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INDOAUS Feb 7th 2010 4:41 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by freebo (Post 8320380)
How the press see it (including quotes from Mr Evans)

http://www.smh.com.au/national/austr...0207-nkxh.html

Furthermore opinions from various newspapers:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225827628185
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225827615513
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...7-3102,00.html

DRSAS Feb 7th 2010 4:41 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
Hi Guys,

An applicant on CSL applies on 1-March-10. By Jun-2010 the CSL is phased out.

Would the applicant still be finalized in 12 months?

Regards,

umair Feb 7th 2010 4:43 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by jovipk (Post 8320393)
Hello Umair,

I wish u could get success, despite of improving IELTS, also check for other states like NSW & WA, they also have IT in their list, but they charge a little fees, for WA its 220$, I think so, otherwise the last resort would be Regional state route, but try your IELTS first.

I myself have applied to Vic in Dec'09 but since than no reply, it is very hard to get it, plenty of rush.

What center u have chosen, AEO or British Council, if it was BC than they are very strict in marking, try AEO, but with more practice.

Good Luck!

Hi Jovi,
My concern is I have already made 2 attempts on IELTS and got no more band then 6 in reading. :( I have used AEO.

Regarding the SS I got the inquiry from VIC State within two days of applying and they were asking for my updated Resume.What is your application status in VIC SS tracking page?

kevinkeerie101 Feb 7th 2010 5:03 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
Hi,

I'm confused as to what these changes mean for myself.

I am a joiner/carpenter in Scotland 10+ years experience.

I have booked my vetassess practical for June and would like to apply for my permanent visa if I pass this.. Will I still be able to get a visa now with these changes?

:huh:

janice1uk Feb 7th 2010 5:03 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by jovipk (Post 8320217)
Hi Umair,

So u mean to say that even if DIAC has recieved the 175 application but not yet started to process it (as i haven't got ack.) i am in process applicants.

This sounds really great, I been bit reluctant to send the application.

Still not sure of the future of IT applicants.

All the best!

i would think your only safe if your final application has been submitted and final monies paid to DIAC

cartertucker Feb 7th 2010 5:21 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
I cannot seem to make sense of what it means for applicants such as myself....

Cat 5 SS non csl (currently).....:unsure:

cartertucker Feb 7th 2010 5:23 pm

Re: state migration plan
 
Exactly what I have been wondering

Does this mean that if you are already state sponsered, you are top of the queue....Or does it mean there is going to be another queue to try & join?.....:unsure:

DRSAS Feb 7th 2010 5:29 pm

Interpreting the CSL Phase Out
 
Hi Guys,

An applicant on CSL applies on 1-March-10. By Jun-2010 the CSL is phased out.

Would the applicant still be finalized in 12 months?

Regards,
__________________
Applied for ACS08-Dec-09- Result Oracle Specialist-27-Jan-2010

janice1uk Feb 7th 2010 5:33 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by cartertucker (Post 8320459)
I cannot seem to make sense of what it means for applicants such as myself....

Cat 5 SS non csl (currently).....:unsure:

Caretucker i think we are still cat 5 for the moment anyway so no changes for us just yet.

janice1uk Feb 7th 2010 5:37 pm

Re: state migration plan
 

Originally Posted by cartertucker (Post 8320465)
Exactly what I have been wondering

Does this mean that if you are already state sponsered, you are top of the queue....Or does it mean there is going to be another queue to try & join?.....:unsure:

I think States will have two list. The second list will be like csl hopefully Electricians will be on it then we will move back to Cat2. We are heading to SA how about you.:thumbsup:

shuvo27 Feb 7th 2010 5:42 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
I am on CSL,based on my IT occupation which is in MODL. As now MODL is no longer there, will I be still in MODL? In the site http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...-in-demand.htm states that previous applicants will be judged in MODL. So I hope we will be also judged as CSL.

avi Feb 7th 2010 5:43 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
Hi I am a bit confused well very confused about this now. I am in the process of getting registration with wa nursing board I havent applied form my ens visa yet will these changes affect me? I have a job offer as a new grad but i have a house to sell before we can move out so am very concerned now so any advice would be very welcome.
Thanks
Avi

cartertucker Feb 7th 2010 5:46 pm

Re: state migration plan
 

Originally Posted by janice1uk (Post 8320483)
I think States will have two list. The second list will be like csl hopefully Electricians will be on it then we will move back to Cat2. We are heading to SA how about you.:thumbsup:

My hubby is a roofer & we are heading to WA....

