Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
Dec 31st 2011, 12:54 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
This is all OTT. We have taken advice and provided written references from those who know us as well as from both sets of parents attesting to relationship. We have recently acquired a marriage licence and set a date for next year in any case so can quash this at a stroke. Having your name on any number of bits of paper is not "proof" of anything. Also reality in our case is that either of us could have gained the points to be lead applicant for FSW. You actually do have to provide proof of funds, education, references, polic checks for all spousal applciants so sdont know where that came from...
Dec 31st 2011, 5:17 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
This is all OTT. We have taken advice and provided written references from those who know us as well as from both sets of parents attesting to relationship. We have recently acquired a marriage licence and set a date for next year in any case so can quash this at a stroke. Having your name on any number of bits of paper is not "proof" of anything. Also reality in our case is that either of us could have gained the points to be lead applicant for FSW. You actually do have to provide proof of funds, education, references, polic checks for all spousal applciants so sdont know where that came from...
CIC do not care if you could gain PR via a FSW visa, they just need to have proof of your relationship for your current application. As to having a marriage licence, this is meaningless. Even if you were married you would be required to show proof of a genuine relationship, you just wouldn't need the affidavits necessarily.
As to your comment regarding spousal applicants requiring proof of funds etc., I am sorry but I believe you are incorrect. Whilst everyone who applies to immigrate to Canada requires Police and background checks and a medical, you do not need proof of education or funds for spousal applications. Perhaps you are misinterpreting the instructions or confusing them with another application.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/informa...s/3999Etoc.asp
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Jan 2nd 2012, 3:01 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
I will not be a visitor, I will be here on a working holiday till July 29th 2012, then it expires. Im sending off my spousal app within 2 weeks so hopefully it will all be done before then.. But what happens if it gets to July 29th and my passport is on its way to london/on its way back? Is there a extension I can apply for that would allow me to work, or be on implied status as a PR app would be in process/near completion?
I cant change to visitor status as I need to work to survive, also, I wouldnt be able to leave the country as I wouldnt have a passport?
Jan 2nd 2012, 5:32 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
It doesn't say specifically that they have to be notarised, but generally that's what they mean by "statutory declaration", hence we provided 11, 3 of which are notarised.
This is what the form says from CIC's website:
I went with the default thought of "statutory declarations" must be notarised. If you're the UK you can get any solicitor to sign and stamp it for £5 each, but it has to be taken and paid by the person who wrote it (the solicitor has to witness the signature).
We also provided a mix of declarations - my parents, Fiance's parents, my brother, Fiance's brother, 1 Canadian friend of mine, 2 of my UK friends, 2 of his UK friends, my aunt in canada, Fiance's cousin in the US. We figured a mix of people showed that more than just our family knows about our relationship. We wrote out a template with bullets:
(If that helps at all!)
This is what the form says from CIC's website:
I went with the default thought of "statutory declarations" must be notarised. If you're the UK you can get any solicitor to sign and stamp it for £5 each, but it has to be taken and paid by the person who wrote it (the solicitor has to witness the signature).
We also provided a mix of declarations - my parents, Fiance's parents, my brother, Fiance's brother, 1 Canadian friend of mine, 2 of my UK friends, 2 of his UK friends, my aunt in canada, Fiance's cousin in the US. We figured a mix of people showed that more than just our family knows about our relationship. We wrote out a template with bullets:
(If that helps at all!)
For the once im not having notarized should i take out the last section below the person whos writing its signature?
Jan 2nd 2012, 9:18 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
Sorry I just re-read what you put as I saw 'visitor status' oops!
I will not be a visitor, I will be here on a working holiday till July 29th 2012, then it expires. Im sending off my spousal app within 2 weeks so hopefully it will all be done before then.. But what happens if it gets to July 29th and my passport is on its way to london/on its way back? Is there a extension I can apply for that would allow me to work, or be on implied status as a PR app would be in process/near completion?
I cant change to visitor status as I need to work to survive, also, I wouldnt be able to leave the country as I wouldnt have a passport?
I will not be a visitor, I will be here on a working holiday till July 29th 2012, then it expires. Im sending off my spousal app within 2 weeks so hopefully it will all be done before then.. But what happens if it gets to July 29th and my passport is on its way to london/on its way back? Is there a extension I can apply for that would allow me to work, or be on implied status as a PR app would be in process/near completion?
I cant change to visitor status as I need to work to survive, also, I wouldnt be able to leave the country as I wouldnt have a passport?
Additionally, you would only be on implied visitor status, you would not be able to work.
If you take photocopies of your passport prior to sending it off, if you wish to change to 'visitor' and extend you would only need to send a copy of your passport together with the application to extend. Whilst your application to extend is in place you would be on implied status and would not have to leave until a response is received by CIC. It is unlikely that they would refuse an extention if your PR application is in process.
If you need to work to survive then you have few choices - either apply for a 2nd WHV or return to the UK to work after your WHV has expired and wait there for your PR visa to be finalised or alternatively find a company willing to get an LMO for you and get a temporary work permit.
