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Mr.Humphires please help on Language Proficiency questions

Mr.Humphires please help on Language Proficiency questions

Old Jan 17th 2003, 5:41 pm
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Bab
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Default Mr.Humphires please help on Language Proficiency questions

Hi Mr.Humphires
I am planning on applying for Skilled Permanent residency to Canada.
I have the following the questions with regards to the Language
Proficiency documentation. Could you please answer it?

Proficiency in English:
1. I took my MS in US and had to take TOEFL to qualify for it. Also I
had all my childhood and higher education in English. I also have
worked for 4 years with English as the medium of Communication. Could
I submit a LETTER STATING MY PROFICIENCY IN ENGLISH with TOEFL as an
addedum? If so what are the THINGS THE LETTER SHOULD EMPHASIZE to
prove the proficiency.
2.Is IETS a must even if above 1) holds true?
Proficiency in French:
3. Will 1 crash courses in French + document stating the 1 crash
courses help me get BASIC PROFICIENCY in French?
4. Is TFS a must even if above 3) holds true?

Thanks a lot for your kind reply
Rob
 
Old Jan 17th 2003, 6:19 pm
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Jim Humphries
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Default Re: Mr.Humphires please help on Language Proficiency questions

If English is not the official language of your country then the only safe
way is to take the IELTS. It is very hard to imagine gaining any points
from crash courses in French. To get any points you would have to be fairly
adept in all areas - speaking, reading, writing, and oral comprehension. To
get full marks you would ahve to approach mother tongue skills.

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"bab" wrote in message
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    > Hi Mr.Humphires
    > I am planning on applying for Skilled Permanent residency to Canada.
    > I have the following the questions with regards to the Language
    > Proficiency documentation. Could you please answer it?
    > Proficiency in English:
    > 1. I took my MS in US and had to take TOEFL to qualify for it. Also I
    > had all my childhood and higher education in English. I also have
    > worked for 4 years with English as the medium of Communication. Could
    > I submit a LETTER STATING MY PROFICIENCY IN ENGLISH with TOEFL as an
    > addedum? If so what are the THINGS THE LETTER SHOULD EMPHASIZE to
    > prove the proficiency.
    > 2.Is IETS a must even if above 1) holds true?
    > Proficiency in French:
    > 3. Will 1 crash courses in French + document stating the 1 crash
    > courses help me get BASIC PROFICIENCY in French?
    > 4. Is TFS a must even if above 3) holds true?
    > Thanks a lot for your kind reply
    > Rob
 
Old Jan 17th 2003, 6:48 pm
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Andrew Miller
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Default Re: Mr.Humphires please help on Language Proficiency questions

You may submit substitute evidence of English proficiency if you gained your
education with English as a medium, you live and work in English environment
and use English in your daily life. But such evidence will be rather
subjectively assessed by processing officer against Canadian Languages
Benchmark (over 200 pages manual) and if officer feels that it doesn't prove
high proficiency he or she will award you the number of points accordingly
to such assessment - so, it is your life and if you want to gamble with it
be my guest...

As for French - if you haven't obtained education with French as a medium
and you don't work and live in French language environment then no
substitute evidence will be even considered. You must provide TEF test
results with high score on level 3 to get 2 points for basic French. And
believe me - no crash course can bring you to such level regardless how
smart genius you are...

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Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
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"bab" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Mr.Humphires
    > I am planning on applying for Skilled Permanent residency to Canada.
    > I have the following the questions with regards to the Language
    > Proficiency documentation. Could you please answer it?
    > Proficiency in English:
    > 1. I took my MS in US and had to take TOEFL to qualify for it. Also I
    > had all my childhood and higher education in English. I also have
    > worked for 4 years with English as the medium of Communication. Could
    > I submit a LETTER STATING MY PROFICIENCY IN ENGLISH with TOEFL as an
    > addedum? If so what are the THINGS THE LETTER SHOULD EMPHASIZE to
    > prove the proficiency.
    > 2.Is IETS a must even if above 1) holds true?
    > Proficiency in French:
    > 3. Will 1 crash courses in French + document stating the 1 crash
    > courses help me get BASIC PROFICIENCY in French?
    > 4. Is TFS a must even if above 3) holds true?
    > Thanks a lot for your kind reply
    > Rob
 

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