I worry about how long it will be before a new list comes out!....:confused:

shuvo27 Feb 7th 2010 5:51 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
The way things are changing, it is becoming a nerve wrecking roller coaster ride for everyone who either applied or intends to apply.I can only pray that they can stick to some decision and give us some breathing space. We would really appreciate if the process is not made too confusing. And also, are they giving it a thought that, if they tend to change things like this and this trend gets publicized, skilled people in future will think twice before applying for aussie migration and rather prefer for some other destination as they can never be sure about whats gonna happen after they apply.:confused:

capetosydney Feb 7th 2010 5:56 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by shuvo27 (Post 8320494)
I am on CSL,based on my IT occupation which is in MODL. As now MODL is no longer there, will I be still in MODL? In the site http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...-in-demand.htm states that previous applicants will be judged in MODL. So I hope we will be also judged as CSL.

For pre-8th Feb applicants MODL still applies and still exist, it is only for new applicants that MODL is no longer there. So for you nothing has really changed, and by definition you should still be on current CSL.
I'm not sure about new applicants, though, how are they gonna work around this one.

bebac30 Feb 7th 2010 6:02 pm

Re: state migration plan
 
HUH i got so many questions about this NEW plan...
As first step i have already sent an email to my sponsored state Victoria. As soon as i got reply i will post.

Stevenson Feb 7th 2010 6:19 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
Sorry to all this is bad news for, it really sucks to have your dreams dashed even more. :thumbdown:
As i read this, it is good news for me I am a plumber with Vic SS:thumbup:, does this mean I move to cat 2 or stay at cat 5?

PLASTERERFROMWALES Feb 7th 2010 6:23 pm

Re: state migration plan
 
Thanks for the reply, so I can't get one but could possibly be on it - this is potentially good news fingers crossed.

George Lombard Feb 7th 2010 6:23 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
Good Morning everyone,

Nice set of challenges to wake up to.

The critical points about the changes to General Skilled Migration are:

a) Current applicants who applied on or after 1 September 2007 aren't affected - their points and eligibility are locked in and in most cases their processing priority will remain the same until 30 June 2010 at least.

b) People who applied before 1 September 2007 are subject to "cap and kill" legislation, ie the Department is going to process a certain number (not yet announced as far as I know) and then terminate the rest, in which case all application fees paid to the Department of Immigration will be returned to those applicants (directly or through their agents).

c) Current onshore students will not be able to claim MODL points however they will benefit from a complex suite of measures designed to protect them (and the international student industry). The Department will announce the new skilled occupation list by 30 April 2010 (taking effect on 30 June 2010) and most graduates who have not yet applied for a general skilled migration visa will need to wait until then to determine which pathway they should pursue. The Department does not need to announce transitional measures for students whose visas are expiring on 15 March 2010 since those students are able to lodge a subclass 485 (temporary graduate) visa and then change their nominated occupation for their permanent visa application.

d) People planning to apply for General Skilled Migration as of 8 February should consult a migration agent - those who hold positive skills assessments but have not yet applied for their visas will be able to apply however should their nominated occupation not be on the new Skilled Occupation List then their application will most likely be refused.

e) There is still more information needed to clarify many of these points, in particular I would expect inputs from the Minister's speech later today, and also from the Migration Institute of Australia. In the meantime, the major links are all here: http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...df/faq-sol.pdf .

