Lb

I am a United States Citizen... I came to Canada to visit some
friends... They have been married for 11 years... While visiting I
became pregnant by the husband of my friend... SHe does not know this
yet... But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What happens to
my child if he/she is born in Canada? What happens to my child if
he/she is born in the United States? At this time, can I be deported?
What about after the child is born?

The Wizzard

If the father is a Canadian Citizen then the baby is Canadian wherever the
baby is born. If the baby is born in Canada it is a Canadian Citizen no
matter who the parents are.

The fact yoru child i s a Canadian Citizen however has no impact on yoru
status. You are still a visitor if that is how you entered Canada.

You cannot be deported for having a baby, that would be bizzare. You can be
deported if you over stay your status and remain in Canada without any
status. The child of course will always have the right to be in Canada,
being a citizen, you however will not.

Once the baby is over 19 they could sponsor you, but thats rather a long
wait.

If you forma relationship with the father then there is also family class
sponsorship possibilities there.

Otherwise you will have to move back to the US before yoru visa expires and
presumably take yoru child with you and carry on as if you had your child in
the US. When they grow up they may choose to go back to Canada or not, or
sponsor you to go with them etc.

The baby will be a US citizen by birth as well by the way, as you are a US
citizen, whether you have the baby in the US or not, and the baby can hold
both US and Canadian citizenship at the same time as well.


"LB" wrote in message
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    > I am a United States Citizen... I came to Canada to visit some
    > friends... They have been married for 11 years... While visiting I
    > became pregnant by the husband of my friend... SHe does not know this
    > yet... But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What happens to
    > my child if he/she is born in Canada? What happens to my child if
    > he/she is born in the United States? At this time, can I be deported?
    > What about after the child is born?

Atul Patel

have you heard of something called "birth control" ?
you obviously don't worry about having a bastard child.

congratulations!
"LB" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I am a United States Citizen... I came to Canada to visit some
    > friends... They have been married for 11 years... While visiting I
    > became pregnant by the husband of my friend... SHe does not know this
    > yet... But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What happens to
    > my child if he/she is born in Canada? What happens to my child if
    > he/she is born in the United States? At this time, can I be deported?
    > What about after the child is born?

S B

LB wrote:
    >
    > I am a United States Citizen... I came to Canada to visit some
    > friends... They have been married for 11 years... While visiting I
    > became pregnant by the husband of my friend... SHe does not know this
    > yet... But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What happens to
    > my child if he/she is born in Canada? What happens to my child if
    > he/she is born in the United States? At this time, can I be deported?
    > What about after the child is born?

If he is declared the father on the child's birth certificate, then the
child will have both Canadian and US citizenship wherever the child is
born. The birth of a child does not give you special rights for
residence.

Haha

Stick to the point in original poster's question. Your answer portrays a
person with an attitude "holier than thou".

Atul Patel wrote:

    > have you heard of something called "birth control" ?
    > you obviously don't worry about having a bastard child.
    > congratulations!
    > "LB" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I am a United States Citizen... I came to Canada to visit some
    > > friends... They have been married for 11 years... While visiting I
    > > became pregnant by the husband of my friend... SHe does not know this
    > > yet... But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What happens to
    > > my child if he/she is born in Canada? What happens to my child if
    > > he/she is born in the United States? At this time, can I be deported?
    > > What about after the child is born?

Atul Patel

Low moral standards bring low results....

"HaHa" wrote in message
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    > Stick to the point in original poster's question. Your answer portrays a
    > person with an attitude "holier than thou".
    > Atul Patel wrote:
    > > have you heard of something called "birth control" ?
    > > you obviously don't worry about having a bastard child.
    > >
    > > congratulations!
    > > "LB" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I am a United States Citizen... I came to Canada to visit some
    > > > friends... They have been married for 11 years... While visiting I
    > > > became pregnant by the husband of my friend... SHe does not know this
    > > > yet... But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What happens to
    > > > my child if he/she is born in Canada? What happens to my child if
    > > > he/she is born in the United States? At this time, can I be deported?
    > > > What about after the child is born?

