Nicolas

Hi experts,

Your reply to my question will be very much appreciated.

My spouse has Master's degree BUT has 16 years of full-time study only
(i.e. 11 years of secondary school + 5 years of university). Presently
my wife is studying at the postgraduate department of a university.
Postgraduate study is tree years long. Is it acceptable to start
immigration process after first year of the postgraduate study? In
other words: can this one year of incomplete postgraduate study be
considered as additional year of required full-time study (to reach
sufficient 17 years of study)?

My total score is 74 currently and this question is very important for
me at this time.

I am grateful to you for your help.

Regards, Nicolas.

Andrew Miller

Number of years of completed education program resulting in diploma, degree
or certificate is what counts, so years into the post-graduate program won't
count.

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
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"Nicolas" wrote in message
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    > Hi experts,
    > Your reply to my question will be very much appreciated.
    > My spouse has Master's degree BUT has 16 years of full-time study only
    > (i.e. 11 years of secondary school + 5 years of university). Presently
    > my wife is studying at the postgraduate department of a university.
    > Postgraduate study is tree years long. Is it acceptable to start
    > immigration process after first year of the postgraduate study? In
    > other words: can this one year of incomplete postgraduate study be
    > considered as additional year of required full-time study (to reach
    > sufficient 17 years of study)?
    > My total score is 74 currently and this question is very important for
    > me at this time.
    > I am grateful to you for your help.
    > Regards, Nicolas.

James Metcalfe

The regulations only talk of completed years of education. Not only years
leading to a degree. There fore the completed years of an incomplete degree
will count towards the total number of years of education. Are you certain
that you wife has a masters. Does it say so on her diploma???


Jim Metcalfe, Consultant and former visa officer





"Nicolas" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi experts,
    > Your reply to my question will be very much appreciated.
    > My spouse has Master's degree BUT has 16 years of full-time study only
    > (i.e. 11 years of secondary school + 5 years of university). Presently
    > my wife is studying at the postgraduate department of a university.
    > Postgraduate study is tree years long. Is it acceptable to start
    > immigration process after first year of the postgraduate study? In
    > other words: can this one year of incomplete postgraduate study be
    > considered as additional year of required full-time study (to reach
    > sufficient 17 years of study)?
    > My total score is 74 currently and this question is very important for
    > me at this time.
    > I am grateful to you for your help.
    > Regards, Nicolas.

Andrew Miller

James, I respectfully disagree with your comment. Regulations say exactly
the following:

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78(2)(f) 25 points for a university educational credential at the master's
or doctoral level and a total of at least 17 years of completed full-time or
full-time equivalent studies.
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The above clearly says about ***years of completed ... studies*** and not
about "completed years of education".

Please read the definition in the same section:

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78. (1) The definitions in this subsection apply in this section.

"full-time" « temps plein »

"full-time" means, in relation to a program of study leading to an
educational credential, at least 15 hours of instruction per week during the
academic year, including any period of training in the workplace that forms
part of the course of instruction. (temps plein)

"full-time equivalent" « équivalent temps plein »

"full-time equivalent" means, in respect of part-time or accelerated
studies, the period that would have been required to complete those studies
on a full-time basis. (équivalent temps plein)
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It clearly says ***program of study leading to an educational credential***.


--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"James Metcalfe" wrote in message
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    > The regulations only talk of completed years of education. Not only years
    > leading to a degree. There fore the completed years of an incomplete
degree
    > will count towards the total number of years of education. Are you certain
    > that you wife has a masters. Does it say so on her diploma???
    > Jim Metcalfe, Consultant and former visa officer
    > "Nicolas" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi experts,
    > >
    > > Your reply to my question will be very much appreciated.
    > >
    > > My spouse has Master's degree BUT has 16 years of full-time study only
    > > (i.e. 11 years of secondary school + 5 years of university). Presently
    > > my wife is studying at the postgraduate department of a university.
    > > Postgraduate study is tree years long. Is it acceptable to start
    > > immigration process after first year of the postgraduate study? In
    > > other words: can this one year of incomplete postgraduate study be
    > > considered as additional year of required full-time study (to reach
    > > sufficient 17 years of study)?
    > >
    > > My total score is 74 currently and this question is very important for
    > > me at this time.
    > >
    > > I am grateful to you for your help.
    > >
    > > Regards, Nicolas.

James Metcalfe

You have a right to disagree but I have a right to my views as well. A year
of education is counted regardless if it is one of 13 to complete high
school in Ontario (now twelve) or one of ten normally found in the Russian
system or one of 3 in an incompleted program for say a Phd. I am merely
following the guidelines of the manual OP 6 11.2. Note particularly that
in Example 2, it states .... if further study is completed (not a further
credential , my addition ) and documentation presented ..........
Credentials and years a of study are examined separately. A person who
has completed the course work , say three years towards a Phd and who does
not present his disertation may not receive points for the Phd but may still
recieve points if needed for the three years of completed course work. That
is our expereince to date.

Jim Metcafe


"Nicolas" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi experts,
    > Your reply to my question will be very much appreciated.
    > My spouse has Master's degree BUT has 16 years of full-time study only
    > (i.e. 11 years of secondary school + 5 years of university). Presently
    > my wife is studying at the postgraduate department of a university.
    > Postgraduate study is tree years long. Is it acceptable to start
    > immigration process after first year of the postgraduate study? In
    > other words: can this one year of incomplete postgraduate study be
    > considered as additional year of required full-time study (to reach
    > sufficient 17 years of study)?
    > My total score is 74 currently and this question is very important for
    > me at this time.
    > I am grateful to you for your help.
    > Regards, Nicolas.