Cheers,

George Lombard

Duncan_Mc Feb 7th 2010 6:23 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
I have to say that the most unfair, disgraceful, and disgusting thing is CAPPING applications!

Do you think it's only about those pre 01/09/2007? Then you're wrong.
It's just a first step of this dear minister.Then he will definitelly go ahead with other applicants.

I have no words to name this shi..t.

Chipster Feb 7th 2010 6:42 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
I think I am stuffed.
I'm 44 next week and my occupation was on the MODL which meant I achieved 120 points.
I now have 105 and am therefore thinking of going no further wth my application as I will simply be wasting money if I understand the situation correctly because I have not submitted my application.

If my occupation is on the new SOL announced in April will points be awarded for that or do we just not know what curve balls the Australian Government will throw next?

Duncan_Mc Feb 7th 2010 7:14 pm

Re: state migration plan
 

Originally Posted by janice1uk (Post 8320483)
I think States will have two list. The second list will be like csl hopefully Electricians will be on it then we will move back to Cat2. We are heading to SA how about you.:thumbsup:

It's just your guessing.
In fact, I think there is no need for states to copy CSL as it gives enough priority for applicants (CSL + SS = 3 cat.)

Instead, states will make their own lists that are different from CSL to sponsor other workers, not included in CSL. The problem is who will they include in it and how soon we'll know it.

taz2008 Feb 7th 2010 7:34 pm

Re: state migration plan
 
Lets hope we are all on it hey! :fingerscrossed:

rocket01 Feb 7th 2010 7:38 pm

Goverment tightens immigration policy
 
20000 might be refused visas

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...ration-policy/

bebac30 Feb 7th 2010 7:41 pm

Re: state migration plan
 

Originally Posted by taz2008 (Post 8320747)
Lets hope we are all on it hey! :fingerscrossed:

I hope for sure :fingerscrossed:

But the question is when will it be released. As i understand minister hasn`t approved any, so it maybe already done by states and now it is in magic hands of minister :sneaky: ...who knows...

Stevenson Feb 7th 2010 7:42 pm

Re: state migration plan
 

Originally Posted by janice1uk (Post 8320483)
I think States will have two list. The second list will be like csl hopefully Electricians will be on it then we will move back to Cat2. We are heading to SA how about you.:thumbsup:

This is the way I also read it. Plumber with Vic SS, now in cat 2 from cat 5 is this right?:blink: but only if the minister agree's the state list.

lizards Feb 7th 2010 7:44 pm

Re: Goverment tightens immigration policy
 
'mining professionals 'Intresting..

Any idea how easy it is to come by these jobs? Anyone doing/done one ?

What exactly is involved in the sponsorship thing?

wargod Feb 7th 2010 7:44 pm

Re: Goverment tightens immigration policy
 

Originally Posted by rocket01 (Post 8320760)

On Nova 106.9 here in Brisbane - they mentioned cooks and hairdressers being removed....

rocket01 Feb 7th 2010 7:45 pm

Re: Goverment tightens immigration policy
 

Originally Posted by lizards (Post 8320784)
'mining professionals 'Intresting..

Any idea how easy it is to come by these jobs? Anyone doing/done one ?

What exactly is involved in the sponsorship thing?

More detailed info here http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=653562

Centurion Feb 7th 2010 7:53 pm

Re: Goverment tightens immigration policy
 

Originally Posted by wargod (Post 8320786)
On Nova 106.9 here in Brisbane - they mentioned chefs and hairdressers being removed....

There is no word until 30 April as to what the new list will be. I believe the minister commented on the disparity between someone being able to get PR after a 92 week hairdressing or chef course and someone not being able to after getting degree level qualifications. They were used as examples and no doubt pounced on by the media but those professions may or may not appear in the new list.

Until then, really everything is speculation. But it does appear that the focus of the new system is not to give visas to everyone but for Australia to really address its specific migration needs, especially on a individual state level. Which, in theory doesn't sound like a bad idea.