Jan 2nd 2012, 9:22 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
This is all OTT. We have taken advice and provided written references from those who know us as well as from both sets of parents attesting to relationship. We have recently acquired a marriage licence and set a date for next year in any case so can quash this at a stroke. Having your name on any number of bits of paper is not "proof" of anything. Also reality in our case is that either of us could have gained the points to be lead applicant for FSW. You actually do have to provide proof of funds, education, references, polic checks for all spousal applciants so sdont know where that came from...
Jan 2nd 2012, 10:27 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
@christmasoompa. Yes I see you are right. When wrapped up in your own visa process its hard to think other people have other routes/processes! Of course spousal sponsorship will require coordinated paperwork tying the 2 people together. Apologies.
Jan 3rd 2012, 3:45 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
sorry just to clarify you got rid of this bit right
DECLARED BEFORE ME AT
[location]
in the borough of [borough]
THIS [25th] DAY OF [month],
2011
[signature]
[full name]
[title – proof of solicitor]
[full address including country and postal/zip code]
[contact phone number(s) including country codes]
DECLARED BEFORE ME AT
[location]
in the borough of [borough]
THIS [25th] DAY OF [month],
2011
[signature]
[full name]
[title – proof of solicitor]
[full address including country and postal/zip code]
[contact phone number(s) including country codes]
Jan 4th 2012, 2:49 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
You cannot "extend" a working holiday visa. You can apply for a new one and activate it when your current one expires but they are not extendable.
Additionally, you would only be on implied visitor status, you would not be able to work.
If you take photocopies of your passport prior to sending it off, if you wish to change to 'visitor' and extend you would only need to send a copy of your passport together with the application to extend. Whilst your application to extend is in place you would be on implied status and would not have to leave until a response is received by CIC. It is unlikely that they would refuse an extention if your PR application is in process.
If you need to work to survive then you have few choices - either apply for a 2nd WHV or return to the UK to work after your WHV has expired and wait there for your PR visa to be finalised or alternatively find a company willing to get an LMO for you and get a temporary work permit.
Additionally, you would only be on implied visitor status, you would not be able to work.
If you take photocopies of your passport prior to sending it off, if you wish to change to 'visitor' and extend you would only need to send a copy of your passport together with the application to extend. Whilst your application to extend is in place you would be on implied status and would not have to leave until a response is received by CIC. It is unlikely that they would refuse an extention if your PR application is in process.
If you need to work to survive then you have few choices - either apply for a 2nd WHV or return to the UK to work after your WHV has expired and wait there for your PR visa to be finalised or alternatively find a company willing to get an LMO for you and get a temporary work permit.
Jan 4th 2012, 5:12 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
sorry just to clarify you got rid of this bit right
DECLARED BEFORE ME AT
[location]
in the borough of [borough]
THIS [25th] DAY OF [month],
2011
[signature]
[full name]
[title – proof of solicitor]
[full address including country and postal/zip code]
[contact phone number(s) including country codes]
DECLARED BEFORE ME AT
[location]
in the borough of [borough]
THIS [25th] DAY OF [month],
2011
[signature]
[full name]
[title – proof of solicitor]
[full address including country and postal/zip code]
[contact phone number(s) including country codes]
Yep that's the bit that we removed for the ones that weren't notarized.
Jan 16th 2012, 4:06 am
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
I have a friend trying to get one notarized back in england she has called a few law offices and none seem to do it. Is there a certain lawayer i should be looking for or is there someone else who can do a notarized one????
Didnt have to much of a issues finding one out here to do it.
Again thanks for your help u have been amazing
Jan 16th 2012, 4:41 am
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
Thanks Schookololy
I have a friend trying to get one notarized back in england she has called a few law offices and none seem to do it. Is there a certain lawayer i should be looking for or is there someone else who can do a notarized one????
Didnt have to much of a issues finding one out here to do it.
Again thanks for your help u have been amazing
I have a friend trying to get one notarized back in england she has called a few law offices and none seem to do it. Is there a certain lawayer i should be looking for or is there someone else who can do a notarized one????
Didnt have to much of a issues finding one out here to do it.
Again thanks for your help u have been amazing
Jan 16th 2012, 8:49 am
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
Thanks Schookololy
I have a friend trying to get one notarized back in england she has called a few law offices and none seem to do it. Is there a certain lawayer i should be looking for or is there someone else who can do a notarized one????
Didnt have to much of a issues finding one out here to do it.
Again thanks for your help u have been amazing
I have a friend trying to get one notarized back in england she has called a few law offices and none seem to do it. Is there a certain lawayer i should be looking for or is there someone else who can do a notarized one????
Didnt have to much of a issues finding one out here to do it.
Again thanks for your help u have been amazing
Jan 16th 2012, 3:10 pm
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Re: Would you regard this as enough Common-law proof?
Cheers guys really appreciate it