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rtkwar Dec 25th 2012 11:43 pm

We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
We are a family want to migrate to New Zealand
(my mum - Some brothers and sisters younger than 18 years and others greater than 21)
We have 120 thousand U.S. dollars
We Want advice?
Can we invest in New Zealand and get set up and then citizenship?

Sherlock Holmes Dec 25th 2012 11:47 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450375)
We are a family want to migrate to New Zealand
(my mum - Some brothers and sisters younger than 18 years and others greater than 21)
We have 120 thousand U.S. dollars
We Want advice?
Can we invest in New Zealand and get set up and then citizenship?

Hello and welcome to the forum. :)

I can't answer your question but just wanted to say hello.

In the meantime, you could have a look here: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/

MrsFychan Dec 26th 2012 12:38 am

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
Welcome to BE, having had a quick look at the Immigration site I'm afraid I don't think 120,000.00 USD = 145,811.21 NZD, will get you in as investors.

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migra...nt/default.htm

Have a look round the Immigration site to see what other visa's you could apply for but I doubt any would enable the whole family to move on one application, could be wrong and someone might be around soon to advise better.

BEVS Dec 26th 2012 12:39 am

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450375)
We are a family want to migrate to New Zealand
(my mum - Some brothers and sisters younger than 18 years and others greater than 21)
We have 120 thousand U.S. dollars
We Want advice?
Can we invest in New Zealand and get set up and then citizenship?

NNoooo. One needs to gain NZ residency first. Then one can apply to become an NZ citizen after 5 years have passed.

If any of your siblings are independent , then they would have to apply under their own steam.

If your Mum has a skill set that New Zealand wants then should could apply and bring in her dependant children on the back of that application but who is go8ing to look after who if Mum is out working full-time?

I'm afraid that $120 US doesn't come anywhere close to apply under an investor category. You would need over $2 million USD for that.

Still, do come back with any thoughts or questions. Happy to try and explore any possible avenues with you.

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 12:19 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Thanks for the replies
I think that my heart will stop
We want immigration together
What about the study and then work?
Is 120 thousand U.S. dollars is enough?
What about opening a restaurant or a supermarket
Is there a NZ immigration lawyer here can advise us?
I need any hope

Sherlock Holmes Dec 26th 2012 12:25 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450815)

Thanks for the replies
I think that my heart will stop
We want immigration together
What about the study and then work?
Is 120 thousand U.S. dollars is enough?
What about opening a restaurant or a supermarket
Is there a NZ immigration lawyer here can advise us?
I need any hope

Your older children will have to get their own visas.

120,000 is NOT enough.

B.E. members are mainly British people who have left the U.K. and moved abroad and mostly, their knowledge is based on experience. We are not experts or lawyers here.

read this, carefully. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/advice/

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 12:25 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
We are a family and we want together to Canada immigration

We want to study something inexpensive and work in Canada and get a permanent residency
We have 120 thousand U.S. dollars

Sherlock Holmes Dec 26th 2012 12:29 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450822)
We are a family and we want together to Canada immigration

We want to study something inexpensive and work in Canada and get a permanent residency
We have 120 thousand U.S. dollars

I realise that you deleted the above post as you probably put it in the wrong place. However, I want the thread to remain to indicate what you are doing on B.E.

Thank you.

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 12:29 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

thats details
(My Mum)
(me 22 years old)
(my brother 15 years old)
(sister 23 years old)
(sister 16 years old)

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 12:30 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

I'm trying to find hope in Canada or New Zealand, whichever is easier

Sherlock Holmes Dec 26th 2012 12:34 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450826)

thats details
(My Mum)
(me 22 years old)
(my brother 15 years old)
(sister 23 years old)
(sister 16 years old)

You have been given the correct advice already. :)


Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450827)

I'm trying to find hope in Canada or New Zealand, whichever is easier

They are both going to be very difficult. I'm sorry to tell you this but it is how things are.

