magnumpi

Ha ha really, that's a wait ? It's not an if it's a when, as long as mum was born Canada then you are Canadian, think of it as 9 months to pack and sort out stuff and arrange a good by party.

Did You see my link for the forms ?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/proof-how.asp

Basically it's there on a silver plate for you, anyone on here would swop places w you in a heartbeat

pathfinder_05

Yes, saw the link.

Thanks very much for the input. I was ready to hit rock bottom again but now I have something to look forward to.

magnumpi

For sure you do, you have the golden egg of immigration other than being a refugee Enjoy !!

Snowy560

Sorry Magnumpi: I just scanned the thread quickly and didn't read each post carefully: I agree with you if mum was born in Canada, extremely likely (never like to say 100% just in case) Pathfinder is a Canadian Citizen.

If you think 8-9 months is a long time, rest assured it's far quicker than most Canadian immigration programs and really if you are a Citizen already, you've drawn the jackpot!! And all for CA$75!

Good luck!


PS: I just saw what Magnumpi wrote: I swear I didn't copy! We are on the same page!

pathfinder_05

Thanks for the help anyway Snowy.

pathfinder_05

Hey man. After talking to my mum it appears that she was born in the UK then went to Canada with her folks as a child, but she has citizenship.

I think this now changes everything. I found this in the documentation....

Snowy560

If your mother is a naturalized Canadian citizen (i.e. she was born outside Canada but emigrated there, then she received a grant of citizenship and became a Canadian Citizen) and she was a Canadian Citizen when you were born it is as if you are "first generation born outside Canada" and therefore a Canadian Citizen.

Anyway the "first gen only" did not come into effect until 17 April 2009 (but I do not think this applies to you: the Q is: was your mother naturalized as a Canadian citizen before you were born?).

You should apply for proof of citizenship. It's the only way to know.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen...ules/index.asp

You likely are a Canadian citizen if you…

were born in Canada
became a citizen because of changes to the Citizenship Act
applied for and received your Canadian citizenship (became a naturalized citizen)
received Canadian citizenship as a minor when a parent or legal guardian naturalized you by applying for your citizenship
were born outside Canada and at least one of your parents was:
born in Canada
naturalized in Canada before your birth

and:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcen...qnum=365&top=5

scilly

surely it all depends on whether the OP's mother actually did become a citizen of Canada ........ there've been too many cases recently of women who came over as War Brides, with their children born in England but who turn out not to have citizenship.

Just living here, even if for 40 or 50 years, didn't automatically confer citizenship even back then ............... we had to apply for citizenship almost 45 years ago, and swear allegiance to the Queen.

Snowy560

Yes as I said in post #22 (and reproduced from the link) if the OP's mum is a naturalized Canadian citizen and was naturalized before the OP's birth then he is very likely a Canadian Citizen and should apply for proof.

magnumpi

Yes a little more complicated I guess, but only in the sense that you need your mums Canadian citizenship card or proof that she was a citizen prior to your birth.

However, this is the issue we have with my older son who lives in the U.K., my wife's citizenship shows she was a Canadian since birth on her Canadian Citizenship cirt but my boy can't get citizenship because he is second generation

The post above explains it clearer, if she really was Canadian before your birth, and you have proof dating back to before the changes in 2009 and before your birth, just get the proof and you are back on track

pathfinder_05

Thanks again for chipping in again guys.

My Mother does for sure have a Citizenship Certificate and she was a citizen a long time before I was born.

It was the change in 2009 that confused me. I don't understand the generations they mention.

How do I find out for sure before waiting 9 months to find out? I can't find any contact details.

Snowy560

The only way to find out for sure is to apply for proof. Every situation is different.

My understanding is that Magnumpi's mum is a citizen by descent. Because your mum was naturalized in Canada before you were born that's what I think you'll be too. Your mum didn't inherit Citizenship through her own parents: she was granted it by the Canadian government.

The 2009 thing doesn't affect you.

magnumpi

Considering your other options are let's say, a little less optimistic I would start the process ASAP as 9 months will fly by for sure

Snowy560

+1
And you're not eligible to be processed as an immigrant if you're a Canadian Citizen so that will have to be resolved first. The only way to resolve it is to apply for proof.

pathfinder_05

Ok, I hear you both.

Time to get cracking then.

Thanks very much

Then I will have to head over to the other forum to chat about places to live. But that raises another issue. How do you plan for a new life in Canada but you don't know if you'll get in? Having said that, I am determined to get in, so some planning will be essential.