Bermudashorts Feb 7th 2010 7:54 pm

Re: Goverment tightens immigration policy
 

Originally Posted by wargod (Post 8320786)
On Nova 106.9 here in Brisbane - they mentioned chefs and hairdressers being removed....

Not true. At this point no particular occupations have been removed, but there will be a new list issued in the coming months.

cartertucker Feb 7th 2010 8:06 pm

Re: state migration plan
 

Originally Posted by taz2008 (Post 8320747)
Lets hope we are all on it hey! :fingerscrossed:

Lets hope we are on it....:fingerscrossed:

And lets also hope that it doesnt take ages to be announced....Its gonna be an anxious time, again.....:unsure:

Duncan_Mc Feb 7th 2010 8:15 pm

Re: state migration plan
 

Originally Posted by taz2008 (Post 8320747)
Lets hope we are all on it hey! :fingerscrossed:

Of course, "let the hope be with us". ;)

Pollyana Feb 7th 2010 8:19 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
More threads merged ;)

Bermudashorts Feb 7th 2010 8:20 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8320879)
More threads merged ;)

I hope you are getting overtime payments.

Pollyana Feb 7th 2010 8:37 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8320884)
I hope you are getting overtime payments.

:lol: I wish!!! "Merge one, get one free" perhaps?:thumbup:

Pollyana Feb 7th 2010 8:37 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 
Guys, a lot of people are asking George for very specific help in their individual cases. Please bear in mind if you are doing this that he does have a business to run and a living to earn, and it wouldn't take a genius to work out that he is going to have a lot of paying clients looking for answers too.

If you want a reply to a very specific situation, please be patient, and don't address the question specifically to George or any other agent - other posters may be able to answer you, including other agents. And remember that it may well be in your own best interests right now to consult a registered migration agent yourselves, rather than relying on the free - and of necessity fairly general - information on here.

Thanks

louie Feb 7th 2010 8:57 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by George Lombard (Post 8320568)
b) People who applied before 1 September 2007 are subject to "cap and kill" legislation, ie the Department is going to process a certain number (not yet announced as far as I know) and then terminate the rest, in which case all application fees paid to the Department of Immigration will be returned to those applicants (directly or through their agents).

Australia - supposedly the land of the fair go - should be ashamed of itself. Not content with playing with people's lives for two years already, now it is going to dash the dreams of people who applied in good faith and whose only "crime" is that DIAC (or some other third party) have been slow in processing their applications thus far.

raven Feb 7th 2010 9:09 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8320181)
Numerous threads merged - please keep all your comments in here and don't start new threads!!!

A quick question for you Pollyana. It has just been announced that teachers will go on the new priority list. My brother in law is a fully qaulified primary school teacher and is on a family sponsored visa as he is 43 years old. His application has been in 12 months now and they where thinking it would be another 12 months at least before hearing anything. Now that teachers will go on a priority list will this mean his application will automatically go to the top of the list?
I would be grateful for any info you could finf out for me

Regards Raven ps it was on the 9 news this morning

Bermudashorts Feb 7th 2010 9:25 pm

Re: Minister's announcement on GSM visas – 8 February 2010
 

Originally Posted by raven (Post 8321032)
A quick question for you Pollyana. It has just been announced that teachers will go on the new priority list. My brother in law is a fully qaulified primary school teacher and is on a family sponsored visa as he is 43 years old. His application has been in 12 months now and they where thinking it would be another 12 months at least before hearing anything. Now that teachers will go on a priority list will this mean his application will automatically go to the top of the list?
I would be grateful for any info you could finf out for me

Regards Raven ps it was on the 9 news this morning

I think this is misinformation. A new priority list of occupations has not been announced today. Primary teachers have not been added to a list of some description.

There will be some new lists released in the coming months, but as far as I can tell, nothing announced today would effect a primary school teacher who has already lodged their application.

Why are you addressing your question to one person on the forum btw?


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