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 12:34 pm

I spoke with a lawyer
He told me that I can study IT in New Zealand and then I can find a job and get a permanent residency


may be nz immigration lawyer able to find a suitable solution

Sherlock Holmes Dec 26th 2012 12:38 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450829)
I spoke with a lawyer
He told me that I can study IT in New Zealand and then I can find a job and get a permanent residency

was the lawyer on this list?

http://www.iaa.govt.nz/

Be very careful of taking advice (and paying for it) from an unauthorised lawyer.

In New Zealand they are called immigration advisors.

But if you have spoken to one and he says you can do it, then he should be telling you HOW to do it.

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 12:42 pm


yes he is immigration advisor


Australia also difficult?

Anyway
If any immigration lawyer here can give advice to us
Or if here who knows a lawyer to ask him about our case
I will be grateful to him

Sherlock Holmes Dec 26th 2012 12:51 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450841)
Australia also difficult?

www.immi.gov.au

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 1:02 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

thank you Sherlock Holmes for your help
but no one forget me
I will try to find hope


Sherlock Holmes Dec 26th 2012 1:17 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450852)

thank you Sherlock Holmes for your help
but no one forget me
I will try to find hope


Thank you for saying thank you.

I wish you luck but I'm not very hopeful.

rtkwar Dec 26th 2012 1:20 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Film (lost hope) soon

MrsFychan Dec 26th 2012 7:21 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450815)
Thanks for the replies
What about opening a restaurant or a supermarket

that would be under the investors visa and you don't have enough money as already pointed out


Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450815)
Is there a NZ immigration lawyer here can advise us?
I need any hope

We are not legally allowed to give out immigration advise that you would expect to get from a lawyer you have to go to an accredited one but in your case I cannot see there is anything they are going to be able to do for you and it will cost you a lot of money to be told that.

sorry but only option would be to contact your local NZ Immigration Office and talk with them, least that would be free and you should be getting fairly up to date advise, but as already stated you would not be able to submit one application for the whole family, the older children would have to apply on their own merit.

BEVS Dec 26th 2012 8:44 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

I spoke with a lawyer
He told me that I can study IT in New Zealand and then I can find a job and get a permanent residency

Yes. That is correct but it isn't sensible.
Here in New Zealand you would have to pay very expensive international student fees.
You would be here on your own & you would have to hope for a job at the end of the study and that you would gain NZ residency.
Even then it would be years before your Mother could join you, if at all . She would need to show independent income and settlement type funds.
Your sisters and brothers would not be able to join you unless they could make their own application.

You would be better to study in your current coutry of residence

BEVS Dec 26th 2012 8:52 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450815)


What about opening a restaurant or a supermarket



That would be a Long Term Business visa. You need to have run such a business before and to have sizeable funds to invest, which you have not. You would need a business plan . To show a profit within 2 years and to also prove how this helps New Zealand i.e. by employing New Zealanders.
You couldn't bring in your siblings and Mother with this visa.



Is there a NZ immigration lawyer here can advise us?
I need any hope
No. We are just a group of people who share our experiences and can point to info on the NZIS website. That is all.

My suggestion for you is that you study something useful in your current country of residence. That may then help you to emigrate to another country.

christmasoompa Dec 26th 2012 9:11 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10450822)
We are a family and we want together to Canada immigration

We want to study something inexpensive and work in Canada and get a permanent residency
We have 120 thousand U.S. dollars

For Canada, you need at least $1.6 million for an investor visa, so I'm afraid you don't have enough money. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...tors/index.asp

But if your mum can figure out another way to get a visa, then your 15 and 16 yr old siblings can go with her, but the cut off age is 22, so you and your brother wouldn't be able to accompany her.

HTH, good luck.

rtkwar Dec 27th 2012 11:21 am

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
Ok, whats i must study if i want immigrate to nenzland

simonsi Dec 27th 2012 4:23 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
If you want to use the skilled migrant route you will likely need qualifications AND some work experience. You really need to look at the points calculator and long and immedate skills shortage lst, you should not be undertaking education on a subject suggested to you on this forum, there are no magic answeres such as "study this and NZ will want you".

