Post natal depression
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Post natal depression
Hi there,
We will hopefully receive medical requests in a short while. My wife is extremely anxious (which in itself is raising her BP!) about this, as her BP is quite high at the moment (even though she is on some fairly mild medication).
She gave birth to our daughter just over four months ago and feels that in part her HBP is due to post natal depression (although this is her diagnosis not a doctors). We feel that we can gather a reasonable amount of evidence to show that her heart is in good order (she had a full cardio during pregnancy) and her kidneys are fine as she had regular tests (and is in fact due to have one more on Monday). If the BP is measured as high would it be advisable to mention post natal depression or could this cause us more issues?
Many thanks,
James.
We will hopefully receive medical requests in a short while. My wife is extremely anxious (which in itself is raising her BP!) about this, as her BP is quite high at the moment (even though she is on some fairly mild medication).
She gave birth to our daughter just over four months ago and feels that in part her HBP is due to post natal depression (although this is her diagnosis not a doctors). We feel that we can gather a reasonable amount of evidence to show that her heart is in good order (she had a full cardio during pregnancy) and her kidneys are fine as she had regular tests (and is in fact due to have one more on Monday). If the BP is measured as high would it be advisable to mention post natal depression or could this cause us more issues?
Many thanks,
James.
Last edited by jwsadler; Oct 2nd 2008 at 8:04 am.
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Re: Post natal depression
I know immigrating is important to you, but I would prioritize your wife's health over the medicals. Postpartum depression can be serious and is treatable. Same with high BP (depending on how high) and she's already on medication for it any way so it's not like it would be a new thing to appear on the medicals. Why would your wife invent postpartum depression as an explanation unless she was actually concerned about how she is doing? Seems like an odd thing to say, unless you want it addressed.
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Re: Post natal depression
I know immigrating is important to you, but I would prioritize your wife's health over the medicals. Postpartum depression can be serious and is treatable. Same with high BP (depending on how high) and she's already on medication for it any way so it's not like it would be a new thing to appear on the medicals. Why would your wife invent postpartum depression as an explanation unless she was actually concerned about how she is doing? Seems like an odd thing to say, unless you want it addressed.
James.
Last edited by jwsadler; Oct 2nd 2008 at 12:59 pm.
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Re: Post natal depression
Remember that the medical is largely a physical examination. So unless you declare it then post natal depression might not be obvious during the examination. But I also agree with the above poster that getting this treated and feeling well and happy would have to be the most important thing of all and not the immigration medical.
Also remeber that you arent rejected for having any medical condition at all. There are only 2 reasons you would be rejected:
1) you are a danger to public health (i.e. you have a dangerous contagious desease)
2) you will place excessive demand on the health system
Clearly post natal depression doesnt fit into 1). I'm not a doctor so I cant be certain it will/wont cause excessive demand. The test is whether the condition is likely to cost more to treat per year than the average per-capita health cost (currently about $5k). So if it was something that required prescribed medication and not much more I dont think you would come anywhere near to there being an excessive demand issue.
Also remeber that you arent rejected for having any medical condition at all. There are only 2 reasons you would be rejected:
1) you are a danger to public health (i.e. you have a dangerous contagious desease)
2) you will place excessive demand on the health system
Clearly post natal depression doesnt fit into 1). I'm not a doctor so I cant be certain it will/wont cause excessive demand. The test is whether the condition is likely to cost more to treat per year than the average per-capita health cost (currently about $5k). So if it was something that required prescribed medication and not much more I dont think you would come anywhere near to there being an excessive demand issue.
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Re: Post natal depression
Remember that the medical is largely a physical examination. So unless you declare it then post natal depression might not be obvious during the examination. But I also agree with the above poster that getting this treated and feeling well and happy would have to be the most important thing of all and not the immigration medical.
Also remeber that you arent rejected for having any medical condition at all. There are only 2 reasons you would be rejected:
1) you are a danger to public health (i.e. you have a dangerous contagious desease)
2) you will place excessive demand on the health system
Clearly post natal depression doesnt fit into 1). I'm not a doctor so I cant be certain it will/wont cause excessive demand. The test is whether the condition is likely to cost more to treat per year than the average per-capita health cost (currently about $5k). So if it was something that required prescribed medication and not much more I dont think you would come anywhere near to there being an excessive demand issue.
Also remeber that you arent rejected for having any medical condition at all. There are only 2 reasons you would be rejected:
1) you are a danger to public health (i.e. you have a dangerous contagious desease)
2) you will place excessive demand on the health system
Clearly post natal depression doesnt fit into 1). I'm not a doctor so I cant be certain it will/wont cause excessive demand. The test is whether the condition is likely to cost more to treat per year than the average per-capita health cost (currently about $5k). So if it was something that required prescribed medication and not much more I dont think you would come anywhere near to there being an excessive demand issue.