S B

Atul Patel wrote:
    >
    > Low moral standards bring low results....

This only has to do with morality in the small minds of people who
choose to be offended by it. You would complain about others imposing
their morality on you, so do others a favour and stop trying to impose
your morality on others.

Gee

On Wed, 21 May 2003 15:12:09 GMT, S B
wrote:

    >Atul Patel wrote:
    >>
    >> Low moral standards bring low results....
    >This only has to do with morality in the small minds of people who
    >choose to be offended by it. You would complain about others imposing
    >their morality on you, so do others a favour and stop trying to impose
    >your morality on others.



No if it was his sister he would have her stoned to death......Patel,
is most likely a Muslim.

Atul Patel

your ignorance and prejudices aginst Muslims betray you..
Patel is a Hindu name...
you need to study more and tell your sister not to get pregnant by married
men...
wrote in message
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    > On Wed, 21 May 2003 15:12:09 GMT, S B
    > wrote:
    > >Atul Patel wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Low moral standards bring low results....
    > >
    > >This only has to do with morality in the small minds of people who
    > >choose to be offended by it. You would complain about others imposing
    > >their morality on you, so do others a favour and stop trying to impose
    > >your morality on others.
    > No if it was his sister he would have her stoned to death......Patel,
    > is most likely a Muslim.

Rich Wales

"LB" wrote:

> I am a United States citizen... I came to Canada to
> visit some friends... They have been married for 11
> years... While visiting I became pregnant by the
> husband of my friend... She does not know this yet...

Good grief. But whatever . . . .

> But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What
> happens to my child if he/she is born in Canada?
> What happens to my child if he/she is born in the
> United States?

The answers to the above questions will depend on both Canadian
and US law. Each country decides for itself who its citizens
are, based solely on its own laws, and without bothering to
coordinate its laws with the laws of any other country. So it's
possible that your child could be claimed as a citizen by both
Canada and the US -- in other words, he/she might be what is
commonly nicknamed a "dual citizen".

If your child is born in Canada, then he/she will definitely have
Canadian citizenship. Under Canadian law, any child born in
Canada is automatically a Canadian citizen by birth, regardless
of the citizenship or immigration status of the parents (the only
exception being for a child of foreign diplomats or the like --
which presumably does not apply in your case).

Whether your Canadian-born child will also have US citizenship or
not will depend on how much time you have spent in the US in your
life up until your child's birthdate. And, here, we would have
to ask a personal question about you:

Are you, currently, legally married?

If you aren't married, and your child is born in Canada "out of
wedlock", then US law will make him/her a US citizen as long as
you (the child's unwed mother) have spent at least one continuous
full year in the US at some time in your life.

If you are married, then US law will make your Canadian-born
child a US citizen if you have spent at least five years' worth
of time in the US -- including at least two years spent in the
US after you reached age 14. (These complicated rules about how
much time you spent in the US are part of an overall attempt by
the US to prevent the endless proliferation of countless genera-
tions of foreign-born "Americans" with no real ties to the US.)

Now, if your child is born in the US, then he/she will definitely
have US citizenship. US law (similiar in this respect to that of
Canada) confers automatic citizenship by birth to anyone born in
the US, regardless of the parents' citizenship or immigration
status (again, excepting only the children of foreign diplomats).

Whether your child, if born in the US, would also be a Canadian
citizen is a more delicate issue. Under Canadian law, any child
born outside Canada is a Canadian citizen at birth if either of
the child's parents (but not counting an adoptive parent) is a
Canadian.

So, if your child's biological father is legally acknowledged as
the father, it's my understanding that your child will have an
automatic birth claim to Canadian citizenship.

Of course, given the circumstances, I realize it's probably not
at all obvious that your (very-possibly-soon-to-be-ex?-)friend's
husband would be willing to acknowledge his paternity. So while
your child may technically have Canadian citizenship in this
case, in practice it might not be possible to prove it.

The above few paragraphs presuppose that you aren't married.
If you are married, you may find that the relevant laws will
say that your husband is legally presumed to be the father of
any child you bear -- and if your husband isn't a Canadian
citizen, then it's reasonably likely that your child wouldn't
be one either. What might happen if you are married now, but
end up divorced by the time your child is born, I'm not sure.

I might also mention that, if your child does gain both US and
Canadian citizenship at birth, he/she can keep both citizenships
for life (unless a major change happens in either country's laws).
You may have heard people tell you that a "born dual" citizen is
required to choose a single citizenship when he/she grows up, but
this is extremely outdated information; no such law has existed
in either the US or Canada since the late 1970's.

> At this time, can I be deported? What about after the
> child is born?

I assume you mean, can you (a visitor with no permanent status
of any sort in Canada) be deported from Canada -- either now, or
after your child is born?

AFAIK, being pregnant (with a child who would be born in Canada,
and would thus be a Canadian citizen if you were to remain in
Canada and have the child there) is NOT considered a valid reason
under Canadian law to overstay your visitor's status and stay in
Canada indefinitely. If your pregnancy were complicated and it
turned out to be medically inadvisable for you to travel, that
might possibly make a difference -- though, in that case, you'd
better talk to a Canadian immigration lawyer, and also make sure
you have health insurance that will cover your medical bills
(since you almost certainly will NOT be eligible for the regular
health insurance plan in the Canadian province in which you
happen to be right now).

Having a Canadian-born child is also not supposed to be considered
a valid reason for a non-Canadian parent to be allowed to remain
in Canada indefinitely. To be sure, I've read of some cases where
Canadian courts have ruled otherwise (and the government has been
forced to allow a foreign parent to stay in Canada in order to
allow his/her Canadian-born child to stay as well) -- but again,
before thinking about this possibility too much, I'd strongly
suggest talking to a knowledgeable immigration lawyer in Canada.

In any case, if you ask me, a far more pressing issue would be how
you're going to manage to salvage your relationship with these
friends of yours, now that you've seriously violated their trust
and messed up their lives (as well as your own). I wish you lots
of good luck; I think it's fair to say you're going to need it.

Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.richw.org
*NOTE: I've lived in both Canada and the US and have dual citizenship.
*DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer, professional immigration consultant,
or consular officer. My comments are for discussion purposes only and
are not intended to be relied upon as legal or professional advice.

Atul Patel

Thou shalt not commit ADULTERY !
"LB" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I am a United States Citizen... I came to Canada to visit some
    > friends... They have been married for 11 years... While visiting I
    > became pregnant by the husband of my friend... SHe does not know this
    > yet... But what happens to my baby? Is it Canadian? What happens to
    > my child if he/she is born in Canada? What happens to my child if
    > he/she is born in the United States? At this time, can I be deported?
    > What about after the child is born?

Stephen C. Gallagher

"Atul Patel" wrote in message
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    > Thou shalt not commit ADULTERY !

True. But don't also forget "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

Stupid guy

.. What a stupid question.. dont you know your rights as an American citizen....?? What ever is happening to that country.....? SOB !! SOB !!

......... and .......while visiting you just became pregnant........HAHAHAHAH !! R u sure nothing else happend.... You are making me doubt my biology now.....!

Good luck !!

Lb

I just wanted to thank all those who were willing to help me to
understand my rights in this country.. To all those others... WOW...
you really need to find something better to do with your time...

Jake Surfer

get a life, but TROJAN or DUREX next time!

"LB" wrote in message
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    > I just wanted to thank all those who were willing to help me to
    > understand my rights in this country.. To all those others... WOW...
    > you really need to find something better to do with your time...