BEVS Dec 27th 2012 7:28 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10451757)
Ok, whats i must study if i want immigrate to nenzland

As Simonsi points out, there is no way to know that.
What skills NZ might want one year , may change the next year.

rtkwar Dec 29th 2012 4:23 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

no any way for that?
like study or something
(i need dirty and smart lawyer for find way)

christmasoompa Dec 29th 2012 4:37 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10454408)

no any way for that?
like study or something
(i need dirty and smart lawyer for find way)

The simple answer is that for most Western countries, you'll need at least a degree and several years experience in an occupation that is needed to get a visa. Without education and skills, you're just not needed I'm afraid.

So look at it as a long term plan, and steer away from 'dirty' lawyers unless you want to move and then be kicked out of the country.

Good luck.

rtkwar Dec 29th 2012 4:43 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
What is the benefit of an immigration lawyer?
I heard that the study in Canada is cheaper than America, Australia and New Zealand
Why we can not study and work in Canada and obtain permanent residency then immigration?

rtkwar Dec 29th 2012 4:46 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
any one know about canada

rtkwar Dec 29th 2012 4:47 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 
or newz land or austraila or whatever

rtkwar Dec 29th 2012 4:47 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

any way i think moderate can close this topic now no hope here

christmasoompa Dec 29th 2012 4:48 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10454437)
I heard that the study in Canada is cheaper than America, Australia and New Zealand

I've no idea about Oz and NZ, but yes, it's much cheaper than the US. You'll need to show $10,000 a year for your living expenses, plus the tuition fees (usually around $10-20,000 a year).

So yes, you could go over to Canada on a study permit and study a degree for maybe $50,000. But that's only one of you, and I thought you all wanted to move together? Your mother could do it, and take your two younger siblings with her on the study permit, but you and your elder sister wouldn't be able to accompany her.


Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10454437)
Why we can not study and work in Canada and obtain permanent residency then immigration?

Because there's no way to get Permanent Residency directly from a study permit. A study permit is only temporary, and you'd have to prove as part of the application that you will definitely return to Egypt, it's not a visa route to stay permanently I'm afraid.

HTH, pop over to the Canada immigration forum for more info on Canada, and do start with the Wiki which has loads of useful info re: visas.

mikelincs Dec 29th 2012 4:49 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10454443)
any one know about canada

You have been given a lot of very good advice on both this and the Australian forum, you will NOT have the skills and experience for Canada either, all these countries have similar requirements.

rtkwar Dec 29th 2012 4:54 pm

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

ok i finished you can close topic now

BEVS Dec 30th 2012 1:04 am

Re: We Family want to migrate to New Zealand
 

Originally Posted by rtkwar (Post 10454458)

ok i finished you can close topic now

.......and a big thank you to everyone that tried to help .

rtkwar Jan 10th 2013 11:00 am

Questions about points of skilled workers
 
I want to know if experience important for migration
Because my sister graduated from the Faculty of Commerce
And has no experience
she can apply for immigration?
I think that the profession of accountants are required there

MrsFychan Jan 10th 2013 6:10 pm

Re: Questions about points of skilled workers
 
get her to check on the Immigration site and fill in the EOI points indicator to see how many points she gets

rtkwar Jan 10th 2013 6:26 pm

Re: Questions about points of skilled workers
 

she get 90 point for (age and work outside auckland and bachelor degree)
idon't know if she can point from
working in a skilled job in New Zealand for more than 12 months.
(but she haven't job offer)

MrsFychan Jan 10th 2013 6:33 pm

Re: Questions about points of skilled workers
 
minimum points is 100 so at this stage no point. she would need to get a job offer but that doesn't always lead to a positive visa application, If she gets more than 140 points then she is automatically selected from the pool but again that doesn't lead to a positive visa application

rtkwar Feb 11th 2013 11:17 pm

Questions regarding workers migration?
 

Hi;
I have a question
I graduated from the Faculty of Law and Hold Bachelor of Law
I started working carpenter month ago (I still train in the workshop)
Can I Immigration After getting experience?
Does the carpentry profession will be required in the future?


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