998.

Could DIMIA accept my work experience from 1991 as fulltime accountant or afer i got my bechelor degree in 2001?

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Old Jan 10th 2003, 5:17 am
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As they say in the House of Commons, "I refer the questioner to the answer I gave earlier ...!"

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Originally posted by gerein
Hi,
I work as accountant foi financial analysis in a company since Jan.1999 and, as a computerized accountant for accounting information management during 1991-1998.

Could DIMIA accept my work experience from 1991 as fulltime accountant or afer i got my bechelor degree in 2001?

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Old Jan 10th 2003, 5:20 am
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Originally posted by Alan Collett
As they say in the House of Commons, "I refer the questioner to the answer I gave earlier ...!"
Alan,

The original poster's country in all likelyhood does not have a House of Commons

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Hi Alan, you have been very correct and very helpful. There is a Deemign Date clearly stated at his TRA assessment letter, however, we did not understand how it could affect his application. Thanks very much..
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Hi Qut

I had the same problem and my application was also refused because of the Deeming Date issue.

I had to wait 14 months to find out after I lodged my application, the only good thing was I also applied for STNI from Victoria, so I withdraw my application and reapplied to Adelaide.

We have had a request for Police and Medicals and hope to have visas very shortly.

So don't give up.

All my details on Timeline. Also new e-mail address from timeline is mgrindy(at)hotmail(dot)com

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Old Jan 10th 2003, 12:23 pm
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Just out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to know the policy of the ACS in regards to extensions of their assessments. In other words, would a request for an extension of a pre Oct 1 2002 assessment automatically be turned down unless meeting the 4 year working experience criteria, or would they grant the extension as the applicant already has a valid assessment.

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    > Originally posted by QUT
    > > So what is exactly the DEEMING DATE? Is it the day you receive your
    > > skill assessment from the relavant assessing body?
    > >
    > > But most of the people around me applied maybe just a month after
    > > their asessment results come out, will they all be refused as this
    > > example?
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    > It's not cast in stone that everyone who applies after getting their ACS
    > assessment will automatically fail to get their PR visa. It depends when
    > your 'deeming date' is.
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    > The 'deeming date' for ACS (and TRA) is the date that ACS decides that
    > you have attained your qualification that allows you to work in the IT
    > sector as a skilled professional, consistent with Australian standrads
    > for this market.
 
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Originally posted by ptlabs
Alan's response will be as good as you'll get from anyone in this newsgroup when you ask for opinions on how many points you'll get for work experience.
Actually, there can be more optimistic though less realistic responese, thus not as really good answers as this one from Alan.

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Old Jan 10th 2003, 7:05 pm
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If you need a new ACS assessment because the old one has expired, then
you need to apply again.

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    >On 10 Jan 2003 05:23:03 -0800, [email protected] (Magnus) wrote:
    >Just out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to know the policy of the
    >ACS in regards to extensions of their assessments. In other words,
    >would a request for an extension of a pre Oct 1 2002 assessment
    >automatically be turned down unless meeting the 4 year working
    >experience criteria, or would they grant the extension as the
    >applicant already has a valid assessment.
    >Regards
    >/Magnus

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
 
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I would add to Jeremy's note by saying that if you re-apply to ACS if your existing assessment is due to expire or has expired, you will be subject to the new post-Oct 1, 2002 ACS guidelines.


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Originally posted by Jaj
If you need a new ACS assessment because the old one has expired, then you need to apply again.

Jeremy

    >On 10 Jan 2003 05:23:03 -0800, [email protected] (Magnus) wrote:
    >Just out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to know the policy of the
    >ACS in regards to extensions of their assessments. In other words,
    >would a request for an extension of a pre Oct 1 2002 assessment
    >automatically be turned down unless meeting the 4 year working
    >experience criteria, or would they grant the extension as the
    >applicant already has a valid assessment.
    >Regards
    >/Magnus

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
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Old Jan 11th 2003, 8:11 am
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Hi Jeremy,

Well no, my ACS assessment hasn't expired and I already have my 47sk
application "in the system" since 7 months back. I do know that the
ACS offer extensions of their assessments and I was therefore
wondering, just out of curiousity, if they would grant an extension of
an assessment where the applicant doesn't meet the "new" rules, but
the assessment is still valid as it hasn't expired.

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[email protected] (JAJ) wrote in message news:...
    > If you need a new ACS assessment because the old one has expired, then
    > you need to apply again.
    >
    > Jeremy
    >
    > >On 10 Jan 2003 05:23:03 -0800, [email protected] (Magnus) wrote:
    > >Just out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to know the policy of the
    > >ACS in regards to extensions of their assessments. In other words,
    > >would a request for an extension of a pre Oct 1 2002 assessment
    > >automatically be turned down unless meeting the 4 year working
    > >experience criteria, or would they grant the extension as the
    > >applicant already has a valid assessment.
    > >
    > >Regards
    > >/Magnus
    > >
    >
    > This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
 
Old Jan 11th 2003, 8:41 am
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#### ....deeming dates !!!

I;m glad I submitted my ACS back in Sept 2002, missed the new changes that came into force in Oct, had the letter on the 5 December, and it doesnt mention any deeming date. My ACS case officer said before I would be assessed under the rules pre-Oct.

I dont think it would have been a problem with me due to my experience. But it is another way of holding back the flux of people heading for australia these days !!!!
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Hi Alan

What happens if the deeming date does not exactly state the day/month/year ?

I received my positive Sk.Assessment letter from ACS stating
".. as of March 2000.."

Should I wait until March 1st, 2003 or March 31st, 2003 in order to obtain 10 points for 3 years of specific work experience ?


Thanks
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So with a deeming date of 01/04/2001 the earliest he/she could have met this basic criterion was 31/03/2002, which in turn was the earliest date by which a visa application could have been filed.

Hope this clarifies matters.
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Old Jan 16th 2003, 11:57 am
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Carlos,

Err on the side of caution - ie send your application to Adelaide at the end of March.

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Originally posted by carlitos
Hi Alan

What happens if the deeming date does not exactly state the day/month/year ?

I received my positive Sk.Assessment letter from ACS stating
".. as of March 2000.."

Should I wait until March 1st, 2003 or March 31st, 2003 in order to obtain 10 points for 3 years of specific work experience ?


Thanks
Carlos
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