gte assesment for student visa
Mar 18th 2012, 4:13 am
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Re: gte assesment for student visa
Mar 18th 2012, 5:53 am
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Re: gte assesment for student visa
The course providers were advertising jobs as specifically being a route to pr. And I am talking tafes as well as private institutions. Immigration knew this was happening for a long time, and as I said, they even sent out an official to my tafe to talk us through how to get pr.
I remember watching an interview with a lady from SA immigration before I came over saying how much they wanted students to come over, and to stay at the end of their course. They said they wanted young student age people who would come to SA and have Australian babies lol. I do remember thinking that part was funny.
Anyway, my point is, there was a 'your course is not a guarantee of pr etc' bit added on, but students were still encouraged with the lure of pr. Immigration could have clamped down on it YEARS before if they didn't want that. But the opposite was true, until Julia gillard came along, immigration were encouraging people to apply for pr. It was not some underhand way of getting in the country, it was advertised as a way to pr! That is why the numbers of people were so high.
I remember watching an interview with a lady from SA immigration before I came over saying how much they wanted students to come over, and to stay at the end of their course. They said they wanted young student age people who would come to SA and have Australian babies lol. I do remember thinking that part was funny.
Anyway, my point is, there was a 'your course is not a guarantee of pr etc' bit added on, but students were still encouraged with the lure of pr. Immigration could have clamped down on it YEARS before if they didn't want that. But the opposite was true, until Julia gillard came along, immigration were encouraging people to apply for pr. It was not some underhand way of getting in the country, it was advertised as a way to pr! That is why the numbers of people were so high.
Yes the system was open to abuse, and abused, but surely that was the fault of the system, and yes it's right that the loopholes have now been closed.
I think education was about the 3rd largest source of income for Oz previously, and there are now big concerns that the income from International students has dropped so low because of the changes.
Mar 18th 2012, 8:56 am
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Re: gte assesment for student visa
The course providers were advertising jobs as specifically being a route to pr. And I am talking tafes as well as private institutions. Immigration knew this was happening for a long time, and as I said, they even sent out an official to my tafe to talk us through how to get pr.
I remember watching an interview with a lady from SA immigration before I came over saying how much they wanted students to come over, and to stay at the end of their course. They said they wanted young student age people who would come to SA and have Australian babies lol. I do remember thinking that part was funny.
Anyway, my point is, there was a 'your course is not a guarantee of pr etc' bit added on, but students were still encouraged with the lure of pr. Immigration could have clamped down on it YEARS before if they didn't want that. But the opposite was true, until Julia gillard came along, immigration were encouraging people to apply for pr. It was not some underhand way of getting in the country, it was advertised as a way to pr! That is why the numbers of people were so high.
I remember watching an interview with a lady from SA immigration before I came over saying how much they wanted students to come over, and to stay at the end of their course. They said they wanted young student age people who would come to SA and have Australian babies lol. I do remember thinking that part was funny.
Anyway, my point is, there was a 'your course is not a guarantee of pr etc' bit added on, but students were still encouraged with the lure of pr. Immigration could have clamped down on it YEARS before if they didn't want that. But the opposite was true, until Julia gillard came along, immigration were encouraging people to apply for pr. It was not some underhand way of getting in the country, it was advertised as a way to pr! That is why the numbers of people were so high.
I know this has been discussed before, but student to PR was actively being encouraged at least back in 2006 when my family member came as a student. As PB says, no questions were asked at that time, and when because of a major stuff up by an immigration agent, the only way he could stay in Oz was by re-newing his student visa and continuing to study here, again absolutely no questions were asked. So it's just possible that this is the first time the poster, (who possibly has been here since 2008) has been asked any questions, and although they appear straight forward, was really only asking help to ensure the correct answers.
Yes the system was open to abuse, and abused, but surely that was the fault of the system, and yes it's right that the loopholes have now been closed.
I think education was about the 3rd largest source of income for Oz previously, and there are now big concerns that the income from International students has dropped so low because of the changes.
Yes the system was open to abuse, and abused, but surely that was the fault of the system, and yes it's right that the loopholes have now been closed.
I think education was about the 3rd largest source of income for Oz previously, and there are now big concerns that the income from International students has dropped so low because of the changes.
Mar 18th 2012, 9:02 am
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Re: gte assesment for student visa
I dont know about you, but when the eligibility of applying for PR visa includes Recent Employment OR Australian study, I take it as knowing, accepting AND encouraging students to apply for PR after Visa... thus encouraging them to apply for studies in the first place. I dont know how they deny it when it is so clear
Mar 18th 2012, 9:10 am
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Re: gte assesment for student visa
I dont know about you, but when the eligibility of applying for PR visa includes Recent Employment OR Australian study, I take it as knowing, accepting AND encouraging students to apply for PR after Visa... thus encouraging them to apply for studies in the first place. I dont know how they deny it when it is so clear
Plus, you only get five points for Australian study now. Whereas you can get up to fifteen points for work experience. Hardly a huge encouragement for students to stay, is it?
Mar 18th 2012, 11:03 am
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Re: gte assesment for student visa
It USED to be. Previously you could study a trade, do 900 hours of work experience and immigration would wave the restrictions that other people had. This was because us students bought in lots of money AND jobs for Australians. If that wasn't immigration encouraging student visa to pr I have no idea what would be.
Mar 18th 2012, 11:21 am
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Re: gte assesment for student visa
It USED to be. Previously you could study a trade, do 900 hours of work experience and immigration would wave the restrictions that other people had. This was because us students bought in lots of money AND jobs for Australians. If that wasn't immigration encouraging student visa to pr I have no idea what would be.