I understand where you are coming from. And I think you have answered my question - which was: what should we voluntarily tell the doctor at the medical. Even though my original post may be less than clear can I please say that a) we are taking this very seriously, but that at present my wife is more concerned about the HBP and 2) I never in anyway meant to suggest that this was invented.
Many thanks,
James.
Last edited by jwsadler; Oct 2nd 2008 at 1:57 pm. Reason: typo
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Re: Post natal depression
If she thinks she might have post natal depression, she should go and discuss it with her doctor, and if necessary get it treated (they don't always just hand out the antidepressants, sometimes just talking to someone can help). She could also mention her concerns about her bloodpressure at the same time, that can be checked and if necessary treated too.
Neither PND or well controlled high blood pressure would stop you emigrating - I don't have a blood pressure problem, but I did have PND, it didn't stop me.
And believe me, if she does have PND, leaving it will only make things seem worse.... persuade her to go and talk to her GP because she probably won't start to feel better until she does.
Neither PND or well controlled high blood pressure would stop you emigrating - I don't have a blood pressure problem, but I did have PND, it didn't stop me.
And believe me, if she does have PND, leaving it will only make things seem worse.... persuade her to go and talk to her GP because she probably won't start to feel better until she does.
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Re: Post natal depression
If she thinks she might have post natal depression, she should go and discuss it with her doctor, and if necessary get it treated (they don't always just hand out the antidepressants, sometimes just talking to someone can help). She could also mention her concerns about her bloodpressure at the same time, that can be checked and if necessary treated too.
Neither PND or well controlled high blood pressure would stop you emigrating - I don't have a blood pressure problem, but I did have PND, it didn't stop me.
And believe me, if she does have PND, leaving it will only make things seem worse.... persuade her to go and talk to her GP because she probably won't start to feel better until she does.
Neither PND or well controlled high blood pressure would stop you emigrating - I don't have a blood pressure problem, but I did have PND, it didn't stop me.
And believe me, if she does have PND, leaving it will only make things seem worse.... persuade her to go and talk to her GP because she probably won't start to feel better until she does.
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Re: Post natal depression
Hi everyone
I am James' other half. Thank you very much for all your very kind comments. I am going to the doctors on Monday to have BP checked and to discuss the post-natal depresssion. I've recently read that having depression can cause a spike in your BP, which I guess isn't really surprising. Thank you again!
I am James' other half. Thank you very much for all your very kind comments. I am going to the doctors on Monday to have BP checked and to discuss the post-natal depresssion. I've recently read that having depression can cause a spike in your BP, which I guess isn't really surprising. Thank you again!
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Re: Post natal depression
Hi everyone
I am James' other half. Thank you very much for all your very kind comments. I am going to the doctors on Monday to have BP checked and to discuss the post-natal depresssion. I've recently read that having depression can cause a spike in your BP, which I guess isn't really surprising. Thank you again!
I am James' other half. Thank you very much for all your very kind comments. I am going to the doctors on Monday to have BP checked and to discuss the post-natal depresssion. I've recently read that having depression can cause a spike in your BP, which I guess isn't really surprising. Thank you again!
I am sure the Dr will be able to do something to help you out, even if it is recommending parent/toddler groups for you to go to (mine put me forward for free sessions at the council run gym - exercise is great for depression apparently, and being able to put the baby in a creche and have a little bit of "me" time really helped!)
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Re: Post natal depression
Hi everyone
I am James' other half. Thank you very much for all your very kind comments. I am going to the doctors on Monday to have BP checked and to discuss the post-natal depresssion. I've recently read that having depression can cause a spike in your BP, which I guess isn't really surprising. Thank you again!
I am James' other half. Thank you very much for all your very kind comments. I am going to the doctors on Monday to have BP checked and to discuss the post-natal depresssion. I've recently read that having depression can cause a spike in your BP, which I guess isn't really surprising. Thank you again!
You be easy on yourself - Postnatal depression SUCKS bigtime.
I am sure the Dr will be able to do something to help you out, even if it is recommending parent/toddler groups for you to go to (mine put me forward for free sessions at the council run gym - exercise is great for depression apparently, and being able to put the baby in a creche and have a little bit of "me" time really helped!)
I am sure the Dr will be able to do something to help you out, even if it is recommending parent/toddler groups for you to go to (mine put me forward for free sessions at the council run gym - exercise is great for depression apparently, and being able to put the baby in a creche and have a little bit of "me" time really helped!)
Totally agree, once I got my confidence and started taking daughter to mum & toddler groups I made more friends and realised I wasn't alone, PND is more